Does America owe Great Britain a huge apology for Obama's ...???

@ladyluna (7004)
United States
March 6, 2009 9:38am CST
To all Americans and our global brethren abroad, Do you think that America owes Great Britain an apology? I believe that every American should be embarrassed by Obama's first reception of a foreign dignitary. Allow me explain ... As shocking as it is to believe; Obama 'dissed' the British Prime Minister, and the People of Great Britain, one of our most cherished allies -- not once, not twice, but three times -- all in a matter of a three weeks! First, Obama returned the Winston Churchill bust that was loaned to GW Bush, in stewardship for the American People (read about the specifics below). Then, Obama failed to come clean about his boneheaded 'plan' to not extend to Prime Minister Brown the traditional (full dress) joint press conference in the East Room. Then, the third 'dis' showed Obama to be the oaf that he really is: Obama ponied up a caddish, cheezy gift that probably could have been purchased from any "KMart" to P.M. Brown's very classy, very thoughtful, very traditionally respectful gifts. My goodness, shouldn't every official dignitary of every global ally be treated with traditional respect and honors? How would the people of France, Germany, Sweden, Japan, or the Phillipines react if the US President snubbed their heads of state? ___________________________________________________________________________________ "Mr Brown's gifts included an ornamental desk pen holder made from the oak timbers of Victorian anti-slaver HMS Gannet, once named HMS President. Mr Obama was so delighted he has already put it in pride of place in the Oval Office on the Resolute desk which was carved from timbers of Gannet's sister ship, HMS Resolute. Another treasure given to the U.S. President was the framed commission for HMS Resolute, a vessel that came to symbolise Anglo-US peace when it was saved from ice packs by Americans and given to Queen Victoria. Finally, Mr Brown gave a first edition set of the seven-volume classic biography of Churchill by Sir Martin Gilbert." http://www.ask.com/bar?q=obama%27s+cheesy+gifts+to+gordon+brown&page=1&qsrc=19&zoom=How+Can+I+Contact+Gordon+Brown+MP%7CGordon+Brown+Estate+Agents%7CGordon+Brown+MP&ab=3&u=http%3A%2F%2Fminx.cc%2F%3Fpost%3D283816 So Obama thought it appropriate to give the Prime Minister of our most valued ally a collection of DVDs of 25 classic American films. D'oh, not even Blueray! Finally, to our very cherished British allies and friends across the pond, please don't think as low of all Americans as you are most surely feeling about Obama right now. Obama's pathetic, oafish gaff has not gone unnoticed. While it is, for the most part, being ignored by the main stream media (which means that once again the mainstream media is ignoring the foreign press, as this story is all over the British media), that big, 'ol meanie Rush Limbaugh has been chiding Obama's inexperience and total lack of dignity in this regard over the airwaves. Which of course means that at least twenty(+) million Americans are hanging our heads in shame over Obama's inexcusable behavior toward Britain. We humbly ask that you accept our most sincere apology. Please remember that more Americans didn't vote for Obama than did (40% of all Americans didn't vote in November, and among the 60% who did, nearly 50% of that 60% voted against Obama). From Limbaugh's website -- his commentary about and background material relating to this International blunder: • This Is London: Obama's Blockbuster Gift for Brown: 25 Classic Films • American Thinker: Obama Disses Brit PM • Reuters: Obama Plans to Boost Security Aid to Abbas's Forces • UKT: Was 'Lady Macbeth' Behind Barack Obama's Snub of Gordon Brown? http://www.ask.com/bar?q=obama+disses+brown+on+press+conference&page=1&qsrc=0&zoom=How+to+Organise+a+Press+Conference%7CHow+to+Conduct+a+Press+Conference% Below are the details about the Churchill bust for anyone who would like to read the specifics: [i][b]"Sunday, February 15, 2009 Obama disses the British Telegraph reported A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back. The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure. But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."[/b][/i] http://www.ask.com/bar?q=obama+dissed+the+british+people&page=1&qsrc=0&zoom=Obama+for+President%7CIs+Barack+Obama+Muslim%7CBarack+Obama%27s+Religion&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdonsingleton.