When Is That Illegal?

@gtargirl (5376)
United States
February 26, 2009 1:59pm CST
So the neighbor to my left doesn't work . . . but he has just bought the house and owns about four cars. Then one day he had a yard sale--pool tables, Bow Flex and other exercise equipment, heavy duty yard and demolition equipment . . . what the hey? There's even a cage of sorts. I think we could have an extreme fighting competition in it. Anyone? Anyhow, there's people strolling in all day, especially on the weekend, because it seems he is open for business from his garage. Question: Is this not illegal? By the way, our neighbor across the street is a police officer. They seem to be pals. Mmmmmm.
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
2 Mar 09
No Cage fighting,thanks,I'd be more into mud wrestling Sorry to hear about your break ins..anything recognisably distinctive taken?So this is an ongoing thing with new inventory appearing? I don't know about business licenses or what might be required for regular/ongoing garage/yard sales.. I don't think there's any harm in a one off sale,but if it was continuing,it could be causing traffic disruption over time..
@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
4 Mar 09
Oh mud wrestling is a possibility too. With all the rain here in the desert we are now a big mud bath. FUN!!!! Anyhow, as of today, would you believe, the yard sale has finally stopped. It seems the last of his furniture has been sold and the street is back to normal for the cows and coyotes to cross. Of course, having said that, it looks like he hasn't been home since and his truck is awol. Probably out hunting for new deals. Ah well, he has turned out to be a nice neighbor. And so it goes.
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@sandymay48 (2030)
• Canada
26 Feb 09
Hi gtargirl....I think you should go over and meet your new neighbour if it bothers you that much, Maybe he has something for sale that you want.....Then again maybe hes selling something you dont want. As long as hes a good neighbour, I wouldnt worry about what he does. I hardly have time to worry about what I do!!
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
27 Feb 09
Very true SandyMay. We did go over and talk. He's very sweet. Looks like a single dad. It isn't bothering me so much anymore. As a matter of fact I got worried for his stuff because he leaves it out on his lawn overnight. It's been raining on and off here. Anyhow, have a great weekend, my friend.
• United States
26 Feb 09
Depending on local zoning laws I'd say yes it is illegal. If the area is not tagged as "commercial" running a business which is open to the public is illegal. Then there is the business license angle. Most local and state governments require a business license to operate. It would also be illegal if he is not reporting the income on his taxes. The police probably wouldn't get involved unless someone got hurt on the property or someone turned him in. I've seen that happen here only once. Someone who lived up the street held a "yard sale" every weekend for 6 months until the neighbors turned them in. They probably would have gotten away with it except some of the neighbors were getting tired of cars blocking their driveways every weekend. When the police went in to check on the situation they discovered that some of the merchandise turned out to be stolen! Not too smart!
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
26 Feb 09
Yeah, we're not in a commercial zone of any sort. If he does have a business license I believe it has to be displayed, and we don't see a license. But even so, the daily yard sale thing is what I was questioning. There is the cars blocking our street but it's not been too much of a hassle . . . so far. People are in and out pretty fast so I'm guessing they are calling in ahead of time. Just strange. Hope he's legit.
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@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
26 Feb 09
I wouldn't worry about it until/unless your stuff starts to come up missing LOL
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
26 Feb 09
Hehehehe, I was checking it out, Golden Eagle. We've been robbed twice and a few nights ago, we woke up to an open garage door again. But I won't go as far as accusing him. They do seem like a sweet family.
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@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
2 Mar 09
In America, it's usually not illegal to hold a yard sale. However, I have lived in several places where you were required to purchase a temporary business license so that the state and community would at least have something for sales taxes.
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• United States
26 Feb 09
Where I live in the county and not in the town, you can open a business in your garage. In one town I am close to you can only have two yard sales a year, I do not know about the other. It depends on your location.
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
26 Feb 09
I'll have to check into the garage business deal. That would be kind of sweet. I was thinking though that a yard sale could only be done a few times a year. But who knows.
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@GardenGerty (157481)
• United States
8 Apr 09
Whether or not this is illegal depends on whether or not your city has an ordinance against perpetual yard sales. Is it possible he buys and re sells? It is possible the cops look the other way because of his friendship with them?
• Canada
8 Mar 09
I don't see anything illegal about a yard sale. If the posessions being sold are all legally owned by your neighbour, I don't see what the problem is. It would be different if he was selling exotic animals, or stolen goods. These items sound pretty big for a yard sale, but I don't see a problem with the act itsself.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
26 Feb 09
I have no clue if it is illegal or not, you can always call the police station not give your name and just enquire about it.
