Man charged with rape sues victim

Australia
January 24, 2009 5:54pm CST
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/732904/theophanous-sues-rape-accuser This is so crazy its sad. This former government minister who is charged for raping a woman is now suing her for $10 million. Mind you he is charged with the crime. He accuses the woman, a former Melbourne resident, of maliciously attacking his reputation in Australia and Greece by falsely accusing him of rape. If this guy wins then I will no longer belive in justice and law. What do you think about this? Do you think its right for a charged person to sue the victim?
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I think that he has every right to counter sue this woman under the circumstances. Such charges have destroyed his career and reputation and I'm sure torn his family and pretty much his life apart. If someone were to charge me with such a damaging crime and I were innocent...you can bet, I'd be on the defense! One would have to ....just have to ....wonder why this woman waited 10 years to come forth! After such a long time, what sort of proof could he possibly have to his innocence? And for that matter.....what proof could she have to his guilt? This is not the case of an innocent child. This is a grown woman who is protected by the cloak of anominity. The rape should have been reported when it happened when there may have been some evidence. Sounds to me as if this woman has ulterior motives. I think he should sue her for all that she has which probably isn't much. She is probably hoping to gain from this.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
She didnt wait 10 years. This has been public for the past 2 years or so She was a nobody and he was somebody and at the time it happened no one belived her or they were influenced by him so not much was done but she never stoped fighting it took her a long time to get him charged but there is evidence against him. He has been formaly charged. If he is inocent let the courts decide that and then sue what he is doing is blackmail. Money talks
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
25 Jan 09
Oh, I really don't know. I am certainly not saying that he's innocent by any means. I haven't read other parts to this story so I'm sure there is much that I am missing. Even 8 yrs is a long time to wait. I'm just trying to play fair to both sides here. If he is guilty then his counter suit will be dropped anyway. If I got raped, I would not care about his money or power and I'd not be subdued. If he were guilty and countersued, well, that would only pump my adrenelin...wouldn't be to his benefit at all. I would be curious to the evidence from that long ago. Even if they did have a relationship....to prove it was rape after that long?? Interesting story. You'll have to keep us updated.
• Australia
26 Jan 09
Ok let me explain she tried to get the ball rolling when that happened but it was swept under the carpet she did not wait years to report. Things happened in that investigation that made it posible for him not to even be mentioned. The case was re-opened 2 years ago. I dont know all the details as we still dont get much he is protected by very powerful people. But he went from aleged rape and aleged rapist to charges because there was enough evidence.
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• Dallas, Texas
25 Jan 09
If he is not guilty I think he should sue - But if he is guilty - they should add prison time. If your justice system is like it is in America (innocent until proven guilty) - seems like he would have every right to sue. It may be a ploy to make him "look" innocent.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
He was charged end of story no ifs no buts. Just because he has a high position he thinks he can get away with it. Sick thats what it is. I dont care what game he is playing and what he wants to get out of it but he is using his position to torment this lady.
• Dallas, Texas
25 Jan 09
Does charged mean you have been proven guilty there? Here it just means that is what you have been accused of - people here get accused of BS all the time here. But I am not there to see what is going on. If he is guilty and is using his power to sue - that is absolutely crazy. If he is allowed to do that - your justice system sucks!
• Australia
25 Jan 09
This case has been going on for some 2 years or so there is enough evidence to charge him for the crime what he would get for it that is another thing. The latest news are that he has been charged if he is not guilty or there was no evidence the charges would have been droped ages ago.
@GADHISUNU (2164)
• India
25 Jan 09
True if a person wins because he wields power then there is no justice. But the minister has sued the victim even as he is charged. Till he is cleared of charges how is it ever possible for him to sue? Is it not necessary in the administration of justice in the country that once a case is sub-judice, one cannot express his feelings or ideas or it will be treated as contempt of court?
