A Rush to judgment?

United States
February 10, 2009 9:27am CST
I liked Rush Limbaugh in the early days, now I cannot listen to him. Recently he said he hopes President Obama fails. Do you agree or disagree with his comment? Are politics more important than America's success? Is Rush thinking of his own agenda and popularity with that comment, or does he truly have America's best interests in mind?
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@dogsnme (1266)
• United States
12 Feb 09
I believe he does have America's best interests in mind. Rush wants Obama to fail because he does want America to succeed. Obama's ideas as well as those of many of the Democrats in Congress - ie, Pelosi, Reid, and others and even some Republicans as well - on how to fix the economy are pushing us toward Socialism. And if America does surrender to Socialism then she will be a failure because she will have become what our forefathers fought so hard to avoid.
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• United States
13 Feb 09
I think your point has some value to it and is debatable. I'm not suggesting that President Obama has the one right plan. I definitely don't appreciate Limbaugh's attitude and approach though either.
• United States
13 Feb 09
Dogsnme, I appreciate your thoughtful post. I agree with pretty much everything you said! We have gotten away from the founding father's vision even though most of us couldn't articulate it :-) You are right on with the separation of church and state issue. As for accountability, I don't know how that works in a democracy? You are right, we need it, but I don't see it being the role of Rush and others to keep them accountable. I suppose the media informs us, but honestly, in politics, who knows what the truth is sometimes? We don't debate, we argue, we never reach the truth (well, not very often). I think we equate politics with truth, to our error. The only way I see accountability happening in a democracy is at the ballot box every few years. But then it is too late. In dictatorships, accountability comes in the form of weapons. I'm glad that is not our system. Thanks for seeing my point on Rush's tone. I am happy for him or anyone else to stir it up, lets just do it with some honor and self respect. If we lose those qualities from the founding fathers, then what's the point? The whole system will break down.
@dogsnme (1266)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Brian I appreciate your comment and your thoughts. You're exactly right on everything you said. True, maybe it's not the responsibility of Rush and other media personalitites to hold Washington accountable, or at least not their sole responsibility. In truth, it's the responsibility of all American citizens, including Rush, to hold not only themselves accountable but Washington as well. One of the ways, as you said, to do that is at the ballot box. But there are other ways such as contacting your Representative or Senator and voicing your approval or disapproval. I did just that recently when I contacted both Senators from my state...actually it was their staffers that answered the phone...and asked how they planned on voting on the stimulus package, to which they replied no, and I also told them that I voted for them in the recent election and asked that they continue to oppose the bill...at least in it's present form. We can attend townhall meetings to let our voices be heard. There are many things we can do. But we must first realize that it is our right and responsibility to demand that our government function within the framework of our Constitution and that they are there to serve us...the people...not rule over us. We can make a difference when enough of us come together to put the pressure on Washinton to govern according to our demands. Like you said, thank God we don't live under a dictatorship. But, I fear we could be headed in that direction. The biggest mistake we can make is to believe that it could never happen in America. Good day to you, Brian.
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@deejean06 (1953)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I think you misunderstood Rush - I don't think he wants the President to fail per se - he wants his policies to fail. He disagrees with the policies. He is a talk radio personality and is entitled to an opinion which, thankfully we all are in this country. I do believe he has America's best interests in mind - what he believes America's best interests to be. We have the right to agree or disagree.
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• United States
10 Feb 09
Thank God for the right to disagree. Thanks for that point of clarification on Rush, perhaps you are right. I'm just a little mistrusting of 'personalities' - I don't doubt their love of country, I just feel that they are more concerned with their own agendas and popularity. That makes anything they say suspect in my mind.
@deejean06 (1953)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Their ideas create popularity. If there were no people who agree with Rush, Sean, etc. then they wouldn't be on the air because no one would listen to them. People must agree with them in order to listen to them.
