How do you feel about this law...came into effect TODAY..Feb.1st?

Canada
February 1, 2009 2:52pm CST
As of today, in British Columbia, Canada...ANYONE convicted of Driving (FIRST) conviction..under the influence of Al$C*HOL...gets a one year MANDATORY sentence that will only allow them to drive ANY vehicle, unless they have blown into a Unit called a Alcotrol...and it has zero tolerance! Your vehicle will NOT start, if there is any indication of indulgence! These Units cost $1500.00 plus taxes, and if your sentence is 3 years....you must buy a new one EVERY year! What is your honest opinion...do you feel this is too harsh...or will it get a handle on drinking/driving?
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17 responses
@gie2910 (407)
• United States
1 Feb 09
woooooooooow, I think it is good. Now people would never drive under ....... I think it is pretty good
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
Hopefully, this will have some effect as a deterent...as I don't know where you live, but we have far to many deaths related to the almighty imbibing. Thanks for responding!
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@gie2910 (407)
• United States
3 Feb 09
So I think the Law will help?!!!! Thanks for your fellow up!!!
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@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
18 Mar 09
Wow..I thought the law here was tough! That is very persuading for the drinker to wait til they get home. Here,you lose driving rights for a year no matter what for the first time. The court can however issue a limited driving permit which says from here to there between this time and that. They also pay a big fine and have to spend 30 days in jail. This can be spent on weekends if allowed by the judge. They have also started charging inmates "boarding fees". They have to pay a certain amount per day they stay.I know a few people who have had a DUI and believe me..they are not likely to have another one soon.
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
11 Feb 09
In NY State, we either had a young man invent that thing or the forerunner of that thing and it's voluntary. NY State acts like it's a right to have a license instead of a priveledge. They give people back their licenses and don't use prevention. I'm proud that your state made that happen on my Birthday. Yeah! February's stone is Amethyst. The stone often attributed to sobriety. Take care.
• Canada
12 Feb 09
First of all....Belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY...you February Gem! Just to clarify, this happened in the Province of British Columbia, Canada...and we are "one" of the fore-runners...no other province, and I think only one State! (Please note; us Canadians tend to get our feathers ruffled, when we are called a State! LOL!) cheers!
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
12 Feb 09
Sorry, I meant, your Province, I did read where it happened, but I had to hurry and get the phone so I typed the rest fast and just reverted back to what we have and I type all the time here. I've never been called a gem before, how sweet! Thanks. I figured it was one Province, but which state? Is it one bordering Canada? Is certainly isn't mine, that would make too much sense?
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@lisa0502 (1726)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
I think that it is a really good idea. There would probably be less deaths to innocent people if they do this. I think though that it would not stop all people as they could get into a different vehicle that does not have one of these boxes and still drive though. But it is definately a step in the right direction.
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
lisa0502...from what I understand, this unit has something like a tracking device with it too! I am not sure of how all the "mechanics of the program" work, but there are several built in deterrents, for people who think they are smarter than the law! Will keep you all posted, as the days go by!
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@lisa0502 (1726)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
I hope that it does and thanks.
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@max1950 (2313)
• United States
2 Feb 09
that;s a tricky question at least you get to drive, in the states they take your licence for a year no driving, none ,zippo, plus court costs and 2 years probation so is it worth 1500 to drive for a year ? i'd take it.
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
Is that in every state? This is only for the province of B.C.! Just to set the record straight...the $1500.00 will only be for the "Alchotrol"...the implement that allows the vehicle to be started. That is over & above the fines & court costs! And this is for first time convictions! Or if you have an accumulation of 3 24-hour roadside suspensions! Thanks for responding, max1950!
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@max1950 (2313)
• United States
2 Feb 09
That;s the max for first offence, now whether or not that particular judge will inpose the full penalty is up to him, in Florida, your going away for awhile.
