What made you change your beliefs, faith, or religion

@suspenseful (40316)
Canada
March 26, 2009 10:47pm CST
I used to belong to the Two by Twos and I left them because of their unforgiveness. I had been a bad girl, and when I became a Christian, and got baptised, I thought that my life was now a clean slate, but I was told I could not wear white at my wedding because not only was I not a virgin, but I had had an illegitimate child. Before that I belonged to a Pentacostal church, but left it because they were always thinking that talking in tongues meant talking gibberish, and when I was young I belonged to the United Church and left because it told the reverend want to do and if he did not preach what they liked, he was fired and also they were more interested in social acceptance rather then preaching the Word.. Nothing in that about hypocrisy, or someone saying do not drink, and drinking, etc. just unforgiveness, pretending that gibberish was talking in tongues and being wordly and not allowing the minister to preach the gospel. Oh I am a Christian, and I belong to a church that preaches true forgiveness and I know my sins have been forgiven, I do things for people not out of force or to make myself look good but to glorify God. So I was wondering what was the reason you changed your denomination, religion, belief, or faith? This is not just about changing from a Buddhist to a Muslim, i.e. but maybe changing from a certain sect of your religion, like someone who used to be a Lutheran deciding to become a Baptist, etc.
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16 responses
• United States
27 Mar 09
I think it has always been God showing me a different way. My parents fought over religion a lot. I think that because of that I began to pray and ask God where I should be. As things got hard in one place I would pray and ask God if it was time to leave. Many times the answer came back as "no." I learned a lot by staying and then a lot by leaving when the answer was "yes." I think that I learned what I was supposed to in each instance and then it was time to move on. It has never been perfect and there have been many good and many nasty experiences along the way. Religion is religion and God is God. Most of the time they look totally different, and I can wonder how the two can be related. I always think of the statement: Let God be true and every man a lier. This is what works for me.
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• United States
27 Mar 09
Whenever I read a book or listen to a lecture or sermon or someone tells me a point of view, I like to do what the Apostle said, I try to follow it as it follows Jesus Christ. So I ask God - "Help me follow this as it follows Christ." I am always amazed at how the truth sticks and the rest falls away.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
That is what works for me. If someone tells me different, I try to remember what I read in the Bible and if that does not sound right, it is not. There are so many sects and points of view that if one considers it are not based on the Bible, and what Jesus Christ would have done or what the Apostles preached about, that one has to listen to what God says through HIS word.
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@GardenGerty (102613)
• United States
28 Mar 09
This is a wonderful discussion and really brings home the point that we follow Christ, not a church, sect or human being. I think this is one of the more positive religious discussions I have seen online.
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@albert2412 (1782)
• United States
29 Mar 09
Hi I do not care what you have done in the past. That is not important. What is important is what you are doing now. I myself am a Christian, I had an out of body experience as a child and got to meet the apostles and GOD talked to me. i know that Jesus is the Son of GOD. We used to go to local churches here, but they all mistreated us. They walked away from us and would not talk to us a lot. Now we read the Bible at home. We are very religious Christians.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
2 Apr 09
I guess they were Christian churches in name only.
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@ajithlal (14569)
• India
14 Apr 09
I also think past is past and we need to live in the present and forgive and forget our sins and others sins. Then only we can be happy and make others happy.
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@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I didnt change from the church I was born into I just choose a differnt path and went with more nature things. Was born to the LDS chyrch Mormon to most. I quit going for several reason one I watched a bishop drink hard li**or which we arent to do ( I do though) also we had so many gossipy women that tod so many lies it got kids into trouble with thier parents . Also Ya had to dress to the nines or you werent really dressed nice enough to go to chursh I have noticed this has changed . I go with the NAtive American way the Blessing Ways and nature. all things are beautiful in my eyes!
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
I do not think that someone else should decide to influence you no longer going to that church. I would think that if depended on the dogma, if it went against scripture, or they were preaching sermons not based on God's word. I would think that it would be best to excommunicate the members who did not follow the scripture and who lived an ungodly unrepentant life after a few warnings. I do believe you have to dress nice for church, not all dolled up with enough plaster on your face nor all that jewelery, but decent enough , not wearing t-shirts and jeans. Although I do think it is all right to wear slacks and pant suits in winter when your legs will just get too cold with just wearing nylons.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
29 Mar 09
We didnt have a preacher. Differnt people did the talks we called them talks and they were to be on something in the bible. But I never got to gung ho on any of it. Altho I had 100% attendance till I was 17.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
31 Mar 09
That sounds much like a Bible study to me. We did have a theme or a book in the Bible that we studied.