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• United States
12 Feb 09
AKA, entertainment.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I have to agree with most of the people here. Rush clearly stated that he is opposed to the policies of President Obama and hopes they fail. He was saying this in response to a request from a newspaper request his feeling on President Obama's stimulus bill and what he is trying to accomplish, in 400 words or less. After explaining what he, Rush, objected to in the package and the direction it would take this country he said I can tell you in 4 words. "I hope he fails". The media has a agenda and they will push it as far as they can. remember it was the Media that caused us to lose the View Nam War. Most historians will point to the evening news with Walter Cronkite when he announced after the Tet Offensive that the war was lost for America. We are now learning the facts of the Offensive. First it was a North Viet Nam offensive and they failed to achieve a single objective. By all accounts it was a major defeat for the enemy,except that the news media picked up on the War is Lost statement. If this had happened during President Lincoln administration or President FD Roosevelt administration he would have found himself in jail for the duration of the war. The news media has gone from reporting the news to reporting their opinion as the news and only the news that promotes their cause. Just look at the last election cycle, 83% positive stories on President Obams, and 34% positive for Senator McCain. Fox news was the coses to being fair and balanced with 53% positive for President Obama and 48% positive for Senator McCain. This example with Rush is one more of their pushing their political agenda as news.
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• United States
10 Feb 09
Thanks for contributing the Vietnam comment. I wasn't aware of that. I do agree that the media is biased. Some try to hide it by writers and editors portrayal of a situation. Some news anchors though are good and try not to be biased. Lets face it, everyone has a bias. Even the media. Even Fox News. My desire as a listener is to hear the facts so I can make a decision or form an opinion. But I also want to hear the informed opinion of certain anchors. I like that. I can learn from Rush, but I've lost my trust in him.
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@baileycows (3669)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Well first off he doesnt have our best interest at heart or he would not try to pass a stimulus that will obviously fail. But I do hope that he fails miserable so that all these sheeple people that think he is the saviour will stop putting their faith in human beings. We all make mistakes. Maybe this will wake the people up and make them realize we don't need the government in everything. It is already to large. We need to stop relying on them.
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• United States
10 Feb 09
Thanks for your comment and making a great point on the President. He is not our savior. Only the Lord can save us. Lord, help us! The people of America are struggling and looking in the wrong places for help. But I do think President Obama truly cares about this country. Yes, he is a politician who certainly has some mixed motives, but don't many of us? I am willing to give him the opportunity to try to do some good.
@PrarieStyle (2495)
• United States
2 Mar 09
Rush doesn't want America to fail, he wants President Obamas Socialist agenda to fail. I didn't like Rush until this year. I thought he was obsessed and over the top. During this presidential race I finely got him. And I agree with him. I have learned that I was much more Liberal than I thought. Now I know where I stand and what I support, and lol, I'm glad Rush is being a strong voice speaking out for America.
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• United States
2 Mar 09
Hey, thanks for writing. Could you clarify though? If you were more liberal than you thought, and I assume still are, why would you like Rush's message? Or, what turned you from being liberal to very conservative? Have a great week. Brian
• United States
3 Mar 09
I mean I used to be more liberal. I have since come to see the light.
11 Feb 09
I have never listened to Rush Limbaugh; by reputation alone, I know that he is not the kind of commentator I would appreciate. That notwithstanding, any American at this point who proclaims his/her desire to see the President of the United States fail, is not only unpatriotic, but also amazingly stupid. Look at our economy! If our president fails, can we all imagine what will happen to the stock market. Now look at the world economy! It is a well known fact that when the United States sneezes, the rest of the WORLD catches pneumonia. The global situation is in a crisis, whether we like to accept that or not. This is crunch time. This is the time for all of us to set our differences aside and work towards safe common ground. President Obama is making serious strides towards this; you may not like him, you may not appreciate some of his "liberal" approaches, but anyone and everyone has to admit that the man is making a good faith effort at pulling this country back up by its bootstraps. We need to support that--not try to run the man into the ground. I have personally taken President Obama's call to service--issued for January 19th, the observation of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday--seriously. My household has dedicated itself to doing major community service at least the first saturday out of the week, feeding the inhabitants of and collecting donations for two shelters in my home town. It may not make a huge difference, but it's helping someone get their life together or stay of the streets or stay out of a life of crime. What is Rush doing while dooming the president to failure?
• United States
12 Feb 09
Exactly. I like your perspective. And thanks for your example of service.