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@BarBaraPrz (45433)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
27 Feb 09
The police would most likely refer you to city hall, as this would be more of a by-law issue than a criminal one.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
27 Feb 09
yard sale not illeagle. Even if they have it every day of the week!
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
27 Feb 09
It would seem kinda weird, but I see from the other discussions that you've eased your mind a bit about it. There are so many things that people do out of their house any more that it's really hard to tell what's legal and what's not. Hopefully he's talked to the right people about any zoning and licensing because it can be expensive if he's not going by the book.
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@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
27 Feb 09
Legal or illegal, news flash, if he is buddies with the local cop, you are barking up the wrong tree. If it's not interferring with your property, and the street is not blocked to traffic..........you'd probably be just as well off just ignoring it. Even if he is into something illegal, if he's got the cops on his side, you won't get anywhere by complaining. Just keep things locked up on your property. However, if you are just curious about having a garage business, then by all means check into it.
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
27 Feb 09
Yeah, I hear ya. The cop is a pretty nice guy too. We're all kind of happy neighbors . . . everyone knows everyone. Which can be dangerous at times. He's blocking the sidewalk a little but he also lets the kids play on anything he has out there . . . basketball hoops, exercise equipment etc. So our kids are happy!
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@Starwulf (43)
• United States
27 Feb 09
People are into all sorts of things. I say, live and let live as long as no one imposes their views on you, or treats you any less than you expect to be treated. Just remember to treat them with the same respect in-kind. If you are really curious, ask, don't assume stuff. Then be honest about how you feel about it. Maybe the two of you will end up being better neighbors afterwards, even if you don't see eye-to-eye.
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
27 Feb 09
We did. We went over and introduced ourselves. He bought our pool table . . . LOL! He's got around four of them. Ours was really nice, and it doesn't look like he's reselling it just yet. He and his kids are adorable, well the kids are. I'm just checking into the laws and zoning stuff that's all. We actually got fined for having our trashcans out a day after trash day with a nice note from the city. And my other neighbor got fined for parking his truck in his driveway. But we're just watching to see if anything happens to this new guy. We're buds, at least, and life out here is slow enough not to worry about the small stuff.
• Lubbock, Texas
26 Feb 09
That depends on the city and it's zoning laws. In some towns, you can have an ongoing "garage sale" all the time, and in others you're limited to so many weekends per year. If the zoning laws permit it he may very well be operating a "home business" out of his garage legally.
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@rsa101 (37933)
• Philippines
27 Feb 09
Well before we could finally say its illegal you have to show some proof first that what he has in his house is illegal. I think this guy has some kind of money making business to afford this things and sell them if he feels so.
@stacyv81 (5903)
• United States
27 Feb 09
Maybe they used to have a lot of money and with the financial issues, they need to sell it all. While, it is only allowed a few yard sales a year, it isnt illegal to sell in newspapers or trading papers, or online...so maybe he is doing that and people are coming over to look at and buy what he is selling on one of those things? Maybe, just trying to look on the good side =)
@di1159 (1580)
• United States
27 Feb 09
Most of the time you would need some kind of permit to conduct that sort of business. At least if he is selling items for profit, he would need to collect tax and remit that and have some kind of occupational license, along with proper documentation, etc etc. I'm sure he has none of it. My neighbor was fixing old cars in his driveway and then reselling them. It didn't bothe me, but I guess someone reported it and now he has a fence and parks the cars inside on the grass where it's not in plain view. I'm sure he would be subject to some kind of fine if reported and it continued.
@tmae87 (17)
• United States
27 Feb 09
I am pretty sure it's okay to open a business in your garage. It's the same as a home business. As long as he has a business license. Which I beleive is required for everyone no matter where you live. I'd be curiouse to know what he does! It does sound very fishy!! He seems to be living a pretty good life for a business out of his garage. Maybe you should just chat him up and ask what his business is. Just be neighborly. I think curiousity would've got me a long time ago! But if he's friends with the police...and obviously friends It's probably legit. If it wasn't and they were friends...you wouldn't know they were friends..and the guy would probably not stay living accross the street from a cop!
• United States
27 Feb 09
There are some legit business you can do at home, that don't have anything to do with being illegal. But who knows, in this day and age anything is possible.