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• United States
28 Jul 09
I love the idea, special because I've been thru this with my husband few times allready....so that will make other peoplle to take a cab before doing a very bad decision
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• Canada
28 Jul 09
Welcome to myLot, dianatapu....and appreciate your input here on this discussion! Can you convince your husband, to leave the car at home, when you are going out for the evening? And take a cab, to your destination? If the car doesn't start out the evening with you....then there is NO temptation to drive after a few drinks. That is what I do with my son, as he is the driver....we just start out with a cab...and end with a cab...SOOOO much safer! Cheers!
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@jestortz (44)
• United States
18 Mar 09
it won't work said to say they will just get someone else to blow in them to get the car started and go on driving, they had that down here in louisiana and it did not work!
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• Canada
18 Mar 09
First of all, let me Welcome you to myLot! Hope you will enjoy spending some time here and imparting us with your wisdom & wit! The unit as you refer to has had smarter persons working on it, than the person's that use it, it is now personalized, individualized, and not part of a vehicle anymore! As you say, past tense...but technology moves, I think, at little faster than a lot of us think! Have a great time here....and Cheers!
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@cripfemme (7715)
• United States
14 Mar 09
As a person who's cousin almost killed a little kid i must say the idea of admonitory breathe testing before certain people get behind the wheels of cars. It is in my opinion a good idea. The price seems a little steep but i guess if they wouldn't of messed up in the first place they wouldn't be paying it so its kind of fair.
• Canada
15 Mar 09
Cripfemme...I do hear you when you say the price is steep...BUT WHAT IS THE PRICE of a LIFE? Drinking & driving is not an accident!! It is something that these people CHOOSE to do, so they are choosing the costly consequences. They have chosen to give up their rights & privileges...and the victim did not have the choice of life? There is absolutely NO excuse for this behaviour, and for drink outlets to let this happen! Hardliner, aren't I? Thanks for responding, and have a great day! Cheers!
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@sid556 (31005)
• United States
3 Feb 09
I don't feel that anything that deters dwi is too harsh! It's pretty simple...don't drink and drive. Yet people do it all the time. If you think this is too harsh .....ask any parent that has lost a child due to someone who was drunk and driving. Ask any parent who has lost a child that drank and drove. Yes it is costly but those drivers earned that cost. Maybe they just should stop drinking and driving. How hard is it to call for a ride or set up a designated driver? Will it solve the problem? Probably not but it can't hurt. Drunks that want to drive are determined...I'm sure they'll find a way around this little device like take another vehicle or get someone that is not drunk to blow into it. Still it is one more step in the right direction. We need to do everything we can do to keep these people off the road for everyone's sake.
• Canada
3 Feb 09
Thank you, so much, sid556..for chiming in here! And as you have probably read, I am a retired Ambulance Attendant...and have seen more than my share of carnage by impairment! I do not know the mechanics of the "alcohtrol"...as it just has been implemented (Feb.01/09)...and I am sure there will be lots of ways to get around it, but at least we are taking a positive step towards controlling this beast! And it truly hits the first time offenders hard in their pocket books! There has always been a laissez-faire attitude regarding our "DWI's", as in the past they only came down hard one second, etc., time offenders! Cheers & Thanks!
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@Ithink (10501)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I think this is a great idea, I just get how the Alcotrol will work, couldn't someone else just blow into it? If it wasn't for that I would say great, as if you are caught drunk driving it is normally from swerving and things which means that you have really drank to much! I think that anyone that has been affected by drunk drivers and a lot of people have would love this law. Im sorry but if you are going to drink at least do it responsibly and if you cant will then you deserve whatever the courts throw at you in my opinion!
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
To be very honest with you, I am not sure of the "mechanics of implementation"..but there is a way that they have it imprinted to you! And there is serious jail time if you are ever caught without it! We will learn more about it in days to come...and "no-one" in this Province even knew that this item was on the drawing board! If it saves any number of innocent lives, I am all for it! And we have taken the most serious stand of any province in Canada. Thank you for responding!