@anniepa (27238)
• United States
11 Feb 09
I doubt if Rush Limbaugh has EVER had anyone's interests other than his own in mind! Of course he hopes Obama, or his policies fail because if he succeeds that would mean he wouldn't be getting his huge tax breaks. He's probably gained millions from the Bush tax cuts. Annie
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• United States
12 Feb 09
Wouldn't we call that a conflict of interest? Not legally, but for all intents and purposes.
@KrauseHome (35517)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Personally I am not sure what to think of him anymore. I mean hey even if you did not Vote for Obama he is President now, and we should be supportive of him and stand behind him as he has a lot on his plate to deal with. How would you feel if you were left with all of this debt and No jobs, etc?
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• United States
10 Feb 09
Great attitude. We can still debate constructively without tearing down.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Hello BrianDaniels, How is saying out loud that we hope our leader's policy initiatives will fail any different than (falsely) publicly declaring that our leader's policy initiatives have already failed? Below is a Harry Reid quote that I supply for demonstration purposes. To be sure there are hundreds (if not thousands) of others from Reid to Pelosi to Murtha to Hollywood activists, to the overwhelming majority of US media outlets, which similarly manifest failure for the initiatives of the last administration. "WASHINGTON, April 19 (2007)(Reuters) - U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said ... the Iraq war was lost and the recent U.S. troop increase had accomplished nothing." http://www.ask.com/bar?q=Reid+declares+that+the+war+in+iraq+is+lost&page=1&qsrc=2417&zoom=&ab=4&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alertnet.org%2Fthenews%2Fnewsdesk%2FN19437927.htm Should I infer that you and others who hold a low opinion of Limbaugh for his comments will similarly 'not listen to' Harry Reid, et alia? Or, that you and others who hold a low opinion of Limbaugh will similarly question whether Harry Reid, et alia, "truly" have America's best interests in mind? Or, that you and others who hold a low opinion of Limbaugh for his comments will similarly disregard Harry Reid's, et alia, future statements and actions as an effort to bolster his (their) own popularity and agenda? What about the volumes of statements, actions and congressional votes from those who not only spoke out against, but actually thwarted the policies of presidents that they didn't much care for. Are they deserving of the same level of criticism and wholesale disregard? I can only hope that all Americans apply the same level of scrutiny and discrimination to our elected representatives as has been applied to our paid entertainers!!! To your specific questions: Q: "Are politics more important than America's success?" A: Is it possible to separate the two? I think not. Q: "Is Rush thinking of his own agenda and popularity with that comment..." A: I'm unaware of anyone being able to get into someone else's head. Although, if it were possible, I can think of a few brains that I'd like to gain access to. Though Limbaugh's isn't at the top of my list. Q: "Does he truly have America's best interests in mind?" A: As indicated above, it's impossible to say. Though, I believe that Limbaugh's sincere warnings against the ignorant adoption of Socialism is indeed at the heart of the best interests of our nation.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Hello BrianDaniels, I did not, nor would I ever suggest that our elected representatives should be "treated" like entertainers!!! To be clear, I specifically stated: "I can only hope that all Americans apply the same level of scrutiny and discrimination to our elected representatives as has been applied to our paid entertainers!!!" To suggest that they should be similarly scrutinized as it pertains to their public statements & declarations is in no way a suggestion that we should treat our elected (or moguls for that matter) differently than we would treat the average citizen. I don't think that I could hold my tongue to a level of civility if I were to personally witness a voter grovelling and slobbering all over our politicians like they ridiculously do to our Silver Screen celebrities. Oh wait, that's exactly what's been happening with Barack Obama and this messianic insanity that has plagued our nation since last June. To your suggestion that we should hold our elected to a higher standard, I'm inclined to disagree. I'd be overjoyed if we would just agree to hold them to the standard that you and I are subject to!!! This, I believe is the heart of one of the most indideous problems that plaugues our nation today -- i.e. a separate standard. Our elected have always risen from among the ranks of the citizens. There should be ONLY one standard and one set of laws. If a politician, a Hollywood star, or an average citizen violates those laws, with only the rarest exceptions, they should be treated on par! Contrary to your suggestion, I doubt that any true Washington 'insider' shares my convictions in this regard.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Doh! That should read insideous, not indideous.
• United States
18 Feb 09
Thanks for the clarification.