Downed Plane

@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
January 15, 2009 4:30pm CST
I'm pretty sure that by now many of you have heard about the plane that went down into the Hudson River in New York today. At my last reading of the story no reports of injuries had been made, although people had to swim in icy waters following the accident. What bothers me is that the accident was probably caused by a bird. This is very frightening to me. I have never flown because of fear, but after reading this story I would be even less inclined to ever board a plane. It scares me to death that a huge plane can be downed by a tiny bird! What are your feelings about this?
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
16 Jan 09
I don't know what to say about that, it does sounds strange, I don't know how a bird could down a plane, has any of the reports come out yet as to why that could happen?
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• United States
16 Jan 09
Larger birds, in this case geese, fly into the engines and cause them to malfunction. This happens quite often, and as such most planes are designed to work with one engine not functioning. However, this was a freak accident where geese flew into both engines on this plane, so that is why it had to make that landing.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
I suppose you have heard it all by now, winterose, and we can all rest in the knowledge that those were some very lucky people.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 09
Yes I heard about this on the news...as you know I live in the NYC area....what is really amazing that everyone survived the crash into the Hudson River, so I can't help thinking that was one amazing pilot....he landed the plane on the water rather smoothly...had the plane veered left or right of the river it could have crashed into skyscrapers and a lot of fatalities could have happened..not only on board the place but anyone in the buildings..and yes, the report indicates that the engines were affected by a flock of birds..gee, poor birds...LOL. You know, since this is actually a common threat to the engines of planes, you would think they would redesign the engines, like a covering of some kind to prevent birds from getting caught and sucked into the engines
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
I have often wondered, pyewacket, how planes and flying creatures co-exist up there in the skies, so I guess I have my answer now. The pilot truly is amazing and I think he should be commended. Maybe now they will consider some design changes.
@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
16 Jan 09
I think they are so lucky that it happened where it did so that they could land fairly safely. Can you imagine if it had happened over the mountains? I heard a pilot say that the only reason that this accident happened is because it was a whole flock of geese at once rather than just one or two. As someone else has pointed out, airplanes don't crash land that often. They are fairly safe. Cars and trains are way more likely to have a crash or accident.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
Lucky for all concerned, Trace, that it didn't happen over the mountains.
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@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
15 Jan 09
I was a little freaked out too. My family is going to florida next year. My husband wants us to fly even though my parents are driving because my mom won't fly. So just for the heck of it I was looking up flight prices this morning before I heard about the plane going down. Scary thing too that the flights I was looking at was for US Airlines too. It is scary to think a bird could take down a plane even though it doesn't happen very often.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
17 Jan 09
Yes, ravinskye, it is very frightening to know that such a tiny creature can be the cause of so much confusion.
• United States
15 Jan 09
Well, for one, it was two birds, not one; making this a freak accident. Two, these weren't little birds, they were geese, which are pretty big. Even still, this is a scary situation to think about, because as the news says, this is an occurrence that happens often, even though usually its only one bird taking out one engine. I have flown a few times, as a matter of fact six trips. Three up to New York (one landing in LaGuardia of all places!) and three trips back home to CVG. You would think after this many trips, I would no longer be afraid. Yeah right! That was seven years ago, and I haven't ventured to take a plane trip since!!!
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• United States
19 Jan 09
Compared to the size of the entire plane yes, but in relation to some of the engines that planes have, they are large enough to gum up the works. If this is your fear, I would just avoid airports that are next to large bodies of water. This is where this occurs the most.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
17 Jan 09
Regardless of the size of the offending birds, drknlvly, compared to the size of a plane they would be considered small, and, yes, I hear that these incidents do happen more frequently than I had imagined.
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@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
15 Jan 09
Plane crashes happen always, and some people , some don't. I think it is more fate, then the accidental causes. A bird hitting a plane? I must say that is pretty classic! I don't know if that would be even logical. But, then again, a bird gets hit by something going over 700 mph would I guess startle the engine.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
17 Jan 09
Actually, luvandpower, I've heard that it is a quite common occurrence.
@marty3888 (2355)
• Acme, Michigan
15 Jan 09
I just turned it on. I didn't hear anything about a bird. I've just now heard it was engine failure. At any rate, I still wouldn't hesitate to fly. It still is safer than driving.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
17 Jan 09
I think, marty, that the bird was the direct cause of the accident.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
16 Jan 09
In the Aussie news I read that it was a couple of bird strikes...that ussually means a flock of birds. I understand how you feel...I'm not too fond of flying either.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
We are what we are, Ms Tickle, and I would have overcome my fear of flying long ago if I felt the need to.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
16 Jan 09
I just read another discussion about this also. I have been on a plane a couple of times and I was scared too. It is weird that a bird caused it.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
Maybe it was news to me, stephcjh, because I am not a flier, but I understand that this is not uncommon.
@bdugas (3578)
• United States
16 Jan 09
I understand that it wasn't a tiny bird but a flock of geese that some was sucked into the engine and stopped them from working. I also do not fly, too many things that can go wrong. I did fly to Hawaii once and I must admit that it was a smooth flight all the way. But I was a nervous wreck all the way. I guess the geese shorted out the engines.I think the pilot is a remarkable man, and should be congradulated on bringing it down the way he did and I find it a miracle that all on board survied what could of been a great tragady. Hopefully this will not happen again. We never know what tomorrow will being. But god was looking over this bunch of people and a great thanks goes out to the people on the ferry that was willing to help the ones on the place.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
You are correct on all counts, bdugas, and the fact that the incident all came about due to a bird(or birds) was what captured my attention. I agree that Someone was watching over these people for it to turn out so well.
@makingpots (11915)
• United States
20 Jan 09
My sister is deathly afraid of flying and I thought the same thing when I heard this story. She is going to be even less likely to ever board a plane knowing now she has birds to worry about too. Actually, birds have always been a concern for planes but we have just kept that little tidbit of information from her until now. Haha It is rare for a plane to be downed by birds like this case. It was a flock of birds on this day over the Hudson and all engines were involved in the mishap. I am so glad this was an injury-less incident.
• United States
16 Jan 09
Where did you get your information that this was probably by a bird? And I'm not afraid to fly. I am more afraid to drive! Accidents can happen at any time, you can't live your life in fear. Even if you never leave your house, the furnace could explode! Someone could break in to your house. I mean, you are never really safe. So, there is no point in worrying about it. You can be prepared but you can't stop things from happening, so live your life. You will die eventually anyways! Why focus on the fact the plane crashed? Why not focus on how amazing it was that everyone was rescued and ok, and that the pilot was skilled enough to land them safely? That's amazing, the skill and calm that pilot had!
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
I never said that the plane "crashed," for the first thing, michigan, and I focused on the downing of the plane because that is what the headlines focused upon. Had the plan not been downed there wouldn't be a news story at all.
@jessi0887 (2788)
• United States
16 Jan 09
I think it was great that no one got hurt. The pilot himself was brave and did a good job.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Jan 09
Absolutely, jessi, and I think the pilot should get a medal!