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F02%2Fobama-disses-british.html 7CHow+to+Hold+a+Press+Conference&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rushlimbaugh.com%2Fhome%2Fdaily%2Fsite_030509%2Fcontent%2F01125107.guest.html "Also, the first couples are not meeting together. Normally they have lunch, but Michelle Obama's entertaining Gordon Brown's wife in the crayon room in the White House or wherever they're doing it, but there's no social event planned at all, and the UK daily headline: "'Downing Street Left Embarrassed after President Obama Scales Down First Meeting with Brown.' -- Downing Street was left scrambling to avoid a diplomatic embarrassment today after the White House ruled out a formal press conference to mark Gordon Brown's first formal meeting with Barack Obama. Officials denied the Prime Minister was being snubbed after it emerged that the new president would not make himself available for the traditional joint appearance before the White House media." They did bring cameras in the Oval Office for a while, which they always do. "Mr Brown's aides are trying to make the best of what is a distinctly low key visit compared to the family hospitality lavished on Tony Blair by George Bush when they met for the first time." ____________________________________________________________________________________ [b]What say you? Do Michelle and Barack Obama need to enroll in an Emily Post etiquette course? Criminies, this stuff matters a great deal in the world in International Relations![/b]
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@dogsnme (1239)
• United States
6 Mar 09
I would like to apologize to the British people for our electing of an individual who is shaping up to be the most pathetic example of a U.S. President this country has ever seen.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello Dogsnme, Unbelievable, isn't it?
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@dogsnme (1239)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Ladyluna, it is unbelievable. I mean, here is someone many Americans...not myself, however...voted for because he was...to sum it up in a few short words...to them, an icon of respectability. He was everything, or so they thought, a politician wasn't. I remember one thing that people, who didn't like Bush, accused him of being, was arrogant. And, to pull this kind of stunt in exchanging gifts with the British PM puts Bush's arrogance to shame. And, all this time Obama has been harping about how he wants to improve America's appearance to the rest of the world. I guess he figured, since we were already in pretty good standing with the Brits, that he might as well destroy that relationship just like he's destroying the economy and everything else he touches.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
7 Mar 09
Thanks for the follow-up, Dogsnme. Yeah, I guess this is (maybe) one way to improve our international reputation. Although, I've gotta' say that dis'sing our valued allies is pretty low on my "To Do" list.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Mar 09
WOW.....O~o just um......yeh.....um...... wow...... I litteraly felt sweat on my forhead and my face get a little warm on reading this. I am not one to normaly apologize to ANYONE in the world for my country, it goes against certain principals, how ever, I have to say, as an american citizen and a human being, from one human being to others, um......please understand that this does not reflect the class of most of us and that I am personaly embarrased by it.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello X, I completely empathize with your reaction. I cannot recall a time in our nations history where our 'head of state' acted with so little propriety. And to think, we have placed our nation's trust in this guy's ability to negotiate with people like Vladimir Putin, and Mahmoud Ajmadineejad, when he doesn't even have a rudimentary understanding of art of diplomacy! Good grief!
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@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
6 Mar 09
DVDs? He was given unique and priceless gifts with unbelievable historical significance and he gave the Prime Minister of our greatest ally DVDs? I am at a loss for words...
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
I completely understand being speechless, Taskr! It would seem that when we peel away the expensive suits, "Mr. Kool", "Mr. Urbane", "Mr. Suave & Debonair" is really "Mr. Tacky". And now, all of America is positioned to have to apologize for his lack of propriety. I see below that Michelle committed the same kind of inexcusably tacky snub with the exchange of gifts for the children. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really beginning to miss having 'grown ups' in the White House. Can you imagine Laura Bush snubbing a foreign dignitary???
