What do you think about the site that have discrimination ?

Kuta, Indonesia
April 26, 2009 5:28am CST
We are know... some survey site, offers site are not allowed member from specific country to participate on there. Now .. the Hot news about ciao, the site block Asia member to participate on there. So what do you think for this event ? [i]if you are billionaire and have business sites. if you limit the people to participate in the site ? Do you only accept members from countries that you like[/i] ? If yes ... I thought, that is RACIST Stop Racism and make World be better !
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@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
27 Apr 09
I do not think that Ciao, as many other sites, is racist. We have to understand the vision and policies of the site. From my observations it was the fault of many members from the currently banned countries for not keeping to the requirements. Two main issues are language use and scamming activities. The use of poor English on sites like Ciao has been mentioned in myLot and several other forums. Unfortunately instead of shaping up the people who brought the matter up were seen in a negative light. The world will never become a better place if we vent our anger on the people who are actually trying to help us. Scammers would jump at any chance of making a quick buck. For review sites opinions on other sites are copied and pasted, or rehashed before being reposted. I believe all sites have a mechanism to detect this. One review every fifteen minutes? I do not think that this is possible even though the person who wrote this claimed he was honest. This is only possible if the products have been a long time on the market and this guy did use all of them. By the way this person is Asian. As for us how many products have we really used? Instead of blaming Ciao attention should be focused on the real perpetrators. If we are the owners of a site would we let the scammers and poor writers get away with it? If the majority are from a particular area the easiest thing to do is to ban everyone from this area. Banning individuals works when the number is small. all the best, rosdimy
@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
29 Apr 09
I know. I was a member of more than 400 sites. There are sites which faced a small amount of cheating from one particular region. These sites did not make a blanket ban because they were able to control the situation. There were sites which faced more than 80% cheating cases from one region. Guess what they did. In the case of Ciao there is another possible reason apart from cheating and poor English. Sponsors. Ciao is paid by sponsors which probably do their business only in certain countries. Consumer purchasing power in our region is generally lower than that of the other countries. So it makes some sense to stop paying for our region. Take my case for instance. I can make reviews on only 1 Canon printer (now obsolete), 1 Brother 3 in 1, 1 Panasonic digital camera, 1 Nikon DSLR, 1 Canon digital camera, 1 BenQ digital camera, 2 Compaq laptops, 1 Lenovo thinkpad, 1 Acer, and 1 Asus. How many of the reviewers owned the product they 'reviewed'? I am sorry for not agreeing or suppoerting you this time but as they say it, the truth can sometimes hurts us. By the way there is one site which accepts international writers and they pay a lot but the acceptance requirement is quite stringent. Many of us would probably fail the test.
• Kuta, Indonesia
29 Apr 09
you know .. every earning site always get spam or cheat trouble. But they site have difference method to clean and resolve the problem without banned one continent. One continent is Big Place and have a lots traffic
• Kuta, Indonesia
29 Apr 09
Yup .. maybe ciao hide the actual reason. by the way .. about the other review site, if you mean compared by us. I can not afford it there
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
26 Apr 09
It's not that serious actually.. If u think ciao is being a racist or whatever, then think about those ple in india.. They are not allowed to join many online earnings due to their country.. ANd yet they are not really complaining.. I guess, with each restrictions a site has, they will have their own reasons for doing so.. Take ciao as an example, if they have sufficient proof to show that asians are the majority spammers, then it's natural for them to come up with such precaution.. For they wont want some spammers to ruin their reputation at all.. ON top of that, there are too many ple abusing the whole system, thus resulting in this.. If any members of ciao wanna blame anybody, they have to blame those selfish spammers first..
@jazzsue58 (2666)
27 Apr 09
Here here! I complained to Eulance and Ciao about this, as I was sick of being taken for a mug.
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• Kuta, Indonesia
29 Apr 09
Looking for another opportunities and active on there.
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@bing28 (3795)
• Philippines
27 Apr 09
That's alright maybe they have reasons for doing it. If they think asian have lesser abilities, well that's their own opinion and they are entitled to it. Will just enjoy the site who accepts everyone and who maybe does not descriminate.
• Kuta, Indonesia
29 Apr 09
I agree with you. VIVA the site is welcoming to all people in the world
@yuhesky (142)
• China
27 Apr 09
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• Kuta, Indonesia
28 Apr 09
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@zzyw87 (1254)
• Philippines
27 Apr 09
I think it is a bit unfair for some Asian people who are actually very good in English who got banned in sites like Ciao. Sites like Ciao could have banned members who have bad English and not the whole country itself. But I would not go so far to call it "racism".
