mom obsessed with having kids

@Bytemi (1553)
United States
February 2, 2009 8:38am CST
I have been following this story about the Octuplets mom that is obsessed with having kids. I can't believe that there was an IVF doctor willing to implant this woman 7 times results in 14 childern eventhough she is not married and does not have a job. I am sure that some people are going to yell at me for this conversation, but it just doesn't seem right for a woman to become a baby factory and have 14 kids that she can not support. What are your thoughts?
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@eden32 (3976)
• United States
4 Feb 09
The woman has yet to share her story. Perhaps she will someday, but for now we do not truly know the full picture. Choosing to be a single parent is not at all uncommon, nor should it be. Single parents are just as devoted to their children as married couples. Choosing to live with one's parents isn't a big deal either. Families around the world live in multi-generation households. As far as supporting her children- she must have an income coming from somewhere. Fertility treatments are expensive. They're rarely covered by private insurance and they're definitely not covered by medicaid. She's been able to afford 7 IVF treatments somehow, there's no reason to assume she's on public assistance or that her parents are financially supporting her. Until she shares her story, I think the public should stop judging her. It's her life, and she's the one who will be caring for these babies.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
4 Feb 09
OK, 1. I never said that she was on public assistance. Whether she is living off the government or not, 14 kids to a single Mom that does not work is absurd. 2. I agree there is no reason why a person can not choose to the single Mom more power to you. There is no reason that a child to a single parent can not grow up happy and healthy. 3. She made it public, you can't scream pay me 2 million dollars and I will do your talk show without attracted some attention. I think that there should be a limit on IVF treatments, I am sorry if that offends anyone.
@eden32 (3976)
• United States
4 Feb 09
I didn't mean to imply that you said that she's on public assistance. It's something I have read several times in various forums. I hadn't heard that she asked for 2 million to be on a talk show either. I did read something from someone in her life who stated that the clinic was paying her for something. Perhaps she's also an egg donor? That's just a guess, and even the statement that she was paid by the clinic isn't verified, just something someone said to a reporter. I do think doctors should be expected to hold certain ethics, to follow their
@eden32 (3976)
• United States
4 Feb 09
My little one hit the keyboard before I was done- sorry. I was going to say that I think doctors should follow an ethical protocol. If 8 embryos were intentionally implanted it seems very unethical to me. There are serious risks to a mom carrying that many multiples and of course serious risks to each of the babies. I don't think there should be a "law" per say, because I don't think the government should have authority over anyone's reproductive or family life. But I do think AMA and various doctor organizations should self-police their ranks.
• United States
2 Feb 09
Is this your opinion that she's "obsessed" or is this something she has stated to the media? Also, is it documented that she has no husband and no job or is that trumped-up media crap? To my knowledge this woman hasn't talked to the media yet but I could be wrong...I haven't seen the news in a few days....
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
2 Feb 09
Yes it is documented, I don't make rumor statements: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
• United States
2 Feb 09
I didn't imply you were posting rumors...it was an honest question as I know you're an opinionated woman like myself. I've read the article--which was in fact news to me--and I agree with you. She should not have been allowed to get IVF so many times!! Especially when there are hundreds of thousands of women who either don't have insurance or whose insurance companies don't cover IVF treatment but are married or can afford to support the children they want. This woman obviously has some problems that nobody got to the bottom of and now unfortunately it is too late. She's got 14 kids who are here, and god willing will live long healthy lives. I just pray this woman is a good mother and will do everything possible not to rely on public assistance to support her family.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
2 Feb 09
Me too, hopefully whatever her issues are will not effect the kids. She asked Ophra for $2 million to appear on the show with all 14 kids. I don't think that is a good start.
• United States
2 Feb 09
Yesterday, I did a lot of digging into this story. There are many contradicting things. First, I'm not sure if she was truly implanted with eight, or if having hormone shots could have made the eggs split. Many doctors say that they cannot say how many children a person should or should not have. It sounds like this woman was paid for being implanted, which may or may not be true. I did read somewhere yesterday that was previously employed but it is unclear whether or not she is currently. A friend of Nadya Suleman said that they have plenty of money to raise all of the children and that money was not a concern for them. It also seems that there is a nanny involved with the family as well. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not for an unmarried woman having so many children, I'm just going over all of the things that I read yesterday. I think that it is unwise to have all of these children without having a father in their lives. I was raised without ever knowing my father and it's a very hard thing to deal with at times. I hope that all of these children will have a good role model in their life and they grow up with morals and happiness. I do not yet completely understand why she would be paid for IVF. Was it some kind of study or something? Who would pay you to get these sorts of treatments and not get a child out of it? That part doesn't make much sense to me, but all of the facts in the matter have not been revealed yet. I think that after everything comes out, maybe things will make more sense and everone will have a clear idea of what really went on.
@Jezebella (1446)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I cannot imagine having 8 more children. SHe was already in hardship with the 6 she had so why would she want another one? SHe lives with her parents in a single family home, how could they have enough room for all the kids plus themselves and then having someone to help take care of that many kids....I couldn't imagine it.
@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I can't image in either. Can you picture the day care costs for all those kids. WOW, I thought having my one daughter in before and after care was expensive. Wow!
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
obsessed of having several kids..then how this woman raised her kids...how do they lived in a normal life? my goodness...as individual i believed that in life we have our very own principle like what to accomplished...i think for her..having lots of kids in her whole life was her success in life.