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6 Mar 09
Hmm... I'm from Great Britain and I do think we deserve and apology. This is a bit... umm... Embarassing for you guys I guess (: Though all who have apologized I thank! Alsoooo, I must say, it was an interesting read... Very long though :P Once again thank you (: Have a nice day ladyluna! ~ James
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello James, Yes, it is embarrassing for us. I apologize for the length of the post. Though to be sure, without sufficient corroboration Obama's adoring fans would surely have contested the facts. Please remember that the American mainstream media has really not covered these incidences. Oh and welcome to MyLot. I hope that you thoroughly enjoy our little online community.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Mar 09
I think though that apology should come from Mr. and Mrs Obama themselves and I didn't vote for him anyways. But just know that many of us here are embarrassed by it and think it demonstrated an utter lack of class, protocall and decorum and that we, the american people, the ones really in charge, the REAL heads of state, wish to express our gratitude and sincere friendship to your country and it's people. If I could afford more appropriate tokens of such sentiments, know they would already on their way to you. This is not how we do business here and I am going to personaly write the whitehouse and DEMAND he apologize to your country.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Here, here, X!
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@jonesy123 (3951)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Wow, what an utter and total embarrassment. Let me add this: Mrs. 0bama accepted Mrs. Brown's costly and well thought-out gifts for the Obama children ( Top Shop dresses with matching necklaces, and a selection of British-authored books). Mrs. 0bama's gift for the Brown children: $15 Marine One playsets from the White House gift shop. Oh, and the return of the bust... well Obama told them that there was no space for that in the Oval Office. Couldn't have found another spot for it somewhere in the White House or National Library.... somewhere? Nope. But strangely enough, he did find room in the oval office for a wooden statue of a hand holding an egg that's called 'The Magic Egg of Power'. He got that in Kenya while visiting his cousin Raila Odinga,
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• United States
6 Mar 09
Um let me get this straight....Mrs. Brown got the girls nice clothes and age appropriate books and all the brown children got were white house gift shop toys? Wow. This has to be on purpose. The Obama's are sending a message that during their admin America and England will not have as close of a relationship as they have had in the past. Which is bad because they have been a good ally to us.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Mar 09
Lil, what I am HOPING is that what they are trying to say is that they are trying to be frugal in tight times (though his economic policies sceam otherwise) and exercize a scale back on lavishness........ sigh, I know I'm just grasping at straws here.
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@jonesy123 (3951)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Mmmh, lavish Wednesday dinner/cocktail parties at the White House with $100 steaks and top entertainment... comparing that to being a cheapskate when it comes to handing presents to high profile foreign visitors... Nope, sorry x, not buying the trying to be frugal bit;) But lil, you may be on to something. However, if they snub Britain, the relationship with the EU will suffer, too. Maybe that's part of the new world order he wants to accomplish... It ain't looking good!
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
6 Mar 09
I don't think that an apology from the American people is going to suffice. We cannot undue the idiocy and the arrogance of this man. I used to think that Bush was arrogant, but Obama gives new meaning to the word. We elected the definition of an empty vessel with a pretty exterior. He likes the "pretty toys" that he has been given, but has no concept that he is supposed to return in kind! He will never make a statesman until he learns diplomacy. As of now, he still has no concept of the word and those around him must not be getting through to him or do not deem it important enough to try. Shalom~Adoniah
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Excellent points, my friend. "empty vessel" -- how sad is it that your description failed to gain appropriate recognition before election day? People really believed that this man was the do-all and end-all of diplomacy. Now, he blows his first ever state visit, and what are those adoring fans saying now? Are they still believing that this cad can talk Vladimir Putin out of attempting to forcefully re-conquer Hungary, Poland, Georgia and the other former Eastern Soviet satellites? And, is Hillary expected to ride in to the rescue? Sheesh, she blew a state visit gift to a Russian diplomat Sergei Lavrov just this morning. Our Secretary of State couldn't be bothered to get the inscription right. What does that say about this administration??? [i][b]"GENEVA, March 6 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov with a red "reset button" to symbolise improved ties, but the gift drew smiles as the word "reset" was mistranslated into the Russian for "overcharge". Clinton joked to Lavrov: "We worked hard to get the right Russian word. Do you think we got it?" "You got it wrong," said Lavrov, smiling as the two pushed the reset button together before dinner at a Geneva hotel. He told Clinton the word "Peregruzka" meant "overcharge", to which Clinton replied: "We won't let you do that to us."[/b][/i]http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSN06402140 [b]UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
6 Mar 09
The American people really did not have any choice in this election just as in the last election. Somehow the election process is really out of our hands now. It does not matter who runs. The "control" person is the one who will win no matter what. Now that the internet is in the mix, the average Joe will never ever be able to win an election nor will the "Good Guy". Just as this "Stimulus Bill or Porky Pig Bill" will pass, no matter how many letters and faxes and emails the general public sends. We have no say in anything. Others are in control, but we are the losers as will eventually be the whole world. Shalom
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
What do you mean by the "control person"?
