I so did not want to know that.

@AmbiePam (49478)
United States
March 13, 2009 3:24pm CST
This happened over a month ago, but I've been busy and just not feeling up to posting. I'm way behind on answering other's discussions. Okay, so I won't be having back surgery any time soon. I'm young, they don't want to do that to me at my age (28). Before I know this however, I hear the nurse in the back talk about how her parents had enrolled her in Sylvan Learning Center. For those of you who don't know, it is a place where kids can get tutoring, and it costs a pretty penny. So I hear her say she cheated when she was there getting tutored. She then says she cheated on one of her exams in nursing school! So you can imagine my relief when they said they weren't doing surgery, because that nurse usually DID assist him when he did those procedures. I'm having an epidural Monday, then the next Monday, and then the next Monday. So I won't be able to catch up fully for a while. Anyway, ever heard anyone say something that made you a little afraid of what they could do in their position? I mean, she cheated and she is a nurse in charge of people's health!
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@kissieme (777)
• Philippines
14 Mar 09
oh wow! ambiepam, I'm so glad you didn't have the surgery. With that nurse assisting??? gosh! How could some people be able to feel accomplished on something that they cheated on... I wonder... I did experience the same fear when you heard something that makes you afraid you're not going to be whole again... At 17, I had an alveolar infection on my jaw when I as in college. My right jaw was so swollen and it was so painful plus I had a fever for like a week already.So, I decided to take a 7-hour bus trip back to my parents' province. A miserable trip I'd say lol. They made an appointment with the dentist the next day for me. So when me and my mom got there and the dentist checked my swollen gum on the jaw part. She excused herself and turned to my mom. I can hear them whispering even though I'm so not feeling good. The dentist told her that I was lucky that the infection will be treated before it gets really serious. A few days more of waiting for this to be treated, it would have burst and part of my cheek will get damaged because of the infection or something like that and might leave a whole on the cheek too...a surgery will be quite expensive, which we couldn't afford at that time... bleh! I burst into tears when I heard that eventhough they were trying to whisper about it. gesh! but then again she said it is a good thing it will be treated early... lol... Luckily, with the daily treatment to the dentist in a week, it went fine woot! scary that... I thought I'd be sporting a cute lil hole on my right cheek forever
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
14 Mar 09
I'm glad you dodged that bullet. That must have hurt like heck!
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@kissieme (777)
• Philippines
15 Mar 09
yep, I'm so glad I did... hmmm... but I think missing school for a week at the university was more painful hahaha...
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@EvrWonder (3577)
• Canada
13 Mar 09
I am glad that your surgery has been postponed for your sake. I am thinking positive for the epidurals. I would of been a little afraid, none the less. I hope she doesn't assist in the Monday appointment either. I had day surgery once. I woke up vomiting with a nurse poking me in the but with a needle. She came back to do it again and I said no. Long story short, within a week, I was yellow and very incoherent. I got jaundice. I am shocked that this person can be working as a nurse in the hospital. Assisting with with surgeries none the less. Think of those coming after you. I would be thinking of reporting her to the college of physicians or rather nursing. My Mom is a nurse and would know exactly what to do. As one other response stated, they do tend to weed the bad ones out, so be it. This must of been rather challenging for you to have to over hear. I would of wanted to get out of there a.s.a.p. There was a time in my life, earlier in years where back surgery was suggested as well. Then again as recent as last year since I have a wrecked spine, spurs and arthritis. I am wondering why you may need to even consider back surgery? I met a girl years ago who had surgery on her back. She had to be in a body cast for one year after ward. I opted out each time for the same reasons as you. Too young, just in case something went wrong. One slip and I could be paralyzed for life. At least I can still walk. Sure I experience ongoing pain but I am still mobile.
@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
14 Mar 09
Ten years ago I was in a car wreck. My car flipped several times, ending up upside down. As a result, my neck and lower back are very messed up. My neck is actually worse, but I don't trust them to mess with it. I got an epidural in my neck once, and I ended up sick as a dog because they didn't do it right. But sometimes I can't even walk because of my back. I will crawl to get where I have to go. I'm on disability for this as well as for other health problems. There are times agony just rips through my lower back and down my legs. I'll have to have the surgery someday. The doctor has gone over it with me just how bad my back is. But for now I'm glad I won't be having it.
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@EvrWonder (3577)
• Canada
16 Mar 09
Hi Ambie pam, thanks for your comment. I understand where you are coming from. I have spinal problems, lower back and neck as well. Some from car accidents and horse accidents and some just because that is the way my spine developed but also labor intensive jobs. I just responded to a discussion regarding back pain. Check it out as some ideas there may help for you to manage the pain you have too. I know I decline the surgery option also. Please read my response to this discussion. May be good for your neck. Response number 16 http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1942982.aspx?p=2 I wish you the very best and good for you for declining the surgery. Sometimes it isn't worth it. One slip and we can be paralyzed too, right? that's the main reason that I decline that option.
