Avian/Swine/Human Flu Virus and Boarder security

United States
April 26, 2009 4:55pm CST
With the advent of this crazy virus that is killing people in Mexico and starting to infect people in the US, boarder security types are screaming "I told you so" at the top of their lungs. Do you think that if we had tighter security on the boarder this spread of infection would have been slowed, or do you think it would have made it across anyway due to legal immigrants and vacationers.
8 responses
@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
27 Apr 09
i know my response has nothing to do with borders and security... but i just want to make a comment on the swine flu... didn't God said not to eat pig??? now we know why... we were watching news here and my husband commented, because we people are stubborn, didn't God said a very long time ago, not to eat pigs because they are unclean??? ========================================================== i hope that flu wont reach here as we are in a poor country, and if it does, boy many people will surely die because where are we gonna get the medicines for it, and many people here are soooo poor they cant even buy food for their family, much less buy medicine for that flu.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
28 Apr 09
You don't get swine flu from eating pigs. It's an airborne virus.
• United States
29 Apr 09
Speaking of which, Initial reports, had this as a 3 way crossover with Avian as well as Swine and Human. Have they dropped the Avian lable or is it just not reported on because it doesn't sound as cool. I know it seems an insignificant side point, but a three way cross is excedingly rare and may give a little insight as to where the virus came from and why it seems to be more virulent in Mexico.
@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
28 Apr 09
i know... my response is incomplete... ok if human dont eat pigs, then there will no be swine farm / or swine industry. then nobody would've catch it and spread the virus. "people who work with poultry and swine, especially people with intense exposures, are at risk of infection from these animals if the animals carry a strain that is also able to infect humans. SIV (swine influenza virus)can mutate into a form that allows it to pass from human to human." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu =============================================== what i was trying to say is that, if we dont eat pigs nobody will have farms for pigs and no one would've catch the virus and then pass it to others...
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
27 Apr 09
Unless we encase the U.S. in a bubble and forbid travel, people are going to bring diseases in from a number of countries. The people who are currently sick in Kanasa caught it on vacation in Cancun so there's really no way to put the blame on a single group.
• United States
29 Apr 09
Cuba has banned air travel to/from Mexico temporarily. Not that I advocate following Cuba's example in many area, but maybe screening might be something to consider.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
26 Apr 09
The outbreak is not happening in the border states anymore than it is happening in the Northern states. It is American tourists who are bringing it in and now we are catching it from them. They can trace this stuff you know. Usually the flu comes to us from the Orient via tourists. Does that mean we should close that border too? That is where we get most of the stuff we import, plus a lot of tourists. Shalom~Adoniah
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
27 Apr 09
I don't think increased border security could have done much if anything at all. It's been travelers and business people, who have been in Mexico and brought it back, who helped spread this thing into the US and elsewhere in the world. Personally I think the WHO dropped the ball and it illustrates how badly the world is prepared to take action when there truly should be a pandemic of really deadly virus. The WHO and the national officials really. It just shows there is no way to contain things once it starts spreading. People have become so mobile. Stuff like that is spread within a day or two to other countries and into several cities within those countries.
• United States
27 Apr 09
Yeah, I don't think the borders are the problem either. From what I understand, everyone here in the US who has gotten the swine flu either traveled to Mexico themselves and got infected or, in the case of one woman, got infected by someone who went to Mexico (her husband). I doubt tighter secutity at the borders would have done much good in these cases.
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
26 Apr 09
*Border And I never heard heightened border security advocates give disease as a part of their reasonings behind their viewpoint, but I guess this is an awful convenient opportunity for them to do so.
• United States
29 Apr 09
On the contrary, I have heard this argument a lot even before this. I agree that in this case, Tourism is a bigger problem at the moment, but to their credit, Disease has been the #2 argument right behind Crime.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
26 Apr 09
Given that a lot of the Americans who are infected with this sickness brought it back with them from Mexico, I fail to see how border security plays into it at this point. I think the border security advocates should wait until it's being dragged across borders from immigrants before they point to immigration as a significantly contributing problem to this. I'm not saying that is isn't an issue or never will be one, but at the moment, the significant source of the problem is vacationers, not immigrants. I do think, however, that precautionary measures should be taken with people that cross the borders into/from Mexico. I'm not sure if this is already a policy, but if it isn't, then mandatory health testing soon after coming back to the states should probably be implemented to prevent this from becoming a serious epidemic in our country.
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
26 Apr 09
I'm in Laredo TX and live in Mexico, the border is not the problem, The air port in Mexico city is one of the busiest in the world! That should give you a clue, they are much closer to Asia as far as friends go. The mix of people there is similar to New York city. So shutting down the border as one of esteemed congressmen suggested is insane. If it becomes a pandemic as some say it might then there's no stopping it. Back in the day when pandemics wiped out thousands at a time there wasn't a global situation like there is today. I really believe it's natures way of natural cleasing! That's my opinion! tdemex border is not boarder that's kinda why we have spell check.