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@irishidid (8103)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Let's look at possible gift choices for the Queen if she happens to visit: The Cheese of the month club. Pizza Hut coupons (personally clipped by Michelle herself) Dinner for two at any burger joint (drinks not included)
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• United States
6 Mar 09
Happy meals and toy?
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
! Oh my, I definitely shouldn't have been trying to swallow when I read your reply, Irishidid!!! The cheeze of the month club??? Geesh, how 'bout a coupon to "Family Dollar"?
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@irishidid (8103)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Other gift ideas: Obama Chia pet head
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
6 Mar 09
I am willing to bet that McCain or Palin either one would know how to treat foreign dignitaries when they came to visit... especially if they were one of our closest allies. Once again, the 0bamunist has proven himself to be unqualified for the responsibility that he was given. This is a fine example of the 0bamunist's lack of class, his naivety, and his inexperience... and it is showing through for all to see. The 0bamunist has no class... it is all crass... and he is plainly out of his element. You do not disrespect heads of state when they come to visit, and it shows that he does not take his job seriously. You can bet the he would roll out the red carpet for leaders from Iran, Hamas, and all them other Muslim terrorist states though.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello Destiny, "out of his element". Geesh, what does that say about his "element"? If neither Michelle nor he are particularly good at picking out gifts, don't ya' thnk that any one of the White House aids, Historians, Decorators, etc... could have been consulted? You know what, I'm confident that you're right about the red carpet for terrorist heads of state. Remember ... "Not long ago reviled as a terrorist, Yasser Arafat yesterday came to the Oval Office as a national leader in his own right, pledging to stick to his agreements with Israel, and pleading for more US and international aid for the Palestinian people. He has been to Washington three times since his handshake of peace with Yitzhak Rabin at the White House in 1993, but never before by himself. Previous meetings here with President Bill Clinton were essentially ceremonial. But this one-hour, one-on-one business session with Mr Clinton meant more - a symbol of how the Palestinian leader is now a ..." http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-4786387.html "President Clinton's formal invitation of the world's principal terrorist, Yassir Arafat, to visit the White House is illegal under our domestic law." www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/arafatbio.html
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
6 Mar 09
This is one time when Obama should be in his element. He was raised by well to do Grandparents. He lived in a well to do community. I am sure that expensive gifts were exchanged from time to time. His wife certainly dresses fit to kill and his kids do too. His suits are made of silk. I mean the man knows quality, so don't tell me that suddenly he is from the poor side of town and doesn't know how to pick out a decent return gift. Shalom
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
That is a very fair criticism, Adoniah! The 'other side of the tracks' argument might fly for Michelle, but definitely not for Barack Obama. Honolulu was an expensive place to live even in the 1960s. I know 'cause my family lived there at that time! Never mind the fact that he attended THE most 'elite', priviledged, private school on the island. I read somewhere that his average suit costs $1200.00 And, Michelle is wearing the most expensive designer outfits. So, the whole $15.00 gifts from the White House Gift Shop is pathetic, at best!
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• United States
6 Mar 09
This kind of behaviour may not mean very much to the average American but being British born I can assure you that the Brits take this as the ultimate sign of disrespect and ignorance....a real insulting slap in the face. I even got a phone call from one of my relatives asking me who did Obama think he was dealing with? I had no excuse I was too ashamed!
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@jonesy123 (3951)
• United States
6 Mar 09
This is not proper in the US either. I suppose Obama still didn't learn to answer that 'three o'clock phone call'. This is highly embarrassing.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello Whiteheather, Thank you for chiming in on how utterly offensive this kind of behavior is to our British friends. The next time you speak with your relative, please do offer our sincerest apologies. And if you would, would you please explain that we're not all a bunch of cads.
