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@celticeagle (118210)
Boise, Idaho
April 23, 2009 4:24pm CST
any of you saw the Ellen show yesterday. She had a mother on the show who had recently lost her child to suicide due to being bullied at school. He had been called gay by his peers and had been treated very badly by fellow students. I was so saddened by this poor mothers story. But, what really struck me was Ellen's idea. She said that she had been bullied when she was in school as well. She would like to see all school districts start a mandatory class that starts in Kindergarten and teached fare treated, compassion, differences in people, and such things. I thought it was a marvelous idea and so agree with her. I wonder how much opposition such a thing would get and what your thoughts are on this. Thank you and give your kids a big kiss and tell them you love them.
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@TLChimes (4842)
• United States
23 Apr 09
I think it's a great and much needed idea. Why is it those of us out side the system can see what needs to be done but the powers that be (the government and school leaders) can't?
@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
23 Apr 09
That is a very important question.
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• Canada
23 Apr 09
I agree fully on this one. I too was bullied in school and when the teachers did see it, nothing was done. I think starting children off early (in their formidable years) to love one another and have respect and compassion is a great idea. How many kindergardeners do you know that have hate or are racist, etc? Yeah, not many, if any. So, to teach a child early that its better to be nice than to be mean is wonderful. Now, I think school boards may not push us away as they have implemented a zero tolerance policy in most schools now, so something like that would be a welcome idea I think.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
23 Apr 09
I agree. I wonder if sports was supposed to do this in some way. Not sure. Just had that thought. Yes, the zero tolerace policy may really be a good way of getting this implemented.
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@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
24 Apr 09
YUP that would be a good idea but also the parnets need to show and practice such things at home to so that the kids start learning early. I had som ebulling when I was in school but didnt last long when I called them on it or knocked them out!
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
Oh, I sure agree with parents needing to start the whole thing at home. They just don't and even some who do have problems. Good for you! You tough ole bird you!
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
24 Apr 09
thanks lol
@bunnybon7 (36431)
• Holiday, Florida
24 Apr 09
i didnt see it but saw something on the early show about a 9 yr. boy killing himself over being bullied. its wrong for whatever reason. its so sad and something really needs to be done about it as its happening more and more now that people are not able to or refuse to correct their kids and teach them to respect other human beings.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Apr 09
I sure do agree. For whatever reason it just isn't happening at home now days. I think we need to go back to the Waltons way of life. Thanks.
@signum (547)
• Australia
24 Apr 09
You know, my dear best friend got bullied at school because he is gay, and there was nothing that we could do about it because it would often be him against a large group of nasty kids. He never really went to any teachers about it as he felt so ashamed, but in general, I think he should have as we had a wonderful group of teachers at our school and I think they would have tried to help him as much as possible. I think Ellen's idea is brilliant. I just cannot believe that in this day and age we are still dealing with sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.
@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Apr 09
I am so sorry to hear about your dear best friend. Sad because some of the nicest and most caring I have ever known were gay. It was his decision not to go to the teachers and I can certainly understand and respect his feelings. Sad. Ya, I think Ellen has it going on. Thanks for your response.
@SomeCowgirl (32270)
• United States
24 Apr 09
I think that things like this need to be taught in school so that bullying doesn't happen. I hope that schools can start implementing the idea, but I'm sure it'd take a lot of hard work to get school districts to agree.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Apr 09
I so agree! I hope schools will do this as well. Thanks for your response.
@Citychic (4078)
• United States
24 Apr 09
Wasn't sure what category? I"m with Ellen on this one, I'm not for bullying and I do wish that something could be done about it. I didn't get a chance to see the show but I do know that a stop need to be put to this kind of trauma.........
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
I glad to know you agree as well. This trauma seems to be pretty prevelent. Sad. Thank you for your response.
@winterose (39918)
• Canada
24 Apr 09
I think it is a wonderful idea, here in our schools we have a morals and ethics class that kids from elementary school, I am not sure if it stops bullying though
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
I think they should add something about bullying in it. Thanks.
