Experience? How can experience be learned if no one gives the person a chance?

@gemini_rose (16193)
February 16, 2009 8:55am CST
It is so frustrating for my hubby, he was made redundant last week from the job he had held for six years. We knew there was a chance of it happening so were making plans, one of the plans was my hubby learning a new skill, that new skill was obtaining his HGV Class 2 licence so that he could drive a lorry. Well he passed that 3 weeks ago, so now he has been made redundant he can look for jobs for this. He has applied for quite a few jobs and he keeps hitting the same brick wall, he has no experience they want people with a bit of experience behind them!! How can he gain this experience if no one will give him a chance????? It is so frustrating!! Has anyone else been in this sort of situation, turned down for jobs due to lack of experience? WHat is the most frustrating thing to happen to you lately?
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@dorypanda (1584)
16 Feb 09
I have had the same problem, when I left school, I decided to go on a training scheme, so as I'd have work experience AND gain a qualification or two and a little bit of money. Once I completed my training and tried to look for a job, I was told that even though I'd worked in the 'real' world, it didn't count as work experience as it was with a training scheme. Eventually I changed my CV to saying that I just worked at those places, I mentioned I was on a training scheme too, but not in the same bit. I eventually managed to get a job, even though I didn't have any 'real' experience. That's one reason why I'm back at college, that way, once I've passed my exams at the end, I can set up my own business, I can employ whoever I like and I know I'll almost always have a job, due to the nature of the business. I really hope your husband can find something, but I know job-hunting is difficult at the moment.
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@gemini_rose (16193)
17 Feb 09
Im thinking of doing some kind of course or something once the kids are a bit older and in full time school, use that time to gain some qualifications, but it has to be something that i can get into straight away work wise, I am not getting any younger after all!!!
@dorypanda (1584)
18 Feb 09
Age doesn't matter in some circumstances, I'm 34 and only started college last September, once I've completed my course, which ends in June, I'll be a fully qualified therapist with my own business, I can earn up to £80 per hour! But, that depends on which treatments people want and whether I can get clients or not too. Part-time and evening courses are usually available too. If you do decide to do a course, will you let me know please? (Just 'cos I'm nosey).;)
@katsmeow1213 (29043)
• United States
16 Feb 09
I think the problem is that so many people have been laid off lately, that they're all looking for new jobs, and many of them are over qualified for the jobs they're looking for. I saw this on the news recently, people with business degrees applying to be a waitress just because they need the job right now. All he can do is keep his head up and keep looking!
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@gemini_rose (16193)
16 Feb 09
Yes that is also going to be a big problem, the jobs available are also few and are being snapped up rapido, it is scary. The good thing about hubby is that if he cannot get the job he wants to do he will take anything, he wont let it go too long.
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• United States
16 Feb 09
Yeah, my husband isn't like that. He wouldn't just go flip burgers at McDonald's while waiting for something better to come along. He'd never settle on something he couldn't stick with for a long time. But he's like that in almost every aspect. Even with this move! Part of him would much rather just stay here in this house until we can afford a nice house, while I want to move now and continue to look for better options. He's still so young, but already set in his ways, while I'm still a free spirit who likes to constantly search for something better.
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@tudors (1556)
• China
16 Feb 09
My answer to your question is still affimative. one can still gain experience. why ? because being refused time after time, one must find some reason in oneself , why everyone refuses him. What's more, taking interview itself is kind of practice. I used to take some which I didn't really mean it. By doing so, when the golden chance comes, I can pay more attention to it and get the post i want.
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@gemini_rose (16193)
16 Feb 09
The only reason he is being refused is because he has only had the licence for 3 weeks and most places want a minimum of 2 years experience, he is never going to get that unless someone takes a chance on him.
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• Philippines
17 Feb 09
i feel that is the consequence of the current global crisis we are experiencing nowadays. companies will hire people who have experience over those with no experience and they feel they have to train newbies who are seen less productive compared to those who have prior working experience. it's not just your husband out there being treated like this. generally, it is hard to find work nowadays. hope this crisis passes so we can have stable jobs again
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@maezee (36508)
• United States
17 Feb 09
It's one of life's biggest ironies: Such as, "You need a job to get experience, but you need experience to get a job". I think eventually he'll find a job that will hire him, it's only a matter of time.
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@celticeagle (122414)
• Boise, Idaho
17 Feb 09
This is exactly why people lie on applications and such. Frustrating thing that has happened to me? How long do you have? My SSI check went to the wrong place and I am still waiting for it to arrive in my account. It was supposed to be there on the 3rd and I received incorrect information on how to navigate things and I am in a great fix. It is very frustrating and irritating as well!
