Walmart employee trampled..have any of you experienced this today?

@dragon54u (31635)
United States
November 28, 2008 4:33pm CST
Or something like it? This is unbelievable, like something you read in a horror book! "A Wal-Mart employee in suburban New York was trampled to death by a crush of shoppers who tore down the front doors and thronged into the store early Friday morning, turning the annual rite of post-Thanksgiving bargain hunting into a Hobbesian frenzy." They even pushed and jostled rescue workers trying to give the man CPR and parents had to grab their kids (why would someone have a kid out at that hour?!) to keep the crowd from trampling them. This is horrible. How can people behave this way? I went out to drive around today because I'd never been out on Black Friday and the traffic was awful, there were no parking spots anywhere and even the groceries were crowded. How was shopping for you today, if you went?
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• United States
29 Nov 08
It was nothing but madness let me tell you. People are rediculous. People on black Friday are willing to kill each other over a stupid sale. I thought we were humans not animals!
@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
Animals don't kill each other for no reason. I think the word is savages. Animals always have a reason for their behavior unless they are ill with rabies or something. Savages are what these people are.
@jewilim (495)
• Philippines
29 Nov 08
Why did even Walmart allow people to cause a stampede. Why? What is in Walmart that would cause people to stampede that way? Was it because they had a sale? I guess there are really times when people loose their sense on discipline. Why do people always become too desperate of something. I think it was the fault of the store and also the customers. Walmart should have take extra precaution especially if there is a bargain and they should have added more security personnel to ensure proper order. I think Walmart has already anticipated that increase in their customers and they should have added more security measure. I really dont get it why people could sometimes really become so despearate. Was it because of the current economic condition that people would really become desperate to save more? I guess there are really time when we could not predict people. As what other said "SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY UNPREDICTABLE".
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
The apparently had barricades up but the crowd tore them down. They also had extra security but the security couldn't do anything. They called the cops but the police had to leave the scene for another store that had gotten out of control. Shortly after that the crowd ripped the doors off and stampeded into the store. Walmart did what they thought would control the crowd. They just weren't aware that some people are worse than animals--animals stampede out of fear, to escape danger. People stampede because of greed. So calling them animals is an insult to the animal kingdom.
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@Cerego (117)
• United States
29 Nov 08
That's terrible! and very sad. Two years ago I went to Wal-Mart on black friday. I got to the store at 4:45am ( it opened at 5). and people were lined up at the door. over 100 people easy. And when the doors opened it was just a crazy rush, I couldn't believe it. I fell bad for that person, my prayers go out to their family.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I glad so many of us are sending prayers their way, they will certainly need them. Losing someone is bad enough but losing them this way has to be the worst. It's so senseless and so preventable. The store had extra security, barricades, etc. but the crowds overcame them. Police had been called but were called away to go to Circuit City where it was getting very ugly.
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@Ithink (10492)
• United States
29 Nov 08
This makes me sick, that people could put material things before a life. Even if he had only been injured that would have been bad enough. I found and read the story and the fact that people had the nerve to get mad and yell when asked to leave when they closed the store is so sick! I really hope the ones that did this and the ones that just stepped over him have a great holiday knowing that they killed someone for a few bucks. What are some people thinking?? I feel sorry for the ones that tried so hard to get to him to help him too. They had to feel helpless and will probably have nightmares of this for a long time to come. Where it is the ones that pushed and shoved all for a good deal that Im hoping has the nightmares.
@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I didn't know there was trouble when the store closed, that's awful. We have become such a consumer society and put such emphasis on material goods that this was bound to happen, or something like it. People define themselves by their material goods, not their characters. We've lost something in this country that I hope we can get back but we've let it happen. The media tell us we're not cool if we don't have this dress or that phone or drive that kind of car and we believe them. It's pathetic. It's time for this nation to take a good hard look at itself.
@Ithink (10492)
• United States
30 Nov 08
I totally agree with you there.
@ladybug565 (2217)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I think that is just horrible! I dont shop on black friday and that is exactly why. people can be animals to save money, it is just not worth it! have a good day.
@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
This is the first time I ever went out on Black Friday and it is definitely the last! It's just crazy and yes, people can behave like animals--one difference though, animals stampede because of fear while humans do it for greed.