@salonga (27955)
• Philippines
28 Mar 09
My dear your account of how you changed your faith sounds so interesting. And for that I got encouraged also share mine. I was born in Catholic faith and spend my childhood and early adulthood in that faith. However as I was in that religions I saw the lapses and I had so many questions and so I turn to the Bible and from there I have been guided by God to realize that I am a sinner who needed a Savior.From the Bible also I learned that Jesus is the Savior that I need. This one important thing I've never really thought in the old faith that teaches religion in vagueness and with the inclusion of saints and graven images without necessarily going direct to the point about how one could achieve eternal life. They also misguided most of the Catholics by falsely teaching about Mary and making her equal to God. As I discovered the truth, I started looking for a real Bible believing Church. I went first to Pentecostal church, then to Evangelical church but were not fully satisfied. Finally, I got a church now that fully satisfied my longing for a Church that satisfies my longing for a church that believe the BIBLE is the WORD OF GOD, and that it is divinely inspired and that it is the only complete and final revelation of the will of GOD to man and uses the King James Version having found out that it is the final authority for the English language. A church that believe in the Trinity, the unity of the Godhead. There are three persons: The FATHER, The SON, and The HOLY SPIRIT. They are equal in every divine perfection and execute distinct but harmonious offices in the great work of redemption and also believe that all men by nature, choice and practice are sinners, but that "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And that salvation is by grace brought about by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone. A church that believe and teaches about eternal life in Heaven, for those who have been redeemed by their faith in the saving power of Jesus Christ. A church who believe in Hell and that it for those who are lost and rejected the saving power of Jesus. And it there where they will suffer burning and tormenting because they refused salvation and hence shall be cast into the lake of fire to be tormented day and night forever and forever. It is a church that believes in eternal security. That salvation is not lost and the true Christians are assured that they are sealed and will be preserved till the great homecoming comes. It is a church that believes what the Bible says that all those who really accepted Christ as Lord and Savior are new creatures and hence will lead a new life and will follow the examples of Jesus Christ all for His glory. It is a church where believers act and dress modestly and live their lives with their light shining before men so that the world will see the good works of God and glorify Him. There is so much more to say but I will end in just one word. I have found the right faith and now belong to the right church. God bless!
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@salonga (27955)
• Philippines
28 Mar 09
The new church I belong to is a fundamental Baptist Church!
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
30 Mar 09
Good for you. I have not heard of the Fundamental Baptist Church. I did hear of the Southern Baptists. I guess it is not the same thing, it sounds more Calvinist then Baptist. We believe in infant baptism. I guess that might be the only thing in which we differ, but I did not see anything on the page I looked at about that. I am a Calvinist and belong to the Canadian Reformed Church and we believe that God chooses those who HE wants saved, but none of us know who they are, but those who do suspect it, because for some reason they feel guilty when they go against God's Will. And when you are chosen by God, you just want to go to church and you get rather annoyed when the pastor preaches against the Holy Word or tells something that is non-scriptural.
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@salonga (27955)
• Philippines
30 Mar 09
In that webpage, you can also post your question and they will give you an answer in a day or two. I know they could answer whatever questions you have on the basis of the Bible.
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@Rozie37 (15503)
• Turkmenistan
27 Mar 09
What in the world are the Two by Twos? I thought I had heard it all, until I read the beginning of your post. Anyway, I have never changed my religion. I still believe in the same God that my mother taught me about. I will say that I now have a deeper and more personal understanding of who he is now.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
The two by twos also known as the No-name religion is a sect that was founded by this man in England. He believed that we should all meet in house congregations, and that we should confess our sins before each other, that ministers should not get married. That we should not watch Tv or read newspapers, radios, etc. or anything considered worldly and that women should keep their hair long and not wear shorts, or slacks. They also believed that they were the only ones that were right and everyone else was going to hell in a handbasket. Another name they are called is the Plymouth Brethren. I know, I belonged back in the late 1960s and up until I was married in 1972. And when I tried to find out about them when we got the Internet, it was hard because you joined because of word of mouth. They were more into appearances, and they considered many sins unforgivable and you can guess it was not just that unforgiveable sin. And I find that I can understand God better now. I have grown stronger in my faith and am glad that I no longer belong to that sect.
@Rozie37 (15503)
• Turkmenistan
30 Mar 09
Good for you for having the courage to find a religion that works for you.
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@Rozie37 (15503)
• Turkmenistan
9 Apr 09
I am so glad that you found the right church for you.
