What to do? Choose the economy or the environment

@Debs_place (10525)
United States
April 27, 2009 8:02pm CST
If most of us with old cars would go out and buy new ones, we would probably give the economy the boost that it needs. But if we have to the option of using mass transit, we hurt the environment. If we decide to not buy a new car, auto workers remain idle we use mass transit but the world is a better place. So what do we do (provided we can afford to make a choice and have mass transit available) - do we buy a car or use mass transit? What would be your solution to this dilemma. Personally, my minivan is well over 10 years old and getting up there in miles, I would love to buy a nice new 'green' car but can't afford it. Maybe when the prices go down a lot. I really don't have a mass transit option. A used car is in my future...maybe 2010 or 2011 if the van keeps going. So what do you thing - go 'green' or help the economy? If you were me, what would you do?
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@kholid78 (341)
• Indonesia
28 Apr 09
My family choose using mass transit. Both of my daughter use it if they go to school, so do I. Though I had been sold both of my minivan about five years ago. I prefer ride my motorbike or using mass transit. Riding a private car is very pleasing, but we can draw more fun if we can meet people to learn something. But it is just my opinion.
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@GardenGerty (105453)
• United States
29 Apr 09
That is a very positive way to look at the use of mass transit. Kind of mylot in motion.
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@kholid78 (341)
• Indonesia
29 Apr 09
thank you njoy
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I like that...mylot in motion! Cute. I wish I truly had the mass transit option but I really don't. I have considered getting a motorcycle at least for the good weather but my husband is not too fond of that idea.
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@Polly1 (12648)
• United States
28 Apr 09
My bank account chooses for me. I won't be buying any kind of car in the near future. I have a 1978 gas guzzling car, needlessly to say it doesn't go much. I would love to have a new car, but who can afford one. I do feel that our economy will improve and soon too. I like to be optomistic. BTW, my "old" car still runs great.
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
Polly, what kind of car are you hardly driving and how many miles on it?
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@Polly1 (12648)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I have a maroon 1978 Mercury Marquix with crushed velvet interior. Everything works on it except the rear window defroster. I even have the original 8 track tape player, it works and I still have tapes from the 70's that I play. It has less the 80,000 miles on it. It still runs and looks good. Its a big car, you feel safe riding around in it.
@seared (247)
• China
28 Apr 09
oh, good and hard question. if I were you, I think I will choose mass transit now, and try to save enough money and buy a nice new green car later.
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@kholid78 (341)
• Indonesia
28 Apr 09
I almost same with you, I will choose mass transit considering if we buy a new car though amount of private transportation will become more and more huge. It's very dangerous to environment and adding number of accident possibility. njoy
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I don't really have a mass transit option. If I took or local mass transit to work, I would still have to walk about 6 miles.
@ra1787 (501)
• Italy
28 Apr 09
I personally use mass transit for many reason: first is that it takes less time to commute by trains&subway than by car in the massive traffic jams of a city like rome, the second is the economic one 150€ annual public transport subscription against 700+ € for the auto insurance alone, the third is that this way i avoid burning precious fossil fuels that sooner or later are going to be depleted, the 4th is that driving in the traffic makes me nervous, while sitting in the train reading is much more relaxing. Obviously i am fortunate that i have subway and train station near my home and near the university. Many people don't really have a choice, they either drive a car or stay home, since my city is not very bike-friendly (no reserved lanes).
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
you are very licky..I understand driving and stress. Once around the Chicago look and i aged 10 years.
@jayrene (2712)
• Philippines
28 Apr 09
we have an old car, its an 89 model. and it runs on water. last year my husband had finished with his project hydrogen fuel and had successfully installed it in our car. it's running perfectly. we still use gas but not that much as we used when we haven't got that hydrogen fuel device in it. we are planning on buying a van (when we have the extra money for it), but not the new ones as they are expensive, preferably some late 90s model or early 2000s, and we will install the hydrofuel there also. here's the video of our car with the water power if you want to see it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Npt0eYA4U if only the government will just take a look at these inventions, we wouldn't be in such a mess right now. Dingle had invented a water powered engine (no gasoline needed), and what did my govt (Philippines) do? ignore him... and now other country are the ones using his invention because they bought his patent. we would've have depended less on oil companies and have helped the environment at the same time.
