Chocolate coated tax

@p1kef1sh (45647)
March 12, 2009 12:59pm CST
A British doctor today said that he wanted to see a tax on chocolate products to try to reduce the amount of obesity and diabetes in the UK population. We are the fattest in Europe and eat more chocolate than any other european country too. His request has been rejected, but do you think that such a move has merit? If we tax chocolate, why not burgers, fries, sugar, cakes, bisuits etc etc.
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@cynthiann (18630)
• Jamaica
12 Mar 09
I am at a loss as to why British Dr's are saying this. don't thye know that chocolate comes from the cocoa bean and this is a vegetable. So to all you doctors out there - CHOCOLATE IS A VEGETABGLE AND THEREFORE IT IS GOOD FOR US. I used to have chocolate trees on our farm and we would pick the pods and dry them and then grate them. They are then boiled and lastly coconut milk is added. I don't know what has happened but since I left the U.K. they are getting up to all sorts of things! Chocolate is the answer to all sorts of problems. emotional and otherwise.
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@cynthiann (18630)
• Jamaica
12 Mar 09
apol;ogies for spelling errors - I have lost spell check and my fingers are a bit arthritic. I really can spell good - honest!
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
It's only one doctor, and the proposal was not accepted. I don't think that it is the cocoa that's the problem, but the sugar in the final product. Your preparation of chocolate sounds scrummy.
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@cynthiann (18630)
• Jamaica
12 Mar 09
Everyone is taking me seriously today and I am only messing around. I said that I want to be a super model and people think that this lady who has almost passed sixty is serious? Ah well.
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12 Mar 09
Hi p1key, i am not a great chocolate lover but that is taken it too far, as it is our food are not cheap anymore and it seems to up every week when we go shopping and putting tax up on them would not help cutting down obesity, but people need education on eating habit, anyway I don't wat to give up on my hobnob biscuits. Hugs. Tamara xxxx
• Regina, Saskatchewan
12 Mar 09
Here in Canada we already have taxes on those things. It's called the GST or, Goods and Services Tax. And this tax is on top of the taxes imposed by the provinces on the same goods and services. It's a simple money grab and I find it rather insulting that a politician would 'embarrass' the British public by hiding his real intention behind a 'health' issue. I remember seeing this on TV and our commentators made the point that this particular politician never seemed to be overly concerned with national health issues before...............is that true?
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
12 Mar 09
*Slaps self upside the head!* It was a Doctor not a politician. I gotta stop watching Canadian news and stick to the Brit stations! LOL
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
LOL. Never mind. I looked at Regina today. Property is quite expensive there. I couldn't see the appeal as most houses were covered in snow! However, I have made an application to be a skilled fig and date picker from the many exotic tropical plants that abound there. I am slightly worried that I didn't see anyone eating chocolate there. Is it taxed already? Probably melts too fast in the balmy all year round climate. Just like here really! LOL.
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
12 Mar 09
See this is why I have a metal roof..............snow slides right off and we stand out from the air! LOL As for melting chocolate. I keep mine in the freezer! LOL
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• United States
12 Mar 09
Pfffftttttt! It's not the chocolate that makes people fat! It's people's lack of control. What an idiot that doctor is! And,I agree, why not tax all that other stuff as well?
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
Agreed Bo. The doctor is simply courting publicity I think. However, we know what's good or bad for us. Everything in moderation is my view. Are you the Government now, or did I misunderstand my Dahr'lin Sis's comment?
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• United States
12 Mar 09
I think you did misunderstand her. I am not the government, no freakin way!
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@webeishere (36377)
• United States
12 Mar 09
A prsosn metabolism has the major factor in weight gain. I eat chocolate and baked treats a LOT and don't gain weight. But taxing things that aren't already, is stupid I feel. HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
13 Mar 09
We are taxing things here in the States that are unhealthy. New York made a law against restaurants using trans-fats and now, of course, the food is more expensive! But it's healthier. In Los Angeles they put a moratorium on any more fast food restaurants in a certain area that was overrun with them. Candy and such is taxed here, too. Doesn't stop people from eating it and we are the most obese nation in the world! Tell you doc that it won't work, education and motivation are the only things that will bring the weight down. Some employers, before this big meltdown, were offering employees monetary incentives to lose weight, quit smoking and other things. It worked! Even ten dollars was enough to make most people lose weight or quit smoking. Some charged overweight people more for health care and that made them lose weight, too.
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
13 Mar 09
My boss will pay for the patch if I were to quit. I have to quit cold turkey if I'm to quit...the patch did not work and neither did getting hypnotized...twice!
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
Employers did those things! Over here they would be told where to go! Charging overweight people more for their health care would have discrimination implications here. Fast food and candy is taxed. The idea was to add an additional tax to force people to cut down on their chocolate consumption. But chocolate is just one food, there are so many others that can be over indulged so they'd all have t be taxed without any guarantees of success. I think that we need education about such things not legislation.
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@ElicBxn (60175)
• United States
12 Mar 09
they wanna tax fast food over here - or not allow them to sell to over weight people or show an i.d. and not sell to children - can you say STUPID? - I knew you could...