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• United States
7 Mar 09
Thank you both so much. Actually I think some of my relatives are kind of rubbing my nose it in because I became an American citizen and they got sick of my bragging about my life here in the States.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Maybe PM Brown should have given Obama a hint by giving him a framed copy of Winston Churchills birth certificate.
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@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
6 Mar 09
lol
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello Us2owls, OK, now that I've composed myself -- Do you think he'd 'get it'?
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Awesome!! A couple of Degrees would be nice too! Shalom
• United States
6 Mar 09
wow. uh....wow...I am in shock. But if you think about it it sets the tone for his admin. He is getting all kind of things from us the american people (namely our money to spend how he pleases and waste and constitutional rights) and all he is going to give us in return is huge debt and a tax break that gets us around $16.00 a paycheck. Wow talk about an unfair trade. But I will give Obama a nod for constitancy....he takes as much as he can get and gives little back to the american people... and with foreign heads of government. He treats us all the same. I am sorry Great Britain. You are a good friend to this country and you deserved to be treated better than that. Please do not think all of us are as bad as this president (or our last one). Man I thought I was done with apolozing for our president. I felt I had to say I am sorry about Bush.....now less than two months in to Obama I am already apologizing for him...it is going to be a long long four years.
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• United States
6 Mar 09
I do not usually do this but after looking into it further i wanted to add something. With the slight to Mr. Brown, Mrs. Brown and the Brown children, not to mention to hte people of England in general....this has got to be on purpose and calculated. THe Obama's are sending out a message that his administation is not going to be a close ally of England. I am not saying he does not want to be an friend to England...just not as close of a friend as they have been in the past. My questions is why? Why is Obama distancing himself from Great Britain? What purpose will it serve him? Anyone know if he has given lavish gifts to other countries? It would be useful to know who he is chummy up to and who he is distancing himself from.
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@jonesy123 (3951)
• United States
6 Mar 09
You might be on to something. This definitely seems to be an attempt to put Britain in its place... but if they snub Britain, they snub part of the EU,... maybe it's all part of the new world order plan... Could also be that Obama hasn't yet learned to answer that 'three a.m. phone call', lol. As to presents to other countries... he went to visit Canada and should have presented something... but I can't find what.
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@deejean06 (1953)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hi Lady! I can't believe this - is this the way we are winning over the European countries? Wasn't the huge outcry that the Iraq war was done by President Bush without the approval of the European community and their leaders? So this is how we make friends and influence people? By being so arrogant that we completely ignore them? Maybe this is how things are done in Illinois?
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Only if you are a Chicago Democrat - take a look at the impeached Governor.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Hello Deejeean, Yes, it would seem that now arrogance IS the way that we will "win friends and influnce people". Surely Dale Carnegie is rolling over in his grave.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Oops -- sorry! That should read "influence people".
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@albert2412 (1782)
• United States
7 Mar 09
I want to say that I and my wife did NOT vote for Obama! We are ashamed to have someone who believes in abortion (who we consider to be a murder for believing in abortion) as the President. I just hope that one day we can impeach obama and get someone a lot better than him. I am sorry that Mr Brown was insulted. The protocol officer with the state department should have seen to it that Mr. Brown was treated correctly.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
7 Mar 09
Hello Albert2412, You make a terrific point. The Obama's had the entire State Department at their beck and call to make sure that the appropriate decorum was maintained. That refusal to seek guidance speaks volumes!
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
7 Mar 09
Yes, where was this protocol advisor? He should never have let this happen in the first place. Shalom
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• United States
7 Mar 09
They need more than an etiquitte class. When I first read that the President worked in the Oval Office in his shirt sleves I thought it was ok but when you add that to this....sigh... it is horrible. It is like he has no respect for the post he has been voted (not by me) into. If anything his staff should have had the courage to stop the dvd as a gift. There are a million things better, its not like he had to spend his own money to purchase the gift. It is embarasing at the minimum. I will never have the chance to meet the people the First Family is getting to meet but I can assure you that the upmost of formality and hospitility would be shown.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
7 Mar 09
Hello Okkidokitokki, Funny how the shirt sleeves thing really hit home for some people, huh? It really is a matter of respect for the office. Their is an expected sense of decorum and formality for the office of the presidency. Geesh, how can the rest of the world be expected to respect the USA when our own president doesn't respect the office?
