More orwellian ideology from the new administration

@xfahctor (14111)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
February 20, 2009 10:48am CST
How about a gps that tracks your car and tells the federal government how many miles you traveled so they can tax you on it. Sound rediculous? WEll here it is. From the Transportation secretary, former Illinois Republican lawmaker, Ray LaHood. ..."Gasoline taxes that for nearly half a century have paid for the federal share of highway and bridge construction can no longer be counted on to raise enough money to keep the nation's transportation system moving, LaHood said in an interview with The Associated Press." "We should look at the vehicular miles program where people are actually clocked on the number of miles that they traveled,"....... http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=43856
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@spalladino (17927)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I don't like the idea of tracking the movements of American citizens for *any* reason. It seems to me that the expense of setting up and implementing something like this would be prohibitive unless they expect the consumers to pay for the device and individual station owners to pay for upgraded pumps.
@spalladino (17927)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Update: I heard on the radio a little while ago that President Obama does not support this idea. Don't know if that will change but that's the latest 411.
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@murderistic (2280)
• United States
20 Feb 09
That is absolutely ridiculous, we are already taxed on gas. I can't imagine this will do much good for the hybrid car industry if people are going to be taxed by the mile anyway. Not to mention the fact that nobody wants their car to be tracked by the government. Something like a price floor on gasoline.. that would actually make sense. It will be a lot easier for families and businesses to budget if they are sure that the price of gas won't go down.
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@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
20 Feb 09
This story was in the Miami Herald months ago. I thought I'd started a thread on it then, but maybe I forgot. Either way it pissed me off beyond all belief. It's nobody's Godd@mn business how much I drive or where I drive to. Oh yeah, I remember the big thing I brought up about this. They want to raise taxes, to waste billions of dollars in taxpayer money on this massive ridiculous system that invades our privacy, so they can use it to raise taxes to fund highway improvements. So even beyond the Orwellian bit, which is very applicable to this, it's a massive waste of money designed to steal more of our money. Does anyone else see how stupid it is to raise taxes to fund something to raise taxes?
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Xfahctor, This "big brother" mentality just brings this country ever closer to the brink of her second civil war or revolution, whichever one suit your purpose. I wonder how many people will be "surprised" at this inevitable outcome of a forced socialistic government? By the way; is it just me or do I remember the liberals crying fowl very loudly when GWB instituted wire-taps without warrants? Talk about a double standard on invasion of privacy!
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@xfahctor (14111)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Feb 09
I think we need to get by the republican/democrat mentality now rodney. Your right, there is a double standard, but we need to move past that. The guy who proposed this was a republican. It is moving towards being bigger than dems vs repubs. It is becomming the government vs the people.
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@anniepa (26459)
• United States
21 Feb 09
Thank you, X, for pointing out that it was a Republican who proposed this atrocious idea! You're right, this is beyond Democrat versus Republican, just as I thought the wiretaps were. Annie
@debrakcarey (19925)
• United States
9 Oct 09
Oh I am so glad to hear you both say this! Now, we all realize that if it has entered the realm of political debate...sooner or later it will find it's way into the law books...especially since it is in the favor of government taking more taxes out of our pocketbooks. As far as it being to expensive to impliment...how so? Make it mandatory that cars are built with the gps system, which is more possible now that the car makers are answerable to the government...and the fact that some new models have already been equipt in such a mannter...all that is needed is more government beaurocrats to over see it.
@sid556 (31018)
• United States
21 Feb 09
Thankfully, it is not going to happen. Obama nixed it.
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@mscott (1925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
They shot down the idea for today at least. They will just tax gas more instead it seems. Nothing like helping the economy by encouraging people not to drive to work or vacation or even the store to shop. I guess so many people are angry that we are going to bail out all the people who took bad loans on houses that they couldn't afford. I guess it is only selected socialism since all of us who did what we should have won't be getting any help, just screwed.
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@suspenseful (40326)
• Canada
26 Feb 09
Are you sure he is a Republican? Maybe he joined the Republican to undermine it. I do not like the idea. It would discourage travel. Then only the rich people can leave their cities and towns. The rest of you will have to walk to where you want to go. And could not this be used to track where you go if you were to go somewhere that they do not want you to go? Like what if someone knew someone who lived in an area with a lot of crime, then the gps could be used against him to make the police believe he was friends with criminals, so this is more then making sure you do not take any long trips unless you are flush with cash.
@xfahctor (14111)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
27 Feb 09
One thing I learned was that it no longer matters what party it is. Both the big brand parties are pretty much the same and have nearly equal disrguard for the constitution and the principals of our founders. Like I said in a post in this thread up the line a bit, it is no longer just a matter of democrat vs republican, it is becomming the people vs the federal government
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@suspenseful (40326)
• Canada
27 Feb 09
It is too bad that there is no more integrity. I do not say that every member of the parties are selfish and power mad, but the ones who are honest and aboveboard and who are interested in the welfare and the up building of America are few. Not only that it is that people prefer someone who has charm, is shallow, and does what they want to the detriment of the United States constitution. Maybe it should be compulsory for every candidate for presidency as well as those who want to be in Congress, plus judges, etc. to read the whole Constitution so they can find out how far they should go and what they cannot mess with.
@anniepa (26459)
• United States
21 Feb 09
Thankfully I also heard that President Obama has come out against this idea. I sure HOPE he holds to it because that is absolutely outrageous and not only because of the money. I've felt kind of uneasy about these GPS devices from the time I've known of their existence; it's great to have something to help you when you're lost or to give you directions but the idea that somebody is watching me gives me the creeps. The Post Office had started using them to track the carriers several years ago before I left. They supposedly were not to be used for disciplinary actions but that was a crock, it was a way to keep track of where we were at all times. Technology can be a wonderful thing but in the wrong hands it's pretty scary stuff. Annie