Office politics. No way to TOTALLY avoid them?

@ahgong (10066)
Singapore
February 15, 2009 11:37pm CST
I am sure office politics exists in every office around the world. It doesn't matter how big or small the office is. It is always there. It is a matter of how big a scale that office politics is played out. But it is there, regardless of race, religion, size, culture, customs... etc, as long as there is an office, there is bound to be politics. My question is, is it totally unavoidable? I mean, given that you are only interested to get your job done, and get paid to put food on the table, you are not interested in who gets what in the office. You just want to do your job and get home and not be embroiled in the politics that goes on in the office. But invariably, you cannot escape from in. So tell me, in your experience, is it possible to totaly avoid office politics?
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
16 Feb 09
Well, in the first place we must understand that politics involve people and politics is not only confined to running a country. It is the basic understanding of human behaviour. In an office for instance, office politics always top the agenda and it is how you manoeuvre yourself to get out of an office politics. If one has to spend all of one's time worrying about whether a work is going to please everybody, then there is no way that any sort of creative work can be done because the atmosphere is too oppressive. We are all suppose to work for the betterment of an organization which pays our monthly salary but if we are often involved in petty office squabbles we are only exposing the type of mentality we have and being disrespectful of one another.Everybody needs to work in a free and unpressured environment. Since I have left employment, I have no sweet bitter memories to share with you but can tell you that keeping silence and only do your work assigned to you, office politics will not create a strong impact in your life. It is just something that happens everyday of life. Without one the office will be a dull place to work. Office politics spice up the cold environment in an office.
@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
16 Feb 09
ha ha ha ha ha ... that is only a good way to view things if the office politics do not affect your standing in terms of advancing in your career. There are some who will manipulate the office politics such that you get drawn in as a pawn in their game to gain better promotion aspects. And when that happens, it is no longer exciting. It becomes war!
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
16 Feb 09
Let PEACE prevail. There is no permanent enemy in politics. As long as you know how to play the balls of the bosses your career will be taken care off.
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
And of all the games available in life, that is the toughest game to master! Life is already complicated as it is. People just have to make it more complicated with politics in the office! Sigh...
@tea512 (687)
• United States
16 Feb 09
This is a total mind set, when you are at work you have to play the game. It is the only way to get ahead and stay on the inside. Think of your job like being a person on a reality TV show like Survivor, the goal is to get the most money for you and must do whatever that takes. If you try to stay out of the fray there is no glory, remember a detail on each person, when you seethem ask about it, they will think you care. The more you can let everyone thin you care about them. The more you will be tuned inot the grid of being an important team member, even if you know it is only to get or stay ahead.
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Hmm... that is good advice indeed. I will keep this in mind when I get to the office the next time I meet people. A valuable insight indeed. Have you been practising this in your office? How is the outcome?
@tea512 (687)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Hello, Well full disclosure I meet my wife at a job. She was a CSR which dealt with directly. After we dated for a while she asked why everyone in upper management was talking to me when they never talked with anyone in CS. So I knew the system was working, a bigger surprise to her was how I thought people in CSR we not smart but none of them knew it. To this day she says how everyone thought I was this really nice guy.
@mojo76 (56)
• Bulgaria
16 Feb 09
if you want to get rid of this just take an AK-47 and kill the bloody bas----s. this is all they deserve. Thats how we gonna make them work like they should.
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
ha ha ha ha ha... tempting thought indeed! But that is not the way to resolve things. Violence begets more violence. And humans being humans, vengence will always be on their minds when they feel that they have been unjustly treated. And it is precisely because of this kinda mindset that many people who didn't want to get involved in politics, ended up more involved than they wanted to. Sad, isn't it?
@mojo76 (56)
• Bulgaria
17 Feb 09
absolutely, revolutions never end up good and lead to another one. but it is feels so good when imagining the scene.
• China
16 Feb 09
it's big deal for me, i had worked four years,i thought this question for long time. last year i quited, yes, i did, i am tired. i believe in simple rules, so i can't understand the office politics, i don't know the right line i should stand in,that's puzzled me. frankly speaking,i don't know how to avoid.
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Wow... The politics in your office must be really bad. So bad that you have to quit to avoid it! What happened that made it so bad you had to quit? So many people back stabbing each other to get ahead?
• China
17 Feb 09
that's my last job, my manager is a middle-age woman, you know, she's strange that she speak something and act another, you never konw what's her realy ask you do.at meantime she is stare at you hiding somewhere you don't know, if she found something is harm for her ,she will critical you, speak loudly long time, it's terrible, so i stay up one year,it's my limited, i had to quit bufore i am crazy.
