Shroud of Turin.
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
India
December 10, 2008 5:51am CST
As Christmas is near, a question for my Christian friends, how many of you believe that the Shroud of Turin, in Italy, is original or it is a thirteenth century fake as some scientists claim. I know that the Catholic Church believes it as an original linen which covered Jesus Christ, and the blood on the cloth belongs to Jesus Christ, what do you think and what is your response?
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@Isabellas2007 (192)
• United States
10 Dec 08
I believe that the Shroud of Turin is a really from Jesus Christ time. If you think about how the scientist are always trying to disprove even the notion that God exists then you can see that this is anotehr attempt of theres to dispell peoples belief in God. I just feel sorry for them come time of judgement.
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
10 Dec 08
What possible difference could it make? I'm not a believer, but as I understand religion, it is the symbol that is important. Whether Christ even existed is unimportant as long as the idea of Christ as God's sacrifice still lives.
Lash
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@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response grandpa lash, sorry for the delay in answering.You are quite right, it is the symbol which is important, and as a Hindu I have to agree because for us also it is the symbol which carries a lot of weight.
@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
10 Dec 08
Which scientists claim that? Since christianity does not stand or fall on the authenticity of the Shoud of Turin there is no point defending it if it's a fake. And so I would be surprised if the Church is not willing to give it up even though it's proven to be a fake. But I wonder if scientists have really proven it to be a fake. And I also wonder if scientists are trying hard to disprove it so that they can destroy Christianity. But if that's the case they would be disappointed cos even if Shroud of Turin is a fake it does not destroy Christianity.
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response headhunter525, regarding the tests, carbon dating has been done on the shroud and it has been proved , that it was a garment of 13th Century, I do not think the scientists are trying hard to disprove it, because if I am right most of the tests were done by Christian scientists and it had the approval of the vatican, but when there was a difference of opinion between the scientists and the Vatican, the pope stopped further tests on the shroud. Whether the shroud is a fake or an original, I do not think it is going to have any effect on Christianity.
@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
12 Dec 08
May be, but I wonder why the Pope would find it hard to accept the evidences presented by scientists who are Christians. I don't think the Pope is that narrow-minded. But I have not read the issue since I did not think it important.
@LaurenInLA (2270)
• United States
10 Dec 08
I am a Catholic and I do believe that the Shroud of Turin is the cloth that covered Jesus Christ. I think that carbon dating has dated the shroud as being earlier than the thirteenth century and it is odd to me that those who cared for Jesus would have passed this down as the shroud that covered him if it were not.
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@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response LaurenInLA, sorry I was delayed in answering your response, I know for Catholics it is a holy garment which covered Jesus Christ, but the Carbon dating has mentioned that it is of thirteenth century, that is one of the reasons I asked this question.
@jlamela (4898)
• Philippines
11 Dec 08
Shroud of turin is just fiction, according to some group of researchers and scholars in Italy, it was a fiction from 13th century that deceived millions when it was pick up by silly authors publishing useless novels deliberately attacking the Roman Catholic church and damaging the Catholic faith.
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response jlamela, but unfortunately it is the Catholic Church which believes it to be an original cloth which covered Jesus Christ when he was crusified, and if I am right the Pope has stopped the testing of the cloth after the initial tests. So only when the Church Authorities have given the cloth for testing, the tests were done by the scientists, and once again nobody has been able to say whether the cloth was from the 1st century, but they were sure that it was from the thirteenth century.
@randis1 (112)
• United States
10 Dec 08
It amazes me how few people know that the Carbon-14 test was overturned a couple years ago...turns out that the piece of fabric that was tested actually was a 13th century piece of patchwork. The rest of the cloth dates back to the first century.
I encourage everybody to either read Frederick Zugibe's book "The Crucifixion of Jesus: A Forensic Inquiry" or buy the movie "The Fabric of Time".
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response randis1, this is a new information you have given, which I have not heard before, I will try to read this book or atleast try to buy the movie.
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response sharra1, and sorry for the delay in answering. As you have rightly mentioned for the believers it is an important symbol.
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
10 Dec 08
No, I don't believe that the shroud of turin was from Jesus. Nor do I believe that the grave of Jesus' family was found. And Santa Clause isn't real either LOL. And even if I am wrong it doesn't affect my faith anywhichways.
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
12 Dec 08
Thanks for the response murderistic, and everyone knows that Santa Claus is a marketing gimmick done by the American companies, but for the Christian children Santa is real, and when children are happy, the whole world is happy.