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@maddysmommy (16233)
• United States
16 Feb 09
I hate it when they say that. The only way you're going to get experience is if they give you a chance. Our resumes tell them what we are capable of, and even though experience may not be there, our qualities and work ethics and work experience/history in other areas should show whether we are capable of learning the skills necessary to do the job. It should be enough, but sometimes it isn't. They need convincing and that is done at the interview. He needs to sell himself and somehow show his keeness and willingness to learn the skills necessary to do the job. My last job interview in Samoa was for a Snr Administration position in a bank. I had no bank experience but had a few years administration experience. Prior to that I had 10 years working experience in the library field. So I really didn't have that much compared to the rest of the interviewees. Language was a huge factor as most of the 17 Admin staff spoke Samoan and very little English. All paperwork was in English though (go figure). I had very limited Samoan and knew that was going to be a huge factor. My experience in the library industry helped me get in, my willingness and keeness to learn the skills required to get the job done, the fact that my working habits in my previous job also helped. I also thrive on challenges and am not scared to give anything a go. That showed through the interview and the next day they offered me the job. The next few weeks after I started were not, lets say welcoming. Ten other Snr staff members sent a letter to the CEO disputing my appointment. The fact that no-one knew who I was and what I was capable of, thought I shouldn't have been hired because several other long serving members that had been working at the bank for so many years, deserved the position, and not me. I was an outsider and noone knew who I was and what I was capable of. The panel did though and stuck to their decision and the CEO supported it. The sad thing about this is that it was instigated by my Aunty, my mothers half sister who also worked at the bank. I had not realised she worked there at the time though, I had not even met her LOL It worked out in the end, I got stuck in and made a lot of changes and showed how much of a hard worker I really was. They all saw it not long afterwards too. Hang in there, I know he'll find something soon :)
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@skysuccess (8881)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
gemini_rose, Just don't loose heart and even though you might be expecting the same answers from the next few interviews. Do up and improve that experience less resume and continue going around who knows he might be accepted eventually. It may not be soon now but it will be once the market feels that the experienced are all snapped up then they will be considering whatever is next better qualifier i.e. good working records, excellent testimonials and etc.. I am sure that you are aware that the workforce market is simply flooding on the supply side so you will just need to be patient and go about this level headed and one step at a time. So, just be positive minded and accept whatever is coming your way for now, as in the words of my favorite Dale Carnegie: "Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Take care and God bless.
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
P.S. You may want to try this website for help here. http://www.1job.co.uk/jobs/HGV-2-Driver/jobs.html Remember now, persevere!
@MsTickle (25058)
• Australia
17 Feb 09
Well tell him to offer his services somewhere free for a week. We do it over here in Australia all the time. It's called Work Experience and students do it...all students, not just school students. Lack of experience has always been a problem here too. Of course you have to find a willing company...even though you are not paid, you still have to be insured. I can totally understand not hiring someone without experience. Even the place he got his license should be able to set him up in a place to get some experience. As for not being paid...he's not earning now anyway so this would be an investment.
@mermaidivy (15407)
• United States
17 Feb 09
That's what I got frustrated when I was looking for my first job. All the job needs at least like 1-2 years experience then I was like if you don't give chances to people, how can we have "experiences"? You don't hav experiences doesn't mean you are not able to work... I don't know, it's really aggravating to me.
@enola1692 (3325)
• United States
17 Feb 09
my problem was education I worked since i was 17 in a store an when applying for a job at another store they wanted more education didn't matter I was working in the field for 10 years by that time doing the ordering of the stock an so on they wanted more college time so I stayed where I was at till I got married an had kids now I have another working title stay at home mom love my job
@scheng1 (24725)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
Since he can't go by the front door, try to go through the back door. Can he befriend the supervisors of those drivers? Can he get the supervisors to test him out for a short distance? Can he follow the other driver and gain some "real working" experience? Usually the company is more receptive if the supervisor or manager makes recommendation.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
17 Feb 09
I remeber posting something like this when I was out of a job a few years back. It seems every employer wants people with experience. Even when you have the qualifications to do the job, they still want experience. I mean, if you just learned a new skill, where in the world does experience come from if no one is willing to let you gain in thru work? I feel and understand the plight your husband is in. Fret not. He will find a better job than the one he last worked in. Just have to be a little more patient. And also not so choosy while searching for a permanent job. Any short term contract job that will put food on the table, take it. Good things come to those who wait. So keep sending out those resumes. Send my regards to your husband's search for a job.
@lingli_78 (12841)
• Australia
17 Feb 09
i agree with you on this matter... employers are always asking for experience during the interview... and if we say that we don't have any, then they will refuse us... it happens to a lot of my friends and i think it is not fair... like you say, if we are not given the chance, where can we get the experience??? that's why i think it is very important to start to work during the university years to gain experience... even as an apprentice... it will add up to your resume and help you to find jobs easier when you graduate... good luck to your hubby... hopefully he will be able to find another job soon... take care and have a nice day...