@kun2349 (23475)
• Singapore
16 Feb 09
lol =D It's really unavoidable, be it where u are.. Because there are always things whereby one cant be completing on their own but needing the help of others too.. When that happens, everybody just wants some benefits for helping, and even advantages.. After all, all man are for themselves.. ANd espeically in office, there are always the 'old bird or new bird' system, and that's the real start of politics.. Because being a rookie, one cant afford to offend anybody, and thus overtime, we are automatically embroiled into it, without realising it.. UNless one is very good, and very much independant, if not, the chance is always there for one to fall into it..
@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
16 Feb 09
ha ha ha ha ha... This is what Agent Smith in the Matrix once said, "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery...." So true. So so true!
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@kun2349 (23475)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
lol =D Happiness comes in many forms.. Some ple will only be happy to see others fall.. lol =D so, how will the matrix gonna work when there's such a thinking in human minds?? lol =D
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Politics exist everywhere.. not only office have politics, not only country have politics, even school where kids went for education have politics too. as long as there is a community, there is human, there is politics. Why avoid? Politics is not exactly harmful though, it trains you how to be street-wise and smart, coping and handling with people, as well as situation in a diplomatically way. It will still come to you no matter how much you would like to avoid it. You only want a stable job, get your job done, but others may see you as someone easy to make used to get what they need or want. In office, all kinds of people exist, there is no friend in office. that's why we are known as colleagues, not friends when we introduced them to people. =D, make sense? Learn Politics, Accept Politics, Use Politics!
@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Yeah, that could well be the new motto of the day. Learn Politics, Accept politics and Use Politics! Yeah... you are so right too. As long as there is a community, there is politics. This is what Agent Smith in the Matrix once said, "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery...." So true. So so true!
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
im an HR practitioner and I can tell my past experiences taught me that office politics cannot in any way be removed in an organization...you just have to learn to live with it and learn to swim with the flow...even though you dont like it, you have to live with it coz its really part of our culture regardless of the race or country...Just try to be detached and if you can avoid giving your personal comment so as to avoid further conversation...
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
That is just one of the many ways to stay too involved. And yeah, like you said, there is no avoiding it.
@izathewzia (5142)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
Office politics are so strong that it can ruin your name and makes you lost your job. Better avoid getting involve and if it is unavoidable always stay on the safer side. Yes, it is unavoidable in a way since it is part of the life cycle of a worker already. Just learn to deal with it properly.
@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
That is the problem that I am talking about. Dealing with office politics properly. The key word here being PROPERLY. When we were studying to prepare our entry into the work force, there is no mentioned on office politics. And there is no guide on how to deal with the jerks and the butt holes that plays a dirty game in the office. And some office can be having such a bad case of office politics, it is tough to get any work done!
@thezone (9451)
• Ireland
17 Feb 09
I try ti stay away from it. It can be hard to avoid sometimes but I just ignore it most of the time. Little people with little jobs are the worst. I don't care for anyone too much, that I work with anymore
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
That is why I say office politics is a very draining thing to be involved in. Half of the energies we used at work is used to fend off these attacks and defences. Makes the office environment so tense to work in.
• Philippines
16 Feb 09
Office politics is a given thing . we can never live without it . i mean all offices has that and no matter what you do you cant see or find an office without that. And one way or another sooner or later you will find yourself involve with that even if it is unintentional
@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Yeah, that is exactly what I observed as well. I mean, they want to embroil in their little nick pick and office politics, by all means go ahead. Some people just want to get their jobs done and go home. No need to be involved in all that politics that goes on in the office. But some how, they will get you involved no matter how hard you try to avoid it. Sickening!
@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
16 Feb 09
You can work to minimize your involvement but there is always someone that wants to pull you in. The important thing in doing this is just that...check yourself at the door and pick it up on the way out. Companies hate this though because they are not getting your full worth. There's a big difference in having a body full of ideas and creativity versus a mindless body in motion. I think that it is possible to do so but with a lot of self control.
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@ahgong (10066)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Yeah... it is a struggle all the time. To do your job good and stay out of the political cat fights that is happening within the walls that you work in. And it can be really draining at times! What I do not understand is this. If you are all the time minding your own business, why do some one have to drag you into the middle of such a cat fight? You never crossed their paths. They should well keep clear of yours. No?