Do You Believe In God?

@Random28 (158)
December 9, 2008 11:27am CST
Is God Real? And what evidence have we got that he is/ isnt?
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• Thailand
10 Dec 08
What god do you have in mind? Do I need a god to explain the existence of this universe? No, there are good scientific explanations that are far more valid than old myths. The world is full of god stories but none seem to have any more reality than the next. Is god real? I don't know nor do I see any way to answer the question so it comes down to the question of; Why bother?
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@santuccie (3377)
• United States
17 Dec 08
I agree with you when you say scientific explanations are more valid than the old myths, but there are questions they do not answer. One I could think of right offhand deals with mutation. While we can see adaptation here and there (e.g. bears, horses, snakes, women), we can also see many instances where evolution suddenly leaps forward, in the "explosion of one group at the expense of another." When something like this happens, it helps to observe how much information has changed, and then consider the probability. Mutative failure is infinitely more likely than mutative success (It doesn't matter how many parallel universes you have; the odds are not simply divided up amongst them. Mutation has not simply happened one time here; it has happened over and over again.). Even though it only makes sense that natural selection will quickly eliminate the "freaks," there is no explanation why we find so few of them in the fossil record, as these individuals could feasibly outnumber entire populations. Here is an article I saved awhile back, just in case the archives changed. You don't have to read the whole thing, just the part where the evolutionist (I am an evolutionist) "appears" to be stumped: http://www.mediafire.com/?z4hioyqlftg There are 3.1 billion letters in the human genome. But more significantly, the words formed by these letters are not jumbled; they actually follow a semantic pattern! And while a shrinking majority of this information (once thought to be more than 97%, now considered by some to be as low as 85%) is often called "junk DNA," biochemists are finding out that it appears to be a sort of reference for proofreading. As it were, an engine has evolved within DNA to correct mutative errors. In the cells of most organisms, including humans, both the active information and the so-called "junk DNA" are contained in the same nucleolus. But in some others, there are actually two separate nucleoli; one active, and the other ROM (Read-Only Memory). When mutation occurs, and prior to cell division, the original information in the active nucleolus is verified against that in the ROM nucleolus. That's pretty fancy. Until I am shown otherwise, I must plainly say that every "will" I have traced yet originated from a conscience. Now you can retort with the familiar "God of the gaps" bit, but I fail to see it that way. I call it "God of purpose," or "God of causation." Just as Darwinian evolutionists assume until further discovery that this universe and the life therein were created by chance acting on matter, I assume until further discovery that this universe, the life therein, and the peculiarities I and some others have seen are effected by a "superior reasoning power." Others concede that the "Quite by chance" theory is obsolete, and turn to Spinoza's God in order to avoid too much responsibility. "Is god real? I don't know nor do I see any way to answer the question so it comes down to the question of; Why bother?" I've answered this for you before...gratitude. P.S.: Thank you for saying, "I don't know." Honesty is the best policy.
@santuccie (3377)
• United States
17 Dec 08
BTW, I watched that video, and left another comment in your thread: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1791007.aspx
@pmspratik (202)
• Nepal
9 Dec 08
God is real. I do believe in God even if the world nowadays doubt it. Evidence? Well just look at the world today, the nature, the mountains, the flowers, the complex texture of even the single cellular organisms are so much fascinating. Do you think that all of this is just here by chance? You eat food everyday. How good and testy it feels to eat food. Specially the fruits, they are good while you look at it and are sweet and juicy filled with the necessary things your body need to keep you healthy. Do you think the trees just bear those fruits for nothing? And there are many choices for food as well. Have you also seen the rainbows? Don't you feel that its wonderful art of God? Do you really think you are satisfied with a simple evolution theory? That theory explains that we origin from a single cellular organism. Scientists have failed to create even a single living cell. In fact water doesn't even support formation of living cells by chance. What do you say about we origin from monkeys? Do you really think that evolution is the answer to everything? are there any fossils found of those animals which were in the stage of evolution? Well. The answer is no. Everything in this world is created very carefully and are very complex in nature. Each one of them has their own role. And they are very pleasant things to look at. Our environment is the art of God. Everything that God has made are perfect. Simply a chance cannot create all these wonderful things. That why God Does Exist.
@sataness (321)
10 Dec 08
Almost like looking for a reason for life and ending up with God. That's it. Must be him. No other solution. Isnt it ironic that there truely is no evidence of God? Nature has travelled through evolution right back to when our land was one island in the middle of a sea. Fact. To suggest God created such things over a period of time suggests he interferes with his creation, to say he interferes in his creation leads to the idea that he allows and created suffering in the world as much as he created the 'goodness'. Why God? If God is believed to be an invisible almighty substance rather than man, why do we end with him? Why is there no discussion on why does religious questions finish with God? Who created God? It goes against nature to say he just came into existance as much as your idea that the universe is not random either. Why do we not end with time? If you can say God created the universe then it's possible that time is the being that created everything, automatically people are repulsed by this idea... but is itn't it just as logical and illogical as the belief in a God? I suggest that if you believe in a God and are supporting it with evidence of creation that you look towards the Ancient Greeks idea of the demiurge, the idea of a supreme being creating the universe and then disappearing. When your not considering the complexities that surround God it's hard to say God made everything. Our beliefs of God today originate from man's word, in a period of time where not only science was low, but human rights, equality were absent and myths originated from. It was essentially created by more prominant figures of religion that used ancient greek teachings of God and manipulated their words. While it's romantic and idealistic to believe that God is perfection and created perfection, it's naive not to consider the outer areas surrounding the mystery of God.
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• India
10 Dec 08
There are lot of people who believe in evolution and yet believe in God. And can be a Muslim or a Christian or an atheist and believe in evolution. I don't see why evolutionary biology is a problem for religion.
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@Frederick42 (2018)
• Canada
10 Dec 08
God is a matter of faith. It is no use trying to find any proof regarding proof, because there is no proof. But it always surprises me that people argue about God, but arguments are only arguments. You cannot prove anything through arguments. The Bible defines God. One who reads the Bible properly will get an idea of God.
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• United States
12 Dec 08
To rely on the bible as an idea of god is scary. God put a tree in a garden and tell you not to eat it. why put it there in the first place. what was the purpose? God tell abramham to kill his son what was the purpose? So call god created us to tell us what not to do and put everything there he don't want us to have and for what? God has the power to creat us, destroy the world, save one family and two of every animal, destroy one city(sodom and gormorah) and continue to let the other bad things go on. God tests our love for him in suffering but still have to die. God would so call kill his own son and not come himself to save the world. Will you sent you child to die. So call god sent so many to die and fight among each other but created a world and have not done anything to prove his exist and explain his reasoning. I don't believe in god I know there a creator because we all our here. but to worship a god and argue with people about whose god responsible(because of the many religions) does not do anything to change the world.
• India
10 Dec 08
Depends on the definition of God. I personally do not believe in the kind of God atheists do not believe. But I believe in some other kind of God which is believed by so many other people. So for me it depends on definition.
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9 Dec 08
I don't believe in God - well, not in the way you mean, anyway! There is no proof either way, I'm afraid: the existence or non-existence of God is not something that can be empirically proved. There's absolutely huuuuuuuge amounts of circumstantial evidence of a higher power, of course, but it isn't actually proof. That's why all religions need that leap of faith to believe in something we can't see. Not a lot of the world makes sense without some kind of belief, after all!
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