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
That is cool that your husband could do that. Was it difficult? Does it affect the acceleration? My mini-van is a 4 cylinder and can't get out of it's own way...if it slowed down any more..it would never get out of the driveway.
@jayrene (2712)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
it took him 3 months i think before he was able to test it in our car, and there were modifications too. but it really helped, not only are we saving fuel are car now runs smoothly. sometimes when he do modifications on it and he takes it off from our car, when we use it, there's a big difference, we can really feel it. you know how old car is, you hear some sounds, etc... but with that device in our car, there's a lot of improvement. have you watched the video? read the comments too there, it's explained there some of the how does it work, is it okay questions of the the viewers. for our fuel consumption a 100 pesos ($2)gasoline will last for 5 days, and it is used daily, traveling 16 kilometers (to and from work)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Our best option I think, is to go "green" as much as possible. My truck is 9 years old now and it has over 140,000 miles on it. I intend to keep it until repairs cost me more than having a new car would! I financially cannot take that plunge right now. So... I ride mass transit when I can.. because they are running anyway, whether I ride or not! I walk or ride a bike as much as is feasible. I drive as little as possible, and hope to set up a savings account to go green as soon as I can!
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
Yup, by this summer I hope to have a new used car account as well. I bought my van 11 years ago for cash and I saved for 8 years and wish i could do that again but it is not in the cards.
• United States
29 Apr 09
Boy oh boy.. do I hear that! My cards and your cards must look pretty similar to each other!! Are we just building card houses that topple? I certainly hope not!
28 Apr 09
Hi Debs_place, I would prefere to go green but at trhe moment its impossible for us, we have just bought a second hand car from a friend, its a smaller car and used less petrol(gas) so I don't mind that at all, its a good little car, its just getting usd to it thats all. Tamara
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
You know, I currently have a 4 cylinder caravan. Not small but it gets good mileage and during the day for work I drive a 12 passenger suburban. Bigger and awful mileage. When I get in a regular car, I am white knuckled...I now get very nervous sitting that low. I do not feel safe in a car. I really would love to get 4 wheel drive. I work out in the boonies, the roads are often treacherous and one lane roads are usually the last to be plowed.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
28 Apr 09
I don't really know what the solution would be, however most of us are not finacilly able to buy a new car/truck etc...I have a 2002 Mazda p/u and i will have to keep it until the wheels fall off...
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
By new, a mean a new used car, one that is in better shape than what I am driving now. Which would not be too difficult. It took us almost 20 minutes last weekend to get the key out of the ignition. I wish my car was a 2002...I would be thrilled with that. The way I see it, my van will have close to 250,000 miles before I can afford a different car.
@yuguoli (83)
• China
28 Apr 09
My idea is neither for the GREEN nor the ECONOMY. If you really think about this, you may get confused all by yourself. What to do? And what to choose? Here's an option for you to choose if you have to cut off one of your hands, which would you choose? It's an example. For the best solution, we cannot simply choose one according to disadvantages of that one, because you know, the other has its own disadvantages too. Hence, we don't choose one. When you really need a car, just buy one. Sometimes we common people have to leave some problems to the experts, right? lol. Don't think too much, buddy.
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
Then you are placing responsibility on someone else, I feel we should all take some responsibility for the situation our world is in.
@hxstar (510)
• China
28 Apr 09
Hi,Debs_place Hum,I think everyone wants a good environment while everyone wants convenience as well.So,it is not easy to make a decision.For me,I have been always wanting to buy a car,so I think I will still buy a car in the near future.However,that doesn't mean that I give up on environment.Maybe cars will be environmental friendlly when I buy one. Have a nice day!
