London has come to a standstill!!

@liquorice (3901)
February 2, 2009 4:04am CST
Last night we had the worst snow in 20 years, and now everything is closed and nothing is working! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4424991/Britain-hit-by-worst-snow-in-20-years.html It's very pretty, and my daughter loves it, but it's soooo annoying when you really have to be somewhere and you can't get there. It's true that we haven't had bad snow for a long time, but we usually get a tiny bit of snow each year, and when it happens we just seem to be totally unprepared. The roads aren't gritted, the bus network is down, trains are affected, and so schools and workplaces are closed. Actually my husband managed to get in by train, and found that he's now the only person there.. Because of the problems with the roads it's difficult for me to visit my family, who only live 15 minutes drive away by car. But I have no way of getting there except if I walked (with my 3-year old in tow!); and in the snow that would probably take us at least an hour. Hrmfffffffffft, it makes me angry, as other countries manage months of snow without having these kinds of problems. Ok, that's my rant over with ... Do you get lots of snow? Do schools and offices shut when it snows? How does your country cope when it snows?
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@tigerdragon (4297)
• Philippines
2 Feb 09
hi. i am glad we don't have it here in the tropics, i am from the philippines, if it's snow in your country, it is going to be the heat of summer that we will be dreading come next month. it is actually already starting to get hotter here but we can leave with it, we just have to stay indoors with our airconditoning on the whole day.
@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Yes, not much chance of snow for you! I am a bit jealous of the hot summer that you're expecting next month, but I know that very hot weather has its own problems. I hope it's not too unmanageable, and that you manage to stay cool! Thanks for your answer.
• Philippines
3 Feb 09
if you happen to pass by manila just buzz me . it is better to enjoy the weather here with a friend! stray warm!
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• Indonesia
3 Feb 09
It's still better than what happens to us here, we got flood when it's rainy days. And believe me, I would prefer to stuck in my home by snow than surrounded by flood water that came from errrrr, toilet maybe...
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@littleone3 (2065)
2 Feb 09
Hi As i only live 22 miles outside of London you will already know how it is affecting our country. Both of my children's schools are closed so have all five of them at home today. A fact which they are very happy about. I am planning in staying in today the furthest i will be going will be in the garden to make snowman with my youngest sons. It is strange isn't it we get snow and the whole country comes to a standstill. I have to agree we are very unprepared for it. My youngest who is three in May loves it as well. He can't wait to get out there and play in the snow.
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@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Wow, you must have a noisy house today! I'm not surprised that they're all pleased about it, I remember being pleased too when it happened to us. My daughter, on the other hand, was sad! She likes her preschool. But we did go for a walk before and we made a snowman and she threw lots of snowballs at me, which was fun! I hope you all have a fun day.
@carl76 (123)
2 Feb 09
hi,i just thought i'd say that it's effecting me as well,all the buses,trains,and schools are closed and getting shopping delivered has been cancelled. i actually started a discussion earlier today about the way it always catches us out but some countries have much more snow and for longer periods but get by ok,i got a reply from someone who said that these countries who experience the extremities are generally funded by their government to cope with it it would be daft to spend millions of pounds on preparation for weather that may never come,but then at the same time it will probably cost millions to the country when verythings at a stand still. it's an awkward one and i camn't claim to know the answer but thank you for starting this discussion
@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Hi Carl, sorry I missed your discussion earlier. Yes, I suppose it does make sense that the countries with much more frequent snow would have a bigger budget for this. It just gets me how we're always so unprepared, even though we usually get at least some snow each year. And when I was at school (in the 'olden days', ha ha!) we always used to get snow like this, so it isn't outside the realms of possibility that it might have happened again some time.. Maybe councils should have some kind of contingency plans for when this happens, but I do get that limited resources means that money is also needed everywhere else. Ho hum. Thanks for your answer.
@derry123 (611)
2 Feb 09
im in london 2 ... can you believe... no buses no trains .. more to come tonight ... thankfull i have the internet and can look 4 surveys and play games ect ... keep warm ... it does look magical *walthamforest .
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
2 Feb 09
I used to live in Leyton. Magical? That's an interesting term for that place. LOL. Maybe you are in North Chingford where I can imagine that the snow in the trees must be beautiful.
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@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Thanks derry. Yes, sadly I can believe it! I agree that we should be thankful for the internet. At least that way we know which tube lines, trains, buses (hmm, none!) are working. Enjoy your games etc.. And have fun in magical walthamforest
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@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
And I'm sure that Leyton was magical too.
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@dpk262006 (56473)
• Delhi, India
2 Feb 09
No, we do not get this type of snow here in Delhi. Though the snow look beautiful and awesome from a distance, but it can cause so many problems for the residents, as you have mentioned. We have not witnessed snow of this type, which you have described. Have patience and be calm, everything will be alright soon.
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@liquorice (3901)
8 Feb 09
Thanks for your reply. Yes, snow is very beautiful and nice to play in, but it causes problems as we're not really used to it any more, and so there is no funding to stop the problems. Thanks for your advice. Things are going back to normal again now.
