Computer Help Please

Canada
February 15, 2009 8:38am CST
Keeping in mind I'm only on one forum which is myLot and I do Not download music or use my computer for anything too involved I need to know. Is it not a good idea to have updates turned off? I find when I allow updates my computer wants to slow way down. I always have my firewall shut off for updates. Now this morning I got a blue screen and something about checking ntf or something????? Thank You for any and all help. I know there's a lot of people on myLot that will be able to help me!!!
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25 responses
15 Feb 09
This is good idea........Just turn off windows updates.
@BarBaraPrz (19853)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
15 Feb 09
I wish I had done this. The last Windows update I did said I wasn't using a genuine copy, and continues to tell me this whenever I turn it on. It also changed some of my settings. This is on my secondary machine, so isn't that much of an aggravation, but...
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@savak03 (6681)
• United States
16 Feb 09
Barbara, If it wasn't too long ago do a system restore and oick a date prior to the update that caused the problem.
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• Philippines
21 Feb 09
thank you savak for sharing your technique on dealing with this problem. this will surely be of help to many of us around here.
@stephcjh (32328)
• United States
15 Feb 09
I always turn mine off. It always makes my computer go slow too and I have dialup. We do not need all of the updates anyway. I have firewall off too and just use my antivirus.
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• Canada
16 Feb 09
I have high speed but after updates I have turtle speed.
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• United States
16 Feb 09
Updates are more effective than AV software. Update manually.
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@raydene (9875)
• United States
15 Feb 09
Hi Sweets I have mine set so that it automatically goes to the updated version of an website I visit but the updates to programs I have on my computer are programed so that they have to ask me every time they want to update. I will then update when I'm finished doing what I am doing and allow it to shut down after. I don't know if that is a help. xoxoxxoxoxo
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• Canada
16 Feb 09
I'm always grateful to everyone Thank You raydene for your usual pleasant response.
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• Philippines
21 Feb 09
well, i can see that i saw your discussion a little too late, my friend. but there is no reason that i should regret it. everyone who has posted their thoughts about this issue are well versed on this matter. i will never come close. in fact, it was i who have learned much from out of the responses that came in for you, grandma.
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• Canada
21 Feb 09
You're never too late to answer any of my posts. You're a very dear and loyal friend. Thanks so much.
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• United Kingdom
16 Feb 09
There is one golden rule when it comes to computers and that is, you should always keep your automatic updates turned on. This means that whenever you are using your computer you can receive any important updates that you need from the Microsoft updates site. Also, it's absolutely compulsory to have your firewall constantly on. If you turn this off and you are online there's virtually a guarantee that you will pick up some kind of virus. I don't know the ins and outs of your computer problem but I'm assuming that you may have contracted some kind of virus. The fact that you have received the blue screen could be an indication of that. I keep my updates as well as my firewall constantly on. Do you have an antivirus product on your system? Also, do you have your original disks that came with your pc? The reason why I ask this is, if you are unable to do anything on your computer now it may be worthwhile reformatting your hard drive and reinstalling windows. Anyway, good luck, I hope that you manage to sort things out. Andrew
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• Canada
16 Feb 09
The blue screen with NTFS did a scan and everything went back to order so I don't know I guess because I run good anti virus (Norton & Webroot) maybe that's what saved everything. It's hard when you don't understand all this high tech. LOL Thank You Andrew
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@my1341 (460)
• China
16 Feb 09
Usually computer goes slow when you are downloading something and installing them. You need to upgrade your hardware in this case. Most probably computer slows due to virus and you need to clear them out with upgraded antivirus softwares. I don't think the firewall plays a role in your situation.
@savak03 (6681)
• United States
16 Feb 09
Criminy, not everything that causes slowdowns is caused by virus's. Why is that the first thing that everyone says?
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@tea512 (687)
• United States
15 Feb 09
You probably should keep them off, personally I have it set to tell when there are new one and I can choose which to take or not. If you going into the Control Panel under the Automatic Updates icon, you can choose "notify me about updates but dont automatically download or install them. Hopes this helps
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@jillmalitz (5132)
• United States
15 Feb 09
I always have my firewall on and keep up with updates. Microsoft is always having to fix something so updates are necessary. I also keep an up to date security suite with virus and adware protection. How often do you defrag your disk? Maybe you might have a corrupted file? Do you have a back up copy of your operating system? I don't really know what or how severe your problem might be. Sometimes if the computer acts up there is a way to restore it to a previous time.
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@fwidman (11515)
• United States
15 Feb 09
Not sure why you got the blue screen, that stinks I'm not sure why you turn the firewall off for these updates, I have a firewall and it is never off and Windows updates just fine, as do most other programs that update from time to time. With the firewall turned on it has to ask me if I wish to allow the company to update, except for Windows, that one just updates all by itself. It might be your laptop is getting older and slower, and I saw another commenter that gave some good advice about clearing things out, so I would start with that and go from there
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@Christoph56 (1508)
• Canada
16 Feb 09
I absolutly have mine turned off. I don't like the automatic updates because, just like for you, it slows everything down so much, not just when it's downloading them and setting them up, but it makes more programs running in the background of the computer, making everything slower, and you don't need the things they call updates. If you ever start using a program that needs an update to work, then you can get all the updates at once, rather then getting them bit after bit after bit. Saves a lot of time. I don't even have a virus scanner on all the time. Every so often, I use AVG to clean out everything at once, usually starting it up before I go to bed, and seeing what it did when I get up the next morning. There have been times I've gotten bad viruses, but when that happens, I disconnect it from the internet, and search on another computer to find out exactly what that virus is, and how to fix it. It's always worked just fine for me, never had to format my hard drive or anything for it, and I've only gotten viruses like that maybe 2 or 3 times over the past 10 years or so. Also, bad viruses like those most often come in software that you have to download and run on your computer, usually with a name calling them some sort of hacked game or program. If you never get those, for the worry that may happen, I doubt you'll ever really get a bad virus.