• Kuta, Indonesia
28 Apr 09
You can active at another earning site beside ciao
@tzaddi (395)
• Philippines
27 Apr 09
i think sites that discriminate other races should not be entertained because it's disrespectful and everyone should have equal rights because we're all human beings and we only differ in culture and traditions but we are all the same..ü and i agree in "No to Discrimination"..ü
• Kuta, Indonesia
29 Apr 09
Yes.. Friend, you and me is same continent. Actually ciao is not Entertain site, ciao is EARNING site I don't feel consoled when logging in ciao. But I'm active on there because making money. if the site not paying member, why I active on there ?
@mrtimharry (1180)
26 Apr 09
I am not saying it is right but the terms and conditions of ciao and other sites states that reviews need to be written in English. Some reviews that were getting written were almost incomprehensible and so there are two solutions, employ people to proof read through reviews, which means that rather than reviewers being paid, the proofreaders would be. Or ban certain countries and set up sites to be written in Chinese, Hindi, or any other local langauge. I know that sites such as Helium are looking more to establishing sites where people can write in the first language. Is it racist? probably in the broadest sense of the term but it is more about discimination on the basis of expertise, and there is no easy or cheap option for such sites to ban individuals.
• India
27 Apr 09
I would say its racist coz the simple solution would have been to have an option which would give CIAO right to discard any review which would not meet its standards. Banning Asia also means banning a lot many Asians who can write better English than many for whom English is the first language. This is about writing and not speaking so one cannot judge by whether English is the first language or not. And while we talk of first languages, there’s of course a difference between first language and mother tongue…so the ban in a sense discriminates in one whole sweep, against those people too for whom English is the first language but not the mother tongue while promoting those countries where English is the first language (Or mother tongue?) By this logic it would indeed have to ban almost the entire Europe barring UK!
• Indonesia
29 Apr 09
Ok, I think you got many thoughtful opinions already about Ciao. Regarding the survey sites, I think that's not racist at all. Surveys are done for specific purposes. As a marketing tools, most surveys are conducted to figure people opinions and acceptance about newly-launched or upcoming products. Many products are being marketed to certain areas or countries due to the nature of the products. It is in that areas the surveys are conducted. You know, it doesn't make sense to do surveys in Indonesia for a product you want to market in UK, right?
• India
26 Apr 09
Apart from the language thing and spamming and cheating and what not reasons these sites give, I think recession has a big hand to play for the bans. These sites are based directly from USA (Helium) or UK(Ciao) and they wish to keep their spending low and have restricted the users from their country only. I think this stage would soon pass as soon as the stage of recession ends. bourne
• Kuta, Indonesia
28 Apr 09
Yup .. The recession is logic reason, but site owner is shy to told this
@ada547612 (203)
• China
27 Apr 09
I think there is nothing wrong with your point of view, but it can not blame those who survey sites, based on the credibility issue, many countries members of non-compliance with this condition, with the result that those sites had to accept restrictions in certain countries.
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
It may not be racism at all and they may have good reasons for doing so. But this move is totally wrong. If they think there are lots of people from Asia submitting trash materials, there are other means to prevent this. Pre-screening of members is much better than banning a whole continent. The site could have made a policy that ban members who submits more than five or ten crappy writings. Limiting number of article submitted per day for new comers could have been implemented too to discourage spammers. As for the additional work of proofreading articles, there are lots of grammar and spelling checker in the web available now. If an article can't pass a certain threshold, then the article should automatically go to the trash bin.
@John4Christ (1597)
• India
29 Apr 09
Somewhere i agree and somewhere i don't..... there are some sites which pay us for reviewing that product.....now suppose that product is available only in the US and only for the people of US then whats the point in selling it to the other countries or rather giving it away to test it....... But when it comes to writing reviews, write some short stories, etc I feel it is absolutely wrong.....I guess they feel all the Asians and other countries where English is not their first language do not know any bit of English....which I fell is not right....offcourse we are week in our grammar sometimes but what really matters is how well we portray what we have to say..... and btw sites like ciao have a simple option of rejecting the topics which they feel do not match upto their standards.....why ban them.....its really rude when you are not allowed somewhere to post your views or write something..... and the problem is if one of the sites does it most of the others follow suite.....I am just keeping my fingers crossed as to other site should not do this.....it would really be bad.....