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@wheel416 (1019)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
Hi there, like you I am a fellow Canadian (Ontario here) and I think that this is an absolutely wonderful idea. Driving is a privilege and not a right. I think that most people do not get this concept. People earn the right to drive, that's why we have driving tests, and examinations for new drivers as well as reexamination for those who may have health conditions that affect the driving. In case people missed it the first time, driving is a privilege, not a right! In my not so humble opinion, you lose the right to drive as soon as you have been convicted of driving under the influence. I personally would like to see licenses revoked more often and more harshly. If people realized that they were going two have two get a ride to work, ride a bicycle or take the bus they may think twice about getting behind the wheel of a car after having a drink or two. With that being said, I'm not and I even have to think that just by taking people's licenses away we're going to stop drinking and driving, that is absolutely not true! I realize that there will be those that will drive without a license anyway, but eventually I believe they will get caught. So obviously you can tell by this point that I'm in favor of the new law, and I hope that it gets people thinking about the fact that driving is a privilege. Great discussion! Take care, and happy Mylotting!
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
Hey, wheel416...a truly well thought out response...and I thank you! You have NOT missed a point that I have been preaching for year's! And there's just some "dunderheads" with "mush" between the ears, that don't get talk...so maybe by hitting them extremely hard in the "pocketbook" (seems money talks louder than words) we will get thru to a few of them...and that's a few more innocent people to enjoy their lives in full complement of all of their faculties. So often it is the innocent, that pay for the impaired! Cheers!
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• United States
2 Feb 09
I think this is good. but if someone really is that hard headed to get behind the wheel while drinking, whats to stop them from getting some other stupid person from blowing into the thing?
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
It is very new...but somehow it is tailored to you...so that that sort of thing cannot happen! This is only the second day...and it happened with NO notice that it was even in the works! I think fear of the unknown will help deter...and I am sure there will be a million wrinkles...but it is a step in the right direction to try and stem this problem. Thanks for responding!
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@winterose (39918)
• Canada
1 Feb 09
when people have killed themselves and killed other people who were innocent because of their foolhardy behavior behind the wheel, not it is not too harsh, bravo british columbia you want to drink take a bus or a taxi
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
I am hoping this will help to stem the many that persist, even tho they already have convictions! I think that is the hard-hitting in the pocket book, that will be a bigger deterrent than the "alcotrol." Thanks for responding, m'dear!
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@fasttalker (2797)
• United States
1 Feb 09
I think it is a great thing. This surely would stop people from driving under the influence. I have no tolerance for this anyway so I'm all for it!
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• Canada
2 Feb 09
Thank you for responding, fasttalker....we don't know if this is the answer, but it is an attempt at solving the issue...as so far, nothing else seems to have been effective!
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@violeta_va (4834)
• Australia
2 Feb 09
First of all I would not permit them to drive for a years FULL STOP. Then they can have the unit installed for ever I dont care how long. It is discusting to see how many people drive while drinking I dont care if they crash and get killed because they chose to sit behind the wheel what I care is that they put other people in danger by doing so.
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@ronnyb (6120)
• Jamaica
31 Jan 10
No its not to harsh for something that can take away someone's life .Far too many families have lost loved ones and bread winnner for somehing that is unavoidable.The penalties must be a strict as is possible ,I make no apologies for persons who practise driving under teh influence
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• Canada
31 Jan 10
Good morning, ronnyb....thank you for digging up an old discussion, and commenting!Sadly, we are nearing the anniversary of this new law, and it's deterrent properties are NOT showing up on statistics! In British Columbia, we have had a plethora of "law administrators" (our provincial/municipal police)being picked up and prosecuted for Drunk Driving....and it seems to have the citizens that tend to practice drunk driving...thumbing their noses! There has to be a way of ending this "highway slaughter,"...and sadly enough hitting them in the pocket book and taking away their priviledges....DOESN'T seem to be working! Maybe having them work in a Morgue for a year, would have some deterring effects. Have a great day, Cheers...and Thanks!
@finlander60 (1775)
• United States
28 Jul 09
The penalty for drunk driving in Finland, which used to have the most serious problem, is to lock the offender in jail AND LEAVE HIM THERE FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. End of problem.
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