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• United States
16 Feb 09
Well, you use Windows all the time, and it always is needing updates... Coming from an IT professional, I leave Windows automatic updates on to save time.
• Canada
16 Feb 09
In the decade and a half that I've had my computers, I'd say theres only been about 3 or 4 times that I've really needed updates. Everything runs just fine without them, except for the odd program here and there... like, I needed an update to run GTA4, but thats just a video game, not a work program or anything.
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• Canada
16 Feb 09
Thank You for your response. I need you on my friends list to bail me on some of these issues. I appreciate your patience. darth eletius You've had your say and I've had mine now please back off. Thanks!!!
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• United States
16 Feb 09
You can leave automatic updates off, but update your computer manually. I would still recommend leaving automatic updates on. Unless you are behind a router, never turn your firewall off. If you have to in order to update, there is something wrong with your firewall configuration. Checking NTFS? That means something bad happened to your hard disk or Windows and Windows is verifying the integrity of your hard disk.
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• Canada
16 Feb 09
Thank You for your response BUT...Please do NOT add to my friends responses by questioning how much they know. penny78 was merely answering my post and I see your profile says you are only 18. I know there are some pretty intelligent 18 year olds but I don't appreciate the above comment. If you want to do well at myLot you will need to practice consideration for everyone. Thank You.
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• United States
16 Feb 09
Sorry, I did not mean to be rude. I often have a problem with that. I was merely trying to field where he had experience/what had taught him that auto updates are bad. Also, yes I am 18, and I am not claiming to be more intelligent than anybody else, but I have been in situations that have caused me to have more IT experience than many people, even some of my friends that are older network professionals.
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@user_786 (1338)
15 Feb 09
it is important to keep automatic updates on all the time. microsoft create updates for your Windows for security to prevent your PC from new viruses . your PC must slow down only when the downloads are installed, right? if you think your PC runs slow all the time, you should consider upgrading your PC
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• Canada
15 Feb 09
Thank You so much eeyore also recommended the same advice and after reading his post I did turn auto updates on. Actually after the updates have already been added is when I noticed how slow the computer got. I had the updates set for 3am so it wouldn't come on while I was trying to use the computer. The thing that made me believe it was the udates is because I have tons of memory as I run very little and I did have my computer checked twice. I have high speed and the speed is great with the updates shut off...BUT...I have had nothing but glitches. the blue screen as told above and I can't shut my computer down without going through the End Program two times and just different little stuff. Thank You for helping.
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• United States
15 Feb 09
I always have my updates and firewall turned ON. I do not want to leave my computer open to any viruses. Why look for trouble?
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@Polly1 (12649)
• United States
15 Feb 09
I have all my automatic updates turned on. I probably don't know any more then you do, so I hope you get your answer here. I am sure someone here will be able to help you.
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@knaphih (57)
• Australia
26 Feb 09
It would be better if you would keep them turned off. coz so called security updates wont protect you from hackers. its better to have an internet security package installed than windows updates..coz it slows down your system
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
23 Feb 09
You should keep your updates on. Crucial updates can help with bugs or found exploits within the operating system. If you do not update you run the risk of having your computer corrupted (it can happen through bad links, joke sites or emails). Are you still getting the blue screen? What precisely causes it? And about Ntf? Could it be NTFS? NTFS being a file system used by XP and Vista. Either way there may have been a corruption or the hard disk encountered an error of some sort. You may want to try a defragmentation of the drive to see if that helps anything. About your slowdown when updates are on. That happens because of its download speed and very likely the size of the update(s) being downloaded. You have to show patience and allow the updates to finish so your computer won't have to spend time and resources downloading them. Another thought, think about backing up your files in case its a hardware issue. From the sound of it, it seems like the harddrive might be getting worn out. Better safe than sorry.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
18 Feb 09
What I do is to allow updates, but only when they are critical. So that means they will only come on Update Tuesday or Wednesday. Also with the firewall, is there a setting that allows the Windows Critical updates to come through and no other? If not, make sure it is set for that and also if you have a setting that only allows updates from certain sites, put that on. You have to keep your firewall on. That is the problem. Oh and the regular Windows Xp or Vista firewall is good enough, you do not need to get another one.
• India
16 Feb 09
Well as much i kno abt computers.. u can hav ur updates off it doesnt matter .. but keep ur firewall on .. it helps to protect ur pc from virus nd spyware.. else if u hav ur antivirus fully updated den u can even turn firewalls off.. it helps to increase download speed..
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
16 Feb 09
I do know that if you have IE they do updates every month and you do need them. this are from microsoft that do Windows so you do need these they are fixit patches and such . Also my antivirus program does updates almost every day so I think ya need thios too.
@sunil_008 (1270)
• India
16 Feb 09
Hi, i don't think you should turn off the windows update,unless you have a not genuine microsoft windows os. updates are made to make the computer run better. i guess lots of people think that updates run their computer slow but only when downloading.after installation it makes computer better. so i would suggest you to download all the express downloads from the windows update site.and install them.techies in microsoft are getting paid for these things. well and the blue screen (ntfs) thing that you were saying about is a disk check thing before the windows starts. either you have opted for the disk check the last time you had your computer on. or normally windows does that after a crash shut down. ..:)