@dragon54u (31637)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I was raised Presbyterian and went through a period of atheism, then I was agnostic. Finally, I realized that it was foolish to deny that God exists and that He loves and cares about me. I didn't go to church but when I had children I took them to a nearby Baptist church because that was the closest and the next closest was 20 miles away. I quit that church because the bible teacher for my 4 year old's class told him he was going to hell because he didn't want to quit coloring to sing a hymn. I had to work very hard to explain to him that some people are very sick and in those cases, religion fuels their sickness. He's fine now, he's been through his period of atheism and is now agnostic. It won't be long before he'll see the truth, as I did. I'm back to my Presbyterian roots now and try to go to church at least twice a month, not because I think I have to but because I truly enjoy it.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
Some children are not that good at coloring and it was wrong for the teacher to say that he would go to hell because he would not sing the hymn. I never went through an atheistic or agnostic period. I always knew God existed, but I used to wonder why HE never answered some of my prayers, but instead of blaming it on God I felt that there were some evil people praying "do not answer A-s prayers" or I felt that I had not enough faith, so I used to think it was either someone else's fault or my own. And when I used to belong to that other church, I used to get the message "well maybe God did not grant you a child because that women in Africa who lives in a hut in the middle of the Savannah has to have her five babies." which was another reason why I quit.
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@dragon54u (31637)
• United States
28 Mar 09
There are people in every church who are cruel and thoughtless and self-righteous. Looks like both of us have encountered them! I'm glad there aren't many of those types.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
So am I. I am sure glad that I was careful to look for a Bible believing church instead of just one that was a social gathering.
• United States
27 Mar 09
I have never heard of the "Two by Twos" what are they? Some kind of sect? The only two by twos I know of were the number of each specie on Noah's Ark.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
27 Mar 09
They are a sect. They believed that they were the only true church. They did not believe in Television, reading the newspapers, listening to the radio, women could not cut their hair, could not wear slacks even in the wintertime, no makeup, no jewelry. and they had no church buildings, they did not have church weddings, you had to go to the justice of the peace, and the ministers could not be married. Of course that was wrong, because was not Peter married? I mean Saint Peter. I think they were started by his man in England who took parts out of the New Testament to suit himself, but I did not know that at the time. It was only after I left *because of their unforgiveness, that I found out more of them, but at that time when i joined I was in a state of emotional turmoil.
• United States
27 Mar 09
I am so glad you got out before they did you any lasting damage. I believe most sects to be very dangerous.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
The danger to me was by not saying that we could watch Tv, or read newspapers, that some health issues that could have benefited me I did not hear about.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
29 Mar 09
I have never changed my religion...I was raised Pentecostal and i do believe it 100%, however i do understand that some things that they harp on is not really a sin..I just believe the doctrine that they preach...All churches have their bad & good, so i go to the church that i feel is right in my heart....I do hate that so many churches have claimed to be a form of Pentecost but yet do not do the right thing, it gives Pentecost a bed rep...You are a christian suspensful. and you are forgiven , God never lets us down..Don't worry about what people think,just keep doing what you are doing...So what is you were bad in your younger days, we ALL have a few sins in our life, but God forgave us & we are now cleansed..Remember the woman at the well? God said those without sin cast the first stone....I was raised Pentecostal, i repented of my sins & was baptized and i also spoke in tongues, and thats the way i feel is right...No one has a right to judge you and tell you what to do..Whatever you do is between you and God.......Keep the faith and ignore the ignorant...
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
31 Mar 09
I was raised United Church and I found that doctrine not right because they gradually got more worldly and concentrated more on pleasing the world rather then pleasing God. I also hate when certain things were considered so sinful that you could not be forgiven for it, and they were not even that unforgiveable sin that Jesus talked about in the Bible. It is when something is considered a bad sin that hinders some people from thinking they are too bad for God to forgive them. When we all have that original sin to contend with even the 'good' people.
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@j47lee (742)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
I am a catholic and my husband is a protestant..... i dont know why churches just want to rule your life..... my personal opinion.... God is not only there in the church ...god is everywhere... so why do we need to go to church... plus.... we wanted to get married in a church... and guess wat... we went to a Protestant church..and the made me get baptised in the protestant way again.. even though i was already baptised...... i believe religion is what man makes of it... each person interpret religion in their own way...
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@GardenGerty (102613)
• United States
28 Mar 09
I am in the same denomination my family discovered and joined when I was a small child. I left it for awhile just because the local church was so large, and my husband at that time said that he would attend a smaller church. We went to a similar denomination. I did not stay with it because 1.) the local pastor was a bully and a hypocrite 2.) my first child was just about old enough to start attending Sunday School and the feeling I got was that they really did not like children. I wanted him to be loved when he went to church.3) My husband would not attend that church with me either.4) I missed my original church. Over the years, I have seen local churches have some difficulties, and some people in churches be sinful, in spite of the Good News, but I love the teachings of my denomination. I was told when I was sixteen that if I ever saw a policy or teaching that contradicted the Bible, I was to follow the Bible first, above any denomination. I believe that completely.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
30 Mar 09
It does not help when the preacher does not like children. In our denomination, everyone loves children. When our church goes to large, we split up and start a new branch. That makes it much easier. Too bad your original church did not do that.