• United States
29 Nov 08
that is so true. thanks. I worke a black friday about 5 years ago but it has gotten alot worse since then.
• United States
28 Nov 08
I think the crowd that we were in today was one of the better crowds that we've been in. We went shopping at a Walmart and I didn't get pushed, or shoved and people weren't madly grabbing things like they have in year's past. People were actually pretty civil. People were being nice and actually helping out people out. I did experience one woman that was pretty snobby and didn't care for anyone else except for a woman that I was helping out that had her baby with her. That's not uncommon for some people though so I'm not that surprised that one person had to ruin the whole thing. There was plenty of time to everything that we wanted. They still had just about everything left so it really wasn't a bad time today. Not for us anyway.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I'm glad you had a good experience! I know that things like what I read about don't happen everywhere, it's just shocking to me. I'm happy you had a nice shopping trip! Makes me feel a little better.
• United States
29 Nov 08
It certainly is nice hearing good stories for once. I mean, you have that poor worker that was trampled at Walmart and then the two people that were shot and killed at a Toys R Us in California. It's just terrible. It's not the end of the world if you don't get what you are looking for. It really isn't.
• Canada
28 Nov 08
I've never been out on black friday or shopping for that matter. I think what happened is horrible and I hope those people feel very ashamed while they go up to the register to get their gift and ask themselves.. was this purchase really worth that poor persons life? Such a shame in what our society has turned into, so despicable and unbelievable. Yet I can say that it doesn't surprise me I guess that people are so self absorb in what they need that they dont' take the time to help anyone up.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
When you get a crowd so worked up like that, they go crazy. I doubt they were even aware of the poor man, they were in such a frenzy--they tore off the doors! That poor man's family will be in my prayers. Things like this shouldn't ever happen but it comes from greed and the human race will always be greedy.
@GreenMoo (11842)
7 Dec 08
So Black Friday is a day where goods are reduced after Thankgiving? I was just wondering this after I saw the term in another discussion. I think this story just shows how mad society has become. How can shopping become so important to people that it puts others' well being at risk? I think if there was a Black Friday here it's the sort of event I'd be avoiding like the plague! I hate shopping at the best of times & people fighting to get into a shop sounds like my idea of hell.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
8 Dec 08
It really depends on the area you're in. A big city will see things like this happen more often than smaller places. I'm don't usually enjoy shopping, either, I'm a decide what I want and then go get it kind of person. We've really become such a "stuff" society, thinking it will make us happy, that we've lost all our reason. Look at how much debt the average American is in--we save one cent out of every dollar we make, how insane is that? No wonder the banks are broke and the economy is upside down. I think this period of stress and financial disaster will teach a lot of people to value the important things in life instead of "stuff". Then maybe something as despicable as this poor employee losing his life won't happen anymore. Let's hope so.
@cupkitties (7599)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I've never heard of black friday before until a few days ago. After reading this stuff I will never be attending. I hope those people are proud of themselves.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I doubt they care. Even the ones who initially knocked the poor man down are probably not aware that they did anything, so great was their frenzy-like a school of piranha.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Nov 08
Never been out on a Black Friday, but then I am not American. But I would not want to go to get a bargain since I happen to know most of the bargains are really not introductory offers but clearing out the old stuff. It sounds all like madness to me. Why can't they wait until closer to Christmas and not limit it to just one day or why not order over the internet? That sounds a whole lot safer.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
It's evolved from tradition, and the retailers have come to count on that one day as an indication of how well their sales will do. That day also puts many of the large chains "in the black" for the first time all year, taking them into profits instead of losses. Christmas is entirely too commercial and now that commercialism is indirectly responsible for holiday deaths. What a horrible association with such a holy season.
@fasttalker (2797)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I shop on Black Firday every year and I have a lot of fun doing it. This is outrageous that people have chosen to conduct themselves this way. Although I enjoy it I think they need to come up with better ways of controlling it or eliminating it. This is crazy that people would do such a thing. The bargains are not that great I just like the fun of it!