@lilybug (21148)
• United States
13 Mar 09
Uh, yeah! I would have been freaking out. I probably would have said something to one of the doctors about it. She must not be too bright telling people she works with that she cheated to get her job.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
13 Mar 09
The facility I was at only takes people on Medicaid or Medicare. I have a feeling this place took her because she might have been the only one they could get. Now a lot of places are just fine where I go to get treated and they take Medicaid. But this place was a pit. The only saving grace to me was the surgeon. It was clear to me that no matter what the nurse said or did, the surgeon knew what he was talking about. And I felt greatful to him. Clearly, he was working there because he had a generous heart.
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@jillhill (37383)
• United States
13 Mar 09
Not that I can recall...but my daughter was quite upset the other day...seems one of her professors emailed her to make sure her paper was not full of mistakes etc yet his was full of typo's....and he is a professor...teaching? I know that's not a good example....but if a teacher is not using his own advice he certainly can't be teaching things right....Okay.....anyway....hope the epidurals help with your pain....okay....so while I am typing this I remember a better example. My father was in intensive care in a hospital after a doctor botched his pacemaker surgery and he had to have open heart surgery to try to repair what the doctor did..(pushed the wire too far right through my dad's heart) there was a code blue...my whole family was in the intensive care waiting room and we could hear the nurses...does anyone know where the box is? Nope and don't care....are you going do to help? Nope..are you? nay....might as well just stay up here....anyone know where the box is (must have something to do with insturments to revive people)...it was scary to leave my dad there....we did have him transfered to another VA hospital as soon as we could.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
13 Mar 09
I'm alert at every medical facility now. My dad went in for a simple outpatient procudure, left and got to feeling really sick. He went back four hours after the initial visit, and guess what? The morons had caused him to get a blood clot! He had to have emergency surgery because the blood clot was lodged in his neck, trying to make it to his brain.
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@Jae2619 (1484)
• United States
14 Mar 09
I have a neighor who just finish nursing school about 6 months ago, and is on her first real job, and as she was going threw school she would come over here and ask to borrow the computer for a few minutes to do some research on things and take online tests for her classes, but it was later realized she was looking up the answers to the test because she didn't want to fail the class and have to retake it. It's amazing what lengths people will go to, just to get a step ahead, even if it means cheating themselves out of actually learning something. If I were in your shoes, I would be little nervous with such an important surgery. And would probably have to ask for a different nurse, after hearing what she said. I know that if I ever need medical assistance my neighbor would be the last on my list. Best of luck with all your prodcures.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
14 Mar 09
That's scary to think about.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
13 Mar 09
Hearing something like that from a nurse would make me a little nervous. It certainly shows poor judgement on her part. I would make a phone call to the director of patient services to report what you overheard. Even if she has learned the material through experiance that she originally cheated on, it reflects badly on her and the hospital. If it's any comfort, I believe the prep may be done by the nurse, but the actual proceedure is done by a doctor...or they used to be. I hope you get a lot of relief from them. My mom had that done, and it helped her tremendously.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
14 Mar 09
I've had one done before as well, about six years ago. It did help.
@mtdewgurl74 (18118)
• United States
16 Mar 09
I would be like so out of there..I would also try to bring it to the person in charge. I mean this person is in charge of peoples lives and holds them in her hands everyday and who needs someone who cheats to cheat them out of their life when she makes a mistake.
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@hotsummer (10444)
• Philippines
15 Mar 09
hmm. it will surely make me worried if i am in your place seeing the staff had cheated in her exams. that will make me feel she is not qualified for her job. but i don't remember encounter some similar situation like you had. never wish to be in one any time.
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@tea512 (687)
• United States
13 Mar 09
that is some heavy stuff back surgery can lay you up for weeks. I agree with being nervous about the nurse. I work at a graduate college that turns out doctors and occasionally i proctor exams and the only reason we are there is stop cheating so it goes on more than you think and at every level. if there is a test some not all not even a good amount but always will be cheaters at least that is what i have seen.
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@lilybug (21148)
• United States
13 Mar 09
Uh, yeah! I would have been freaking out. I probably would have said something to one of the doctors about it. She must not be too bright telling people she works with that she cheated to get her job.
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@makingpots (11922)
• United States
13 Mar 09
Hi, AmbiePam. I can understand your relief in hearing the procedure was being postponed. I would have felt the same way. I hope the epidurals will provide you some relief.
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@camomom (7536)
• United States
17 Mar 09
I would have opened my big mouth and said something to her or to the doctor.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
17 Mar 09
At the time I was afraid to. I hadn't yet met the surgeon, and I thought if the surgeon is as shoddy as his nurses, I don't stand a chance. Luckily, the surgeon was excellent. However, for the steroid epidural I had yesterday another doctor performed it, and he had his own staff, which did not include that nurse. I feel much better about that since I have to have another epidural next Monday, and the following Monday as well.