@dpk262006 (56473)
• Delhi, India
9 Feb 09
Hope they are better now and things are getting back to normal.
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@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Thanks dpk (can I call you that?) Yes, the snow has all gone for now, and now we have some nice spring-like weather. Things change so quickly here, lol!
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@Eskimo (2317)
2 Feb 09
It always seems silly to me that those in the south of the country seem to be much more affected than those of us who live in the frozen north. It's winter, you have to expect snow at sometime, it doesn't take a lot of planning to keep the roads clear of snow, perhaps the gritters and snow ploughs don't want to pay the London Congestion Charge (now lifted for the day, but perhaps too late to clear the snow). Think how much worse it could have been if it wasn't for Global Warming. I have a pair of wellingtons to walk to work if I'm snowed in (takes about 60-90 minutes to walk in the snow).
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@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Yes, I agree with everything that you've said! Your side of the country seems much more organised in this situation. I was told recently that they didn't grit because the government service that used to be responsible for gritting (in the olden days!!), and also storing the grit has been privatised. And they have other things to spend their money on. It's a very sad state of affairs!
@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Oh, and well done for getting to walk. More people should brave the snow and walk. (Myself included probably - although I dread the thought of doing such a walk with a three-year old. )
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
I have heard about this situation in the newspaper. It seems that the snow there in you country has become a problem already. We do not have snow here in our area. Well, I do hope that the situation well become better soon.
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@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Thanks for your answer. It was a pain at the time, but now the snow's gone.
@AbbeyB (670)
• Spain
3 Feb 09
Thankfully I live in the sun as I hate the cold and snow but it amazes me how the UK grinds to a standstill, in scotland they cope with the snow all the time but down south they panic and then dont know what to do. Surely the grtters should have been out earlier and sorted the roads out? I agree the Uk need to get it sorted so people can get on with their lives.
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@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Lucky you! Yes, it is amazing really. A Scottish friend told me recently that in Scotland they have a different type of tyres that can cope better with the snow. I'm sure that they also grit the roads, which didn't happen much here, and was a major problem.
@Kenzierou (108)
• Indonesia
3 Feb 09
Global Warming CAN and WILL do more than that, so people around the world, wherever you are, whenever you can, please think GREEN ( not money's green tho.. lol )
@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Thanks for your answer, and the reminder. It's weird to think that global warming can make it snow more than normal - you'd expect it to make it warmer, not colder. But I know that it has many complicated effects.
@samma00 (342)
• Canada
3 Feb 09
I saw pictures of it, it's pretty insane. I have family that live up in England and whenever they would come to canada in the winter they were always so shocked.
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@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Yes, we had a small taster of what it must be like in the Canadian snows . It was very pretty and nice to see for a little while. The bad thing was lack of transport links and slippery, snowy roads. It's all gone for now though, and we are now having some very welcome, almost spring-like weather!
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
Hi liquorice, I live in Canada and we get a lot more snow than you do in Britain, but I did hear about your worst in 20 years snowstorm. That of course is the reason why the city is not prepared, it's not expected. We are delighted that we haven't had more snow this year, just a couple of storms, because last winter was very bad. We are always prepared because we never know when we'll get 25 to 30 cm and sometimes with winds between 70 and 100 km. It's not so hard to cope when you know it's coming. Blessings.
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@liquorice (3901)
17 Feb 09
Yes, we were not at all prepared, although if you saw how much (or rather how little) we had compared to you, you'd probably see how ridiculous it is that we couldn't cope with it! I'm glad that you haven't had it so bad this year, and that you're always prepared. Sounds harsh as well with the heavy winds. I hope you have some good weather to come. :p)
@sarah456 (87)
2 Feb 09
it will do london some good.. london is rushed and mad! we went there at the weekend to see oliver...i couldnt handle it
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@liquorice (3901)
8 Feb 09
Thanks Sarah! Yes, London can be mad. It was nice for people to have the odd snow-day or two away from work, but a bit crazy that they had to. Luckily we're not in the centre. It's a bit quieter in the 'burbs!
• United States
2 Feb 09
Our small town has been at a stand still for a week because of snow and ice. We are in USA southern Indiana and it has been worse I have ever seen it. No mail for a week even. It got warmer yesterday and a lot thawed out but then it refroze over night and now we are all stuck again. Yuck. I cannot wait until spring and summer.
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@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Thanks sweetpeasmom, I know that many in America are in a similar position, and in many cases have it a lot worse than we have it. No mail for a week would be annoying. We had no mail today, and it's likely to not be the only day. It's meant to be a bit warmer tomorrow with some sun, but then the snow's coming back, so I think we might have a similar situation. I can't wait until spring either. It's my favourite season, and this is making me long for it even more. (Wow, I am moaning a lot today! Sorry!)
@katsalot1 (1619)
2 Feb 09
I'm on the East coast, and the snow here has turned to drizzle - but it's sooo cold. I've realised in the area where I live, the teachers all live miles away from the schools that they teach in. This means that the schools can't open because the teachers can't get there. In olden days (when I was at school) the teachers lived locally so it wasn't a problem.