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
7 Mar 09
Bush, as much as I detest some of what he stood for and did, insisted all his staff and aids wear jackets and ties in that office and he wore the same, now I'm not such a stickler, I could care less if Obama showed up in the oval office in jeans and a polo shirt, but cripe, this whole things still has me just scratching my head trying to figure out what the heck it was all about.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Mar 09
I am in full agreament that an apology is in order, of that there is no question. But that apology now needs to come from Mr. Obama himself. We can apologize all we want for him and it is a sincere sentiment, but ultimately HE needs to apologize. I am writing the whitehouse and demanding he do this imediatly, I suggest everyone else do the same.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
You know, that's a really good idea, X!!!
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
6 Mar 09
Obama will never apologize, but we might be able to shame him by getting all the school kids in the US to write to the Browns and say that the next generation won't do the same jerky things!!! Shalom
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• United States
7 Mar 09
I think it just goes to show O'Bama o be the snub nosed bigot he is. They say white people are racist, well O'Bama is the poster boy for racism. I guess had it been Bin Ladin he would have bent over backwards to be courteous. Just wait and see O'Bama is gonna sell us down the river to the middle east. JMHO Marilyn
• United States
7 Mar 09
Barack couldn't concern himself with Brown because he was spending all his time and thoughts developing a witty combeback to Rush Limbaugh. 0bama is like school during summer, 'no class'!! (thanks goes to Bill Cosby for that one).
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
7 Mar 09
Hello Ima_C_Suvaya, Good one. Did you hear that the final episode of the Cosby show aired 17 years ago today? I heard it on "This Day in History". Wow! Did that ever make me feel old! 'Course, Bill's prodigious point is very appropo! Nice choice! Could it be that Obama was preparing for that public debate with Limbaugh, instead of just a witty comeback??? You know, the debate that Limbaugh challenged him to without any telepromptors? (Choke, choke)
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• United States
9 Mar 09
What I don't understand is how could the professionals in charge of diplomatic niceties such as this screw up so badly? Surely, the President has somebody from the diplomatic corps or the state department whose job it is to make suggestions for these sort of gifts? Could 0bama have ignored the advice of professionals and picked out this loser gift himself?
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Hello Red, Hmmm, you have raised some very interesting questions here.
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• United States
9 Mar 09
Ding ding ding ding... Sndcain is the winner. Her reasoning can not be disputed in this case.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Red, and Sndcain,
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@urbandekay (18314)
7 Mar 09
Please don't worry yourself, we don't expect the same level of politeness and refinement from you colonial types and we are happy to accommodate your crassness and shoddy gifts. We only request your don't give us another window-licker like Bush all the best urban
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
7 Mar 09
Hello Urbandekay, Thanks for the pass. 'Course, I could stoop to your level and hurl insults back at you. Though, that would make me no better than you. Ya' know what, you've got the gutter all to yourself there Urban. Enjoy your own bitter ruminations.
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@urbandekay (18314)
7 Mar 09
I see your manners are no better than your presidents, I am sure he, at least, can take a joke, without throwing a temper tantrum. all the best urban
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
12 Mar 09
Oh my goodness, thank you for such kind words and support, Sndcain.
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• United States
6 Mar 09
I am in agreement with the general consensus here, an apology is in order, but not from the American people (well perhaps the folks who put this arrogant unqualified oaf into office), 0bama needs to apologize - but he won't, that sort of thing would be viewed as beneath his majesty. I'd like to know where are all his rabid fans now, and why they aren't posting here to defend this crap, the way they do with every other embarrassing bumble he makes.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Mar 09
In all fairness, Kitty -- how could anyone defend this kind of boorishness from the guy who is perceived to be the greatest orator since Moses? The same guy who professes to be able to use diplomacy to talk down psychotic, oppressive, megalomaniacs like Mamoud Ahmadinejad?
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• United States
7 Mar 09
Angry Kitty you know that I posted a discussion giving rather unflattering view of Obama this morning and immediately his supporters were jumping to his defense. I think it is so typical that when it is such a blatant show of disrespect and they cannot dispute it they all stay in their hidey holes.
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