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
Fast food is already taxed here, as is all restaurant food Elic. I can say STOOPID!
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@ElicBxn (60175)
• United States
13 Mar 09
oh, fishie one, they are talking EXTRA tax on fast food not just the normal sales tax - yeah, we got that too
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@mummymo (23709)
12 Mar 09
What makes it worse p1ke is that that doctor is also a acottish mp! Come on - we live in the land of the fatty food up here - chocolate isn't the only problem by far, if they are allowed to start this type of thing before very long the only thing we will be able to afford to eat will be broccoli and carrots! Now I love broccoli and carrots but can you imagine the whiff if that was all we could eat? Yuck! xxx
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
How about chocolate dipped broccoli and carrots Mummymo? Best of both worlds. Beats the deep fried mars bar or, as LnP told me the other day, the deep fried frozen coke cube! LOL. The mind boggles. I'll keep upwind though if you don't mind! XXXX
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@mummymo (23709)
12 Mar 09
Erm think I would rather eat them without chocolate! I have never tried a deep fried mars bar or a deep fried cola cube BUT I do enjoy the occasional deep fried pizza!
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@littleowl (7157)
12 Mar 09
Hi p1ke, I have to agree with you as , why haven't you become prime minister? You would make a better job than what GB is at the moment. It is ridiculous taxing chocolate as you say we might as well taz everything else as well if we did hugs LoLo
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
Me as PM. What a thought. What party would I be I wonder? Collapse of stout probably! LOL.
@polachicago (19143)
• United States
13 Mar 09
Lets to tax cows, they breathe too much air. They want us to pay taxes for air we breath, but cows breath more and are responsible for global warming. If we tax meat, we can end up with obesity. I would also tax politicians, tipple tax for messing up with peoples life.
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• Canada
13 Mar 09
Someone in the United States wanted to tax cows as methane producers, claiming they were polluting the air with all their farts. I think we should do that to some people. However the farm lobby soon squashed the cow fart tax. (I am not kidding and it is not April 1st yet.
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
Cows farts are useful. Harness it, turn it into methane and then burn it. It can and is done in some places using animal dung! Yes, let's levy a politician tax. Based on their rhetoric and actions. Good ones pay less tax, bad ones more. Treasury Ministers always pay the highest amount. LOL.
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@polachicago (19143)
• United States
13 Mar 09
yes, lets start with ministers....
@mariposaman (2968)
• Canada
13 Mar 09
Governments should not be using the tax system for social engineering. Taxes are originally designed for public protection like fire and police and army, and fixing the infrastructure like roads and sewers. Now the government has got in the business of trying to influence behavior when you are being naughty like smoking and drinking. They wish to expand that to foods so they control which foods you eat. If they are so concerned about obesity, how about bringing back Physical Education in the schools and reduce the hours of useless homework that children do every night. Children should be outside playing not sitting on their fat arses doing homework for hours every night.
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
I said earlier here to someone that here if you go past the city centre fast food places they are full of children in the afternoon eating meals between meals! I do agree though. Children need to be out more. My daughter used to walk two miles to school and two miles home usually. But there were still many that got picked up and driven each way. These days if we can't park outside the store we feel deprived. Crazy world we've created.
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• United Kingdom
13 Mar 09
Here in England, children do have Physical Education in most schools. I think it's recommended that they provide at least 2 hours a week but the thing is, if the schools are providing that and then the parents are not encouraging exercise and filling their kids with junk, it's not going to make a lot of difference. My kids, for example, are fit and healthy because they eat well and get plenty of exercise away from school but they have friends who are larger than they ought to be.
@liquorice (3902)
13 Mar 09
Yes, I just saw this on the news. How silly is this? I'm sure that chocolate isn't the main reason why some British people are so overweight. Surely chips and other fast foods are more to blame, as in the US and other countries. Also, I like to think that most people can make their own decisions about chocolate without being 'influenced' in this way by the government. Why not just ration our chocolate supply? We should all be allowed just one chocolate bar each week. Isn't that the next logical step?!! Ok, my main reason for opposing this is that I don't want anybody messing with my chocolate..! [carefully stashes Galaxy supply under floorboards..]
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
If you go past our local Maccas at about 4pm you will see that it is full of children just out from school. Presumably they had breakfast, lunch (probably packed) and will have tea/supper/dinner when they get home. Eating substantially between meals seems to have become a national pastime along with sunday shopping. Fast food places deliberately make themselves attractive to children. Once these habits get into the population then we inevitably see an increase in obesity etc. Chocolate has its part to play no doubt, but I don't believe that it is the culprit. We need to change our attitudes to food not tax certain foodstuffs out of existence. I found a bar of Green & Blacks dark chocolate in my sponge bag a while ago. Funny where such things end up!