@liquorice (3901)
8 Feb 09
Hello fellow daffodil! Must be very cold on the East coast I imagine. Yes, I suppose that people commute a lot more these days. When we were at school I also don't remember schools closing when we had snow like this. We used to all walk in, the children and teachers alike. Thanks for your reply. Is it still snowing there? Hope you thaw out soon. :)
@p1kef1sh (45640)
2 Feb 09
It's truly pathetic that a major city should have come to a halt. Even Boris has got in on the act by lifting the Congestion Charge for the day. I have spent the day at my Cathedral course with 14 other people several of whom come in from the wilds where roads are supposedly impassable. We started at 9.30 and all bar one were there by 9.45. Several of us walked and so left earlier and one guy had to come 40 miles over the Downs and still managed it. I blame the media in part. They make such a fuss about a few flakes of snow. Heaven knows what they would do if we got serious snow. People simply need to be prepared. The elderly are an obvious priority, but aside from that, preparation, preparation, preparation! Thanks for the opportunity to rant!
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@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Yes, it really is P1key. Well, I suppose it's good that the congestion charge was lifted as it might've encouraged a few less people to not just stay at home. My m.i.l. drove to work on major roads and had no problems, and my husband got into work fine using the tube, but I know there are problems with lots of train lines. The most annoying thing for me is that there are no buses, and the roads round here are quite dangerous to get through. We had many scary moments last night on just a short drive, and at one point thought we would have to abandon our car in the middle of the road! It's good that you were able to get to your course. I think that walking is probably the best option at the moment, although I know that some of the major roads have been gritted. Maybe the media need to try to give us some handy hints (like leaving early, and that some of the big roads are fine, etc..), rather than telling us not to leave the house! Hmm, so, what am I saying exactly? Well, I agree that the media is blowing it out of a proportion to a certain extent ("stay in your homes!", "barricade yourselves in!" - ok, I made that last bit up..), but I think that to the rest of the extent , things are quite bad in some areas, and it is hard to get around if you don't want to walk for hours, and some people can't. And this is all because there are no measures in place for snow. Ok, (current) rant over!
@ellie333 (21029)
2 Feb 09
Hi Liquorice, I am in the West Country and so far we have not had snow but I think it is expected tonight, I spoke to a friend earlier today in Surrey and their local schools have been shut due to the teachers rather than pupils not being able to get in. I feel the same as you, we are never prepared even though they forcast the worst snow in 18 years. I suppose as other countries have more frequently they take it more in their stride and put snow chains on their vehicles etc, wouldn't even know where to go buy any here LOL. Huggles. Ellie :D
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@liquorice (3901)
2 Feb 09
Yes, you're right, you'd think that the forecasts would allow for some preparation, but I suppose it's more complicated than that. When I lived in France everyone had chains for their wheels, but I've never heard of anyone having them here. I hope that you don't get it too badly. It is really beautiful, but it's annoying if you have people you want/need to see. I think it's probably also the case the the teachers couldn't get to our preschool, as most of the children live very locally like us. Hope you enjoy the snow and have fun! And thanks for your reply.
@user_786 (1338)
3 Feb 09
It is very nice and strange, too to see such a heavy snow in most parts of the UK this year. There hasn't been much snow and at many cities no snow at all during winter season for last few years. UK had become very hot during summers and winter were not cold as it used to be before. This snow has certainly made UK very cold and it was very much unexpected by the people. Although, there have been road blocks, etc but people are enjoying it a lot.
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@Opal26 (17690)
• United States
3 Feb 09
Hey liquorice! That is kind of like it gets here in NY when we get too much snow! They just don't know what to do with it! They close the schools and everything gets all messed up too! It does depend on how much we get though and when it starts! But, in the area where I live if we get more than 6 inches things get difficult to clean up quickly enough. So they prefer that people stay off the roads so that the sanitation department can clean them and sand or whatever they need to do! It is frustrating! Hope things get better in London quickly!
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@mscott (1924)
• United States
3 Feb 09
We have over 30 inches of snow on the ground right now and we didn't have anything closed down yet. I think the most we got at one time this year so far was 10 inches. The schools did close for a day but it was because of the temperature not the snow. We had a couple days where it was -25 outside and then the windchill made it -40 or colder. It was too dangerous to let the kids outside to wait for the buses and stuff.
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@xbrendax (2668)
• United States
3 Feb 09
I saw pictures of the London snow fall on the news this morning. I am from Cornwall, England but have spent over 50 years in America now and I can not remember any big snows in London. Here in America we can get some awful snow falls along with major ice storms. I live in Ohio and just last week we were all hit with awful snow storms that closed down the cities. There was no mail, schools, public offices, government offices, day care, clinics, and even many stores, everything was closed and we were all snowed in. If we wanted to go any where, we couldn't because our cars were under 16 inches of snow! The next day we had an ice storm that coated everything in ice and that sure was hell trying to get around! Today everything is trying to melt.
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