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@barehugs (8986)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
I was born to a Religious family, and until I became old enough to think for my self, was deeply Religious. At age 23 I walked away from the Church never to return. The problem was, I had expectations. Even as a Child I read everything I could get my hands on about Science and Religion. Loved them both and wanted more than anything to have them hand in hand in my life. I believed Science and Religion were close Relatives and that one would prove the other. I believed that God had given us Science to explain His Existence. But I found out differently, and bitterly disappointed, I quit the Church, and have never looked Back!
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
You have to understand there is false science and true science. And also the only way one can prove the existence of God is if God takes a physical form and looks like Zeus or Odin, and throws thunderbolts, acts like a superior Superman for some people to believe in HIM. One does need science to explain that God exists, the fact that the planets are here, the stars, life exists, and that nothing falls from the sky, that we are all on earth, that no woman has given birth to a plant,etc. is proof that there is God. God is eternal. As for quitting the church, there are false churches and true churches and some people quit the false church, because it is false and does not follow the scripture, but their eyes are blind and they refuse to look for the true church. I know my husband is that way.
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• United States
27 Mar 09
I grew up Roman Catholic and when I married my first husband I was told I had to convert to Southern Baptist. I did because I figured spirituality was the same across the board. I left the Christian faith all together when in that southern convention and church I was told it was God's word that my husband was allowed to beat and abuse me. I was told I should pray to God for the knowledge on how to be a good wife and mother. I was told it was ok for my husband to beat and abuse me. I was already troubled that Christians seem to think they are beyond reproach and can do no wrong, so I left because of that. Now that I've been gone I've realized just how flawed a religion it is. I'm very happy now being a Student of Life and learning all I can by being a spiritual being on a journey. Namaste-Anora
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
That was not the Christianity I grew up with. Husbands are supposed to love their wives and care for them. That preacher was wrong. It is people like him who give Christianity a bad name. A true Christian would not advise a husband to abuse his wife. No where in the Bible, does it say that men should beat their wives. And all men are sinners and can only be forgiven if they turn to HIM.
@stephcjh (32327)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I have never stopped believing but there have been times when I questioned things. I guess it had alot to do with what I have been through and still go through in life.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
I suppose that would help one question one's beliefs, but I am not just thinking of just abandoning one's belief in God if one is a Christian, but perhaps changing from being a Baptist to a Lutheran, or switching from being a Roman Catholic to a Protestant. Or for the others, going from Orthodox Judaism to Reformed Judaism. There are many categories that one can change from if one maybe disagrees with their local church's dogma.
@vamp6x6x6x (1220)
• United States
27 Mar 09
That question is hard to answer; in fact I don't know if their is any real answer. Ones religion is an act of faith so they don't go crazy wondering if there is a life after here, and some explore different religions just to find the one that is most believable to them. Then also you have those that study and "believe" in every religion just in case.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
27 Mar 09
I was born into the Catholic faith and am still a Catholic Christian. during my early years of marriage I started to go to other Christian denominations but there was always something drawing me back home to Catholicism. I studied quite a lot of theology in my life and have developed, hoefully, into a more lovng person. I cannot be anything else. I think that people should worship in the way that they feel comfortable. I just hate it when a Church is negative about other Christian religions. The word is love. and guess what ? If you are so perfect then Christ did not come for you . He came for me and the other sinners. One Love
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
I always believe that God chooses us, not we choose HIM. I still cannot understand how it works though because when God opened up my heart, I was a horrible person. I had commmitted a sin, had s*x with a guy before marriage, did not listen to my parents, thought they did not know anything, and would stay out all night when they told me not to, even went with a guy who was a minor criminal. If you knew me when I was a teenager, you would have said that I was helpless, and when I became an adult, I was not that much better. Nothing was my fault it was always someone else to blame. I do believe we come by faith and not by works. And that God took me out of my sinful condition.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
30 Mar 09
Amen to that!
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• Canada
7 Oct 09
What are the two-by-two's? I have never heard of them. I was born into the Presbyterian church, and I am still there. the one that I go to is pretty liberal, and I like it. I don't believe in everything, and don't go every week, but on the whole, it's a pretty good church.