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@liquorice (3902)
13 Mar 09
Yes, you're right, changing peoples' attitudes towards food and eating healthily is the only way. Sadly this is difficult to do, especially in cultures like ours where fast-food a la McD's is so engrained. We really need to include it in children's education from an early age. Part of that education must be provided by the parent, and schools should teach healthy eating too, as well as leading by example. I remember when I was at secondary school the food was terrible. I only ever remember eating greasy chicken legs (shortly afterwards I turned vegetarian!), and cheese and tomato pizzas dripping with oil. I honestly don't remember eating anything else for the entire time I went to that school. Hmm, how did the Green and Blacks get in your sponge bag I wonder. Was someone hiding it from you, or were you hiding it from someone else? lol!
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@Rosekitty (19488)
• San Marcos, Texas
13 Mar 09
No No, not my brownies...anything but chocolate...what will i do..
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
It's OK Rosie. It's not going to happen now. Breathe deeply - what's that funny smell. Ooooh Rosie. Naughty Brownies!!
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• Philippines
13 Mar 09
I do not agree on the move of that British doctor.
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
Neither do I and neither did the British Medical Association!
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• United States
13 Mar 09
i think thats silly.. again everyone wanting other people to police them so they dont have to be accountable on why they are fat.. GRRR!!
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
Yep. I can go with that.
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• United States
12 Mar 09
Chocolate in moderation is healthy....well dark chocolate anyway. But I think that all the fast food places are the ones that should have higher taxes. I don't see movies being made about women gaining 400lbs from eating Godiva chocolate. But there is plenty of proof that McDonalds and restaurants of the like have added to the worlds obesity rate. But taxing chocolate is out of the question. Do you have any idea how many women would march on Parliament with semi automatic rifles during "that time of the month" if they had to pay more for chocolate? It would be mass hysteria. lol
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@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
I shall march with you Cyn. Although I am reminded of the old adage "Hell hath no fury like woman whose chocolate has been taxed"!!
@mtdewgurl74 (18122)
• United States
12 Mar 09
Yeah, that is true. It would be strange to only hold one type of food as the culprit when it is a large variety that is the cause of people being overweight taken in bigger quantity then is advisable. I could see a dentist having issues with the chocolate or candy but not a regular doctor. We just need to curb our desires to eat more then we should is all.
@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
I think that his concern is morbid obesity and the rise in Type 2 Diabetes Becky. Even so, surly it is down to people to decide for themselves what they will eat or drink. Pass a lettuce leaf please! LOL.
@mtdewgurl74 (18122)
• United States
12 Mar 09
Okay "Becky passes a few lettuce leaves and a few carrot sticks to P1key" Hmmm..I wonder if they would taste good with chocolate coating?
@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
Let's dip them and see Becky. LOL.
@dawnald (84157)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 09
and especially Kentucky Fried Chicken... Yeah, silly, find some other way to promote healthy eating. Subsidies for restaurants to have more healthy choices, educations, whatever. Taxation not gonna work...
@p1kef1sh (45647)
20 Mar 09
I truly do not understand how that stuff passes for food. YUK! Education has to be the way to do it. Once I have finished this chocolate bar I'll enroll on a course! LOL.
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@dawnald (84157)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 09
What, Kentucky Fried Chicken? I love the stuff but I admit I get extra napkins and sop up the grease before I eat it. I bring antacids too...
@p1kef1sh (45647)
26 Mar 09
Better have an ambulance on standby whilst you're about it.
@webeishere (36377)
• United States
12 Mar 09
All prepared foods are taxable in the USA. This means at restaraunts of all sorts and deli foods at ghrocery stores etc are taxed. It doesn't help as we have obese children as well. Sensless taxes are useless etc. Ugghh! HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
@p1kef1sh (45647)
12 Mar 09
Chocolate is aleady taxed here. But this wouldn't make any difference I think. Just more daftness.
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@webeishere (36377)
• United States
12 Mar 09
Candy bars are taxed but not chocolate etc for baking. Anything that is prepared alread foodwise is taxed like candy bars cookies etc. But not the stuff to make them yourself. HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
@mtdewgurl74 (18122)
• United States
13 Mar 09
The Store that is about 350 foot from my house has candy bars that cost .89 cents before tax and it is silly to be so high since no one buys them much because of it. Makes you want to shout..Off with their heads..lol
@bombshell (11268)
• Germany
14 Mar 09
right why not other stuff or maybe also s*x there will be tax every love making to our husband or wife?hahaha
@p1kef1sh (45647)
14 Mar 09
Don't speak too soon or someone will try to introduce it! LOL.
@bombshell (11268)
• Germany
14 Mar 09
hahaha who knows
• Canada
13 Mar 09
Hi p1ke! Chocolate, candies and all snack foods are taxed here in Canada as well as baked goods.... I don't think it as a bad idea.... They tax fast food and take out here too...Even pizza when ordered from a restaurant so I would say it is a good idea! ~Heavens~
@p1kef1sh (45647)
13 Mar 09
I didn't make myself very clear Heavens. I meant a tax in addition to the one that we pay on such stuff already. He singled out chocolate but to my mind it could be on anything. If we do anything to excess it can be harmful. Does that mean that the answer is to make that activity unaffordable. Isn't it better simply to educate us better.
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