• United States
24 Apr 09
I can sympathize with being bullied in school as well. It was tough and it started in third grade and continued up until my junior year in high school. In senior year everyone seems to grow up rather quickly and mature, go figure. I think that this class that Ellen suggested is a wonderful idea that the school districts should consider. And as if this idea was even hard to come up with! Here is the funny thing, school districts are always complaining that parents ask for so much to be done about things at school but do not give their opinions or ideas on what should be done, but the minute that somebody suggests something, it costs too much or it has unrealistic expectations. Unbelievable! When I go to American Idol this year, if I make it, then I will use any popularity gained from the show to aid this cause. Its a wonderful idea on Ellen's behalf.
@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
It must be that everyone ,at some time or another, has been bullied in school. It is tough. Teachers aren't paid very well and they would probably have to give up some of their own time and another class may go by the wayside. It is a wonderful idea on Ellen's behalf and I think it sounds just like something she would do. She is a great human being. Thank you for your response.
• United States
24 Apr 09
Celtic- I didn't see Ellen's show but there was just a segement tonight on our local news WCCO-4 here in Minnesota about a meeting today on the state capital about providing education about differences and acceptance amongst the gay community. We've now seen stiffer rules put in place for such bullying, and bullying extended to now include harrassment of this nature in it. I will have to go look up Ellen's show to view this mother's story. As a teacher I can say that I think it depends upon the part of the country you are in. When in Arizona teaching I was fought constantly by parents in regards to this this type of teaching. They believed it should be handled at home. Even administration thought that. I had a person call a girl a "K--" (the derogatory term used by the Nazi's during WWII for Jewish persons) and the administration asked what was so offensive!! Here in Minnesota there seems to be more things being done proactively to encourage diversity, etc. We have a private school downtown that is devoted to the teachings of Gandhi that works quite a bit with this idea. It's a wonderful school. Currently I'm a stay at home mom, and I know that my own children are growing up to learn to respect everyone regardless of their gender, faith, preferences, etc. They have two "Grandmas" in one household so they are exposed to this. Namaste-Anora
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
Marvelous info. Thank you so much for you input. I have had quite afew teachers and ex-teachers respond. Great! I wish I could say I have faith in most parents to teach their children this sort of thing in the home but I just don't. The Nazi thing is apolling and the response even worse. Two grandmas in one household. That is the way families used to raise their children. Lets all go take a lesson from the Waltons. And thank goodness for places like the Gandhi influenced private school. Thanks again.
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• United States
24 Apr 09
I really like her idea. I was bullied a lot myself growing up. I do think schools should start teaching kids that. BUT...I also think it's not the school's responsibility either. Parents should have a big influence or whatever with teaching kids to be more compassionate. Both 'factions' need to be in on this from both ends.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
Oh, I totally agree but ,obviously, it is just not happening in too many homes. Yes, as I have always believed and it was put so well: 'It takes a village to raise a child.'
@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
23 Apr 09
Ellen's idea is great. I think it would be nice to teach tolerence to children versus havng them thrown intp a diverse world without the tools and understanding they need to be happy. No matter how sheltered children are..they will sooner or later be exposed to different people and lifestyles. This doesn't have to be a bad thing if they are taught the things they need to know. I do however think that parents may rebel in Ellen's idea. I think that alot parents want to teach their children in a certain way and at the time..doesn't think they are wrong in doing so. They don't realize the need until it's one of theirs that suffer. It's sad and children can be very cruel. I do wish there was something to help get the lesson across.Compassion,respect,tolerence. The world would be a better place.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Apr 09
Ya, I think kids come out of the shoot innocent and non-judgemental and then life screws all that up.
@ladym33 (11008)
• United States
13 May 09
I think it would be a good idea. I think the issue should be brought up at least briefly all through Elementary school, and it should definitely be a mandatory study subject in 6th grade when kids enter Junior High. Junior High students can be really cruel. They are starting to become individuals and are able to have a bit more freedom at that age, and they are all trying to fit in, and to some that means picking on other kids. It is a difficult time. My kids were never bullied until they got to Junior High. My son started Junior high this year and the bullying got so bad I had to call the school. It only got physical once, but he was being verbally abused by this one kid from day one, and who ever that kid could drag in to assist him. Kid's need to realize how painful that is to other kids.