• Australia
25 Jan 09
I think that what he is doing is using some loop hole because he was charged in Australia but the victim now lives in Greece and he is suing in Greece or something like that. Discusting
@GADHISUNU (2164)
• India
25 Jan 09
This is a further twist to it. First he is charged in Australia. That means the victim was Australian and the crime was committed in Australia, and because of diplomatic immunity he was let off to go to his native country. But there must be an extradition treaty between the two countries that would make him to be brought to justice in the country of crime. Is Greece not a democracy? Then the rules of jurisprudence must be similar if not the same. How was it even allowed that he sues without clearing himself. Now let's say, the whole thing was a false allegation. Then the minister is morally right in suing. But since the criminal case is already registered, he must first get it cleared in Australia under the Australian Laws before he can do anything. Let's say the victim didn't even visit Greece how can she be ever called to the court. Will the Australian Government allow this? Why will they agree to extradite the victim to Greece? To me it looks like to be a dummy case filed in court to just give an impression to the locals that he was victimized... to gain the sympathy of the locals or to in a way clear himself at least within his country, for his political career may be at stake.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
you are right this is a sick game he is playing. The victim is in Greece now he is in Australia just to make it clear
@uath13 (8227)
• United States
25 Jan 09
If she's making it up he has every right to sue. If he's found guilty that's a different story.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
But how can he sue before court even starts let him prove he is not quilty then sue
@sid556 (31018)
• United States
25 Jan 09
It is called countersuing. He has every right to defend himself. If she is falsly accussing him then her accusations are as damaging to him as what she is accusing him of doing. Put it this way. I once did daycare. If I got accused of molesting or abusing one of the children in my care...oh yes, I would sue back and especially if the accuser waited 10 years to accuse me and after I was successful! What other defense would I have at that point? How would I prove my innocence after such a time lapse? The accusation alone would destroy my career as it would put question to my credibility. It may destroy my family and reputation. Can you even imagine what such accusations would do to someone's life? After ten years, if I could not prove my innocence then the so-called victim would also do me in financially. Oh you can bet I'd be fighting back....hard!
@uath13 (8227)
• United States
25 Jan 09
As would I. Some people place charges like this just for attention & money & don't care about the person they hurt. They should be held accountable for false accusations.
• United States
25 Jan 09
oh my God! I think he attack his own reputation when he attacked her! He better not win a case like this, it's ridiculous any way you look at it!! And 10 million dollars!?!? What civilian has that kind of money, he's ridiculous. I'm sure if he wins there will be a HUGE uproar. And it'd be called for!
• Australia
25 Jan 09
But can you see what he is doing. Before he even goes to court he is suing her hoping she drops the charges because as you said who has $10 million, and then he sais I will donate the money so people are not upset by this. Well played game I will give him that
@sid556 (31018)
• United States
25 Jan 09
It happened 10 years ago! why is it just being brought up now?
• United States
26 Jan 09
yeah that is awful! she shouldn't drop the charges...keep fighting him! i don't know what person would grant him 10 million!!!
@jpso138 (7844)
• Philippines
25 Jan 09
Well, I am not in the position to say that the man is guilty or not. I think this has to be proven first. Usually every person is innocent until proven guilty. I am basing this on our law, here in our country which I pressume is also similar to other coutry. Considering that he is not yet convicted, then, the case of rape has not been proven yet. Well, in this case, the man charge has also the right to file a case againts the accuser. That is my simple understanding of the law. But I do hope in the end that truth will prevail and that justice be served.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
Thats true but the rape case is handled in Australia and the other in Greece there are too many things wrong with this case. What if the case in Greece sais the woman should pay $10 million but the Austrlian finds him guilty of rape. There should be something saying that he should wait the outcome of the rape case.
@sid556 (31018)
• United States
25 Jan 09
Logically, she can not be charged with falsly accusing him until it has been proven that she has. If the courts decide that she was in fact raped then his charges against her will automatically be dropped. His charges will only have meaning if it is found beyond a doubt that she lied about all this. If he is innocent, he has to go to extremes now to prove it....he has to prove that she is lying. If it got dropped for lack of evidence....wouldn't that also mean that he has lack of evidence of her lying?? One of them must have some pretty strong evidence here, i'd think.