@camomom (7536)
• United States
17 Mar 09
I'm glad you didn't have to deal with her. Good luck with your back.
@LittleMel (14055)
• Canada
17 Mar 09
I am sure I heard something like that, but I don't remember it well what happened right now. Just another example that those who get the job are not always entitled to it. A lot of people out there with better skills and talents can not get the job that fits their specifications for whatever reason. I'm sure if you did come to someone at the top and tell them about it, she will come up with an excuse and somebody will back her up for the sake of either the job or the reputation of the place and whoever works or owns it. If there is any way to find another place for surgery, by all means Ambie take that option. She could be just lucky so far, never makes mistakes that could hurt her career, but luck can run out someday.
@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
17 Mar 09
Luckily, she wasn't involved in the steroid epidural shot I had yesterday. I was sent to another person for that, and he had his own staff. And like you, I was pretty much sure she would find someone to cover for her. I am hoping the nurse she told this too when I overheard, might bring this up to someone. They would believe a coworker more than me.
@Amberina (1541)
• United States
16 Mar 09
I would go let the Hospital Administrator know what you over heard, the reason is because she is taking care of people and if she makes a mistake it could be someone's life. Nursing is a very serious occupation and she needs to take it seriously. Her boss might like to know how she did on her tests maybe they will put her on leave until she retakes the test without cheating.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
17 Mar 09
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the seriousness of it. You know, I think they have an anonymous hotline to report things like this. I just thought of it, and I think I might call it.
@messageme (2821)
• United States
16 Mar 09
I wouldn't say that lowers her skills at all. If I heard it yes I would probably feel better knowing that I wasn't going to be worked on with her assistance, but if you really think about it. Some people just are no good at taking tests. They may know the stuff but when it comes to putting it down on paper they just can't do it. That is how I was in school for anything. Reading, if I had to write something about what I just read, I couldn't do it. I knew the stuff I just couldn't put it on paper. Tests, I may have known all the things on the test, but just knowing it was a test made me not do so well. I would get all my papers back with perfect scores, but a test would come back with all F's!! It really hurts your grade even though everything else was right. So in a way I know how she may feel, if that was her case. But like I said not knowing her case I would feel much better knowing she wasn't working on me.
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
16 Mar 09
It doesn't bother me that she cheated at Sylvan Learning Center. But when she was in nursing school, it wasn't like her subjects were history or reading. It was medical things that affect our lives. But more than that, it was how she was bragging about it that troubled me. I'm sure you know what I mean. Depending on the person, I think I would take it differently. But this woman was just a piece of work. lol
• United States
15 Mar 09
Not quite so serious, but I went to the doctor for labwork and and I have issues with needles. I tell the nurse that I have problems with needles and that I will be ok as long as I don't see the needle and she doesn't talk to me about what she's doing. I always have blood drawn with my eyes shut. She says to me, "Oh, ok, are you sure? This is the first time I've done this on a person." Ok I just looked at her and calmly asked if there was anyone else that could draw my blood. There wasn't, just my luck, so she sticks me and starts talking about how she can't find my vein. Long story short, she had to call for someone to help her because I started feeling sick and dizzy and passed out. I have never passed out before or since. The longer she talked the more I freaked out. Sometimes I think people need to think about what they are saying and how maybe it would be better to keep their mouths shut. I've always heard that it's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
15 Mar 09
I do believe you're right!
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@pyewacket (44036)
• United States
14 Mar 09
Sorry to hear you haven't been feeling none to keen and didn't know back surgery was something you might have had done, but glad you won't need it now. And yikes I would get the willies if I overheard a nurse saying she had cheated in an exam--I wouldn't want her anywhere near me if it were me. I wonder if there is some way you can report her??
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
14 Mar 09
I'm starting to feel like since I'm on Medicaid, they really don't care what I say. They really don't care what I think. Like if I reported her, they wouldn't even believe me. The treatment a person gets when it is know they are on disability is eye opening. Sure, not everyone is like that, but too many professionals are.
@rocketj1 (6960)
• United States
13 Mar 09
I'm thinking you may want to talk to someone who would be in authority over this woman. Personal chit-chat is supposed to be kept to a minimum anyway and that type of admission is highly unprofessional if nothing else!
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@AmbiePam (49478)
• United States
14 Mar 09
I imagine she would deny it.
• Australia
6 Jul 09
Yikes! I'd have reported her, not that there is much in the way of evidence, but I was still voice my concerns with the health department. She is in a position of trust, and has falsely gained that position. Fraud charges would come if it was proven too.
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@la_chique (1499)
28 Mar 09
Thats terrible that she cheated an exam! I'd be really worried! I hope your back feels better soon and that the epidurals work.
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