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I think I would enjoy it, too, if not for the huge crowds! There were just SO many people when I drove by the mall yesterday, it seems as if people could barely move. That isn't fun, to me. Maybe if there were a maximum number allowed in and when one came out another could go in? I doubt it would work, though, there would be riots. I remember when Christmas shopping was fun.
• United States
29 Nov 08
I shop every year on Black Friday. I was in line at ToysRUs at 4:00am this year. I have never seen anything like this story here where I am from. Only people getting arrested for shoplifting. And many people bring their kids out at that hour to shop which I think is awful. Sad story.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I think they should leave their children at home, it's not fair to roust them out of bed so early and drag them out into the cold, probably with no breakfast.
@tammytwo (4303)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I went out at 5 am to our local Wal-MArt and I believe people were ruder than ever this year. I have been shopping for the past three years on Black Friday and never experienced the rudeness that I did today. Just because the economy is bad doesn't give people the right to act so rude.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I don't think they know what else to do besides be rude, they're so frustrated and worried. But why are people spending money right now when they may need it for food in a few weeks or a month, maybe they'll be losing their job? I think that's why they're rude, they don't know how to handle this situation. Or maybe they're just jerks anyway, you never know. I'll never even drive around to look at the activity anymore. It was really insane.
@di1159 (1580)
• United States
29 Nov 08
We went out to a mall Thanksgiving night which opened at 12:00 a.m. I figured it wouldn't be as crowded as the early morning specials. I was wrong. Sawgrass Mills is an outlet mall and is one of the larger malls in the South Florida area. To get off the turnpike exit there was a 2 mile line of cars just to get to the exit. We got past that, but inside the mall, it was impossible to walk. There was wall to wall people pushing and shoving, if you did manage to get into a store and want to buy something, there was like 1 clerk and a line which snaked throughout the store. Needless to say, I left. I came home and started ordering presents online. I'll wait for the delivery and most places had free or reduced shipping. I'll never do the Black Friday thing again.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I wonder why people do that? That must have been why I saw people standing outside one store with unbagged stuff and there were guards with them. No way would I do that, no matter how much money I would save! I think we should find a way to take the emphasis off presents at Christmas. But business would never put up with it.
@marcialoyd (1174)
• United States
29 Nov 08
That poor guys family. I feel awful for them. I believe that something should be done to outlaw these sales that create such a frenzy every year. Just about every year you hear of people getting hurt if not killed. It is not worth it. I refuse to go out into that mob myself. I was still home tucked away in bed.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I went out of curiosity and I'm glad I didn't go in any stores. I didn't even leave the house till 11am! I don't know what we could do about it. The stores won't stop it, they depend on this day too much. I feel bad for that man's family, and what a horrible way to die. They will be in my prayers tonight.
@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I did not go, but have other years and people just are not nice. You would think they are after the last bit of food to feed their families. I go out and try to find things, if I get them fine, if I don't fine.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
Even though I didn't shop, I saw the crowds and the traffic and I don't think I'll ever shop the day after Thanksgiving! I thought it was time to change my routine but I'll keep my Friday quiet from now on. You have a good attitude, more people should feel that way!
@grammasnook (1877)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I have heard stories like this before and it is outrageous that people would just stampede a person. No deal is worth a life. I believe that these types of sales should be outlawed and not permitted. I went one year and the woman behind me grabbed something out of my hand, I looked at her and said well if you want it that bed then take it. I watched people get into a fist fight. The ignorance is unbelievable. Everyone of those shoppers are as guilty as the next. How can people just ignore someone on the floor? Like I said this should be stopped no more black friday events! They would be smart to just send out a regular flyer and suprise the public with the black friday specials.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I agree with that, but the stores won't stop. They make 20-40% of their sales on that one day alone and safety and human life don't count with them.
@Chevee (5915)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I tried to tell them this in another discussion I started on The After Thanksgiving Day sale. Some of the responders said they had never heard of this, fighting pushing and shoving. I told them no way was I getting out in that mess of shoppers and I didn't.
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@dragon54u (31635)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I went out but didn't go to any stores once I saw how huge the crowds were! I went to the grocery and even it was crowded. This was my first-and my last-time I go out on the day after Thanksgiving. Isn't it ironic that we give thanks and the day after that we go crazy with greed?