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
The problem is that the green cars are more expensive...and if I want to buy one, it is way out of my price range.
• South Africa
28 Apr 09
There's is no decision about have one of both, economy or environment. We can have both together if we learn to produce products which you can to recycle for 100 per cent. So the economy can growing and growing and there's is no polution....
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
that is true...in a perfect world. Unfortunately I don't live in one.
@spoiled311 (5502)
• Philippines
28 Apr 09
hi debsplace! honestly, i am in jeopardy in that issue. just the other day, i saw electric lines getting caught in overgrown trees along the sidewalks of our city. in my heart, i don't want these trees cut down. we are already facing global warming and the last thing we need is to cut down trees. but those electrical wires dangling are dangerous with the trees bothering them. the best solution would be to have underground cables, but which our government could not afford. this is a long term solution that we just cannot afford now. or maybe it would take a lot of planning and a lot of reconstruction as drainage will also be affected. the short term solution would be to cut down the tress and just probably plant shrubs just to beautify the areas. but it breaks my heart to see those trees cut down. what do we do? it seems we are powerless because of the inevitable. sigh....if only i had the power to make a change. take care and God bless you! happy mylotting! :D
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
Part of the solution could be alternative energy sources, underground cables are a wonderful alternative, it means that the trees won't have to be butchered periodically and that visual pollution is minimized but unfortunately it is a costly alternative. I wish I could afford a ton of solar and wind power energy cells so that I could drop off the electricity grid.
@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
28 Apr 09
At this point and time, I would have to go with a used car. I think all we can do right now, is concentrate on making it through this. I would love to have a brand new green car also, but don't see it in my future anytime soon.
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@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I am working a second job and hoping to save money from it by next year to have a substantial down payment on a decent used car.
@spalladino (17924)
• United States
28 Apr 09
They say you have to play the hand you're dealt. If mass transit is not an option for you, it's not. If you can't afford to replace your 10 year old minivan right now, you can't. So, you do what you can for your community and the economy as best you can. Recycle, support your local small businesses and take care of your family. I'm in a similar boat. I live in a rural area and can't afford a 'green' vehicle but I do what I can to help my neighbors and my community.
@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I do recycle and I try and support local business but that is not always possible not when I can get the same items off of the internet for 40% of the cost. I am not that rich.
• Canada
19 Sep 09
My husband and I are both legally blind, so we do not have a choice in this matter. I think there are many other ways in which we can stimulate the ecconomy. Somewhere someone will always need a car, and perhaps when the ecconomy gets a little better, people will start buying more of them.
@Darkwing (21588)
8 May 09
I think if everybody were to take the decision to use mass transit, then eventually, the price of new cars would have to go down to an affordable level. I think that maybe gas might go down too if this option were taken. If nobody's buying the stock pile of cars and gas, then something has to be done to attract custom, and maybe this would just do the trick. Brightest Blessings.
@winterose (39917)
• Canada
30 Apr 09
mass transit for me, that is what I have been doing all my life, I don't know how to drive and neither does my 32 year old son who lives with me, we never had money for a car and I don't really need one.
@tigerdragon (4297)
• Philippines
30 Apr 09
if your vehicle is still working fine, i suggest that you save up for a new one in the future. i think it i snot a matter of going green or help save the economy, it is more of savings. savings is the best solution for us individuals to help save the economy because if we don't have enough then we don not have any money to spend to help those companies to keep their employees.
@GardenGerty (105453)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I always get used cars, but with good care, our used (very used) cars get good mileage and so that is the option for us. It also helps the environment because frequently we take a junker that is an eyesore, just sitting, and turn it into a productive item, keeping it out of the landfill. Parts often are salvaged, again, benefitting the environment. I think taking good care of what you have is the best way to go.