@livewyre (2455)
25 Jan 09
It's a sad case if the man is actually guilty, but if he is not, then should he not be allowed to sue? - and if he is convicted, then he wouldn't be able to win his libel/slander case anyway (which are notoriously difficult to win in any case). I think you have to let justice take it's course through the courts - he knows full well whether he is guilty or not - maybe it is s bluff, but maybe it is not - how can we know? I prefer to say in both cases, that they must be considered innocent until proven guilty that's how justice is supposed to work. Lets see whether there is evidence that he raped her - and whether there is any evidence that she has lied - then you can decide whether there has been a miscarriage of justice. Plenty of people are charged with crimes without there being enough evidence for a case. Plenty of people are tried and found not guilty - I would save your outrage until he is convicted of something, then you would be in a better position to make an argument. Let me state that I sincerely believe that rape is one of the most shameful crimes anyone can commit and every time I hear of a case I am ashamed of my gender - at the same time though, I sincerely believe that false accusation of rape is (almost equally) shameful.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
No one in the right mind will stick to such case for 10 years if she is not been honest her life is a wreck because of this she had to restart her life and even after moving and all she continues to acuse him. The police has all the evidence and have charged him there is no question that he did it. If he belives he didnt then why doesnt he prove he didnt and clear his name and then sue. He is doing this before he even goes to court and hopes that she will drop the case now that she is facing this $10 million fine.
@livewyre (2455)
25 Jan 09
I don't know how justice works where you come from, but in the world I inhabit being charged is not the same as being convicted. Presumably he will get his chance to 'prove' his case when he is eventually tried for the crime - you don't get a chance to prove your innocence until the case commences (assuming there will be a trial). She can't get a 'fine', he could be awarded 'damages' but only if he can prove his case - therefore let the courts decide...
@jambi462 (4598)
• United States
25 Jan 09
Well I don't see how you can judge who is wrong and who's right in this case because there's really no evidence of either side presented in this case. What if you were wrongly accused of rape? It would definitely affect your reputation and your life. But then again if the girl's claim is correct which I'm not saying is or isn't then I would say put that monster in jail. I agree that politicians do tend to get away with things that they shouldn't but what are we the common man to do about that other then to sit and watch angrily wishing we could do something about it.
• Australia
25 Jan 09
Would you personaly put your self infront of the camera and acuse someone of rape that didnt happen knowing that you are just a no one and the person can eat you for brakfast because all the power and money are on his side???? I would not. Would you seek justice for 10 years if it wasnt true???? This lady did that. There is enough evidence to proove he did it the only thing stoping this case is his money and power.
@sid556 (31018)
• United States
25 Jan 09
The article did not say she'd been seeking justice for 10 years. It said it happened 10 years ago and he filed the counter suit last week. The article really doesn't say much to draw all these conclusions. I am not in any way saying he is innocent as I have no way of knowing...none of us do. Just seems as if these allegations should have hit the news long before now.
@dinos1 (204)
• Greece
25 Jan 09
There are many things wrong with that case, apart the blatant abuse of justice on his behalf.. What kind of authority would a regional court have over a crime that was not even comitted in Greece? It says that the crime was committed in Victoria's Parliament...
• Australia
26 Jan 09
I am with you I have no idea what loophole he is using
@Corimore (249)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I think there sould be laws in all countries that until charges are dropped or cleared there shouldn't be any lawsuits or such to the victim. It's as if they are allowing him to rape her again. Pitiful!
• Australia
26 Jan 09
I agree with you 100%
@aseretdd (13712)
• Philippines
25 Jan 09
You should go to my country... this sort of thing happens all the time... just a few weeks ago... a government official and his brother beat the crap out of a 56 year old man and his 14 year old son... and they had the decency to file counter charges against them... and then a few months ago... and actor who molested a girl... sued the girl for unjust vexation... Some people are very good at finding loopholes in the justice system just to get away from being punished... of for them to look good in front of the public...
• Australia
25 Jan 09
I donth think the are smart enough to find loopholes I think miney, power and friends do talk a lot