How can a morbidly obese person lose weight without surgery?

@olydove (1209)
United States
May 10, 2009 3:39pm CST
Most people worry about losing 5, 10, or even 20 pounds but what about people that need to lose 200? Unfortunately obesity runs in my family and I am in fear for my health. My mother weights approximately 400 pounds and surgery is not really an option for her because of all the health issues she has as well as the cost. She can barely walk as it is so for her to do any kind of walking, excersize or other activity is unrealistic. How can I help her to want to be active and lose the weight? What is the best way to start?
9 responses
@LadyMarissa (12165)
• United States
10 May 09
I have a friend who weighed 450 pounds. He's down to 330 & working on losing more. He couldn't hardly walk before going on his diet. Now he walks a mile every day!!! I'm sad to say it is NOT a decision you can make for your Mom. It's something that she needs to do for herself. Diets are hard enough to follow when you have the desire to lose. When there is NO desire, then it becomes impossible!!! You might try telling her how much you love her & how much you worry about her health. That might work or it may just cause her to eat even more. You are the ONLY one who can know what to do or say...GOOD LUCK!!!
@olydove (1209)
• United States
10 May 09
Thank you all for the great advise. I agree if she hasn't the desire it's going to be almost impossible. I've even tried to say let's do it together because lord knows I need to lose weight too! I love the v8 fusion it's so good my favorite is the berry YUM! Cutting back on portions does make a lot of sense and the weight thing is an excellent idea I will try all of these and keep you all posted :) Happy Mothers Day to all and again thanks for the good responses. I am new here to MyLot but I am truly enjoying this site because I see here people are sincere and have great advise to offer. p.s.- I gave you all a plus rating :)
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@LadyMarissa (12165)
• United States
11 May 09
Oops, sorry I forgot to say...WELCOME TO MYLOT!!! You are correct, there are some WONDERFUL, caring people here!!! This is a GREAT place to have fun while learning!!! I hope you enjoy your time here as much as I have!!!
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@max1950 (2313)
• United States
10 May 09
a doctor once told me anything over 30 pounds is considered obese by doctor's. that was enough for me to lose 83 lbs and keep it off for 1 1/2 years so far. just the word got me to wake up and do something about it. now if your family runs that big you should deffinitly see a doc first. just because their big doesnt mean you'll be. get all your thyroids checked even your parathyroid there's 4 of them little suckers in your neck that cause problems. i lost by portion size alone after trying every money sucking diet out there. if you can last 1-2 weeks on portion size alone you'll have it made. i eat what i want but a little of everything. instead of that whole 16 oz steak and a large soup ladle of garlic potatoe's i'll eat half take the steak home, slice it and have it with eggs the next morning and leave 1/2 of the potato's on the plate. that xtra large slice of pie eat 1/2 leave the rest because you will eat it later at home. and i try as much as i hate it because i love milk and cheeses i dont do dairy, well i do cheat with the cheese sometimes and use yech, fat free milk or skim in cereal. hey it almost summer, stock up on all the great fruits and veggies comming your way, radishes are - calories as is cerery but if ya dont like that stuff, thats o/k drink v8 fusion "lite" only 10 grams of sugar and believe me when i tell ya it's sweet. some people are set in their ways and there's nothing you can do about it, and that sux.
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
10 May 09
Max my congratulations to you for losing the weight and keeping it off! I know it takes a great deal of self control and you should definitely be proud of yourself. I don't care much for radishes or celery but I love broccoli, lettuce, strawberries, oranges, spinach, sweet peas, carrots melons of all sorts and certain squashes mostly acorn squash. I will do my best to cut back on portions and add more veggies because I know I don't eat enough veggies and since I live with mom maybe my diet change will rub off on her. Here's to wishful thinking =)
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@Pigglies (9340)
• United States
12 May 09
I think realistically, if someone is morbidly obese they have to start with dieting. Personally, I don't like to diet and would rather lose weight by exercise. But there just aren't enough exercises that a morbidly obese person could do. I would try to move towards a vegan diet. So it's more of a lifestyle change than a diet that would ruin your metabolism and just make things worse. Instead of hamburgers, try veggie burgers. Most people I've made Boca burgers for really liked those. They're way better than turkey burgers according to my friends who tried diet programs that required those. And they're way better for you. Just start with small simple changes like that. And once some weight is lost, try to have her exercise more. For people of a healthy weight, walking isn't going to burn many calories. But when you're carrying that much weight, even a walk could really help a lot if that is possible at this point. If it is not yet possible, dieting is probably the only option until a significant amount of weight is lost. Hope that helps! If you'd like to see specific advice on how moving towards a vegan diet helps, I'd recommend looking up the McDougall program. My own mom went on that when she was nearly 200 pounds and she lost over 50 pounds. I know that's not exactly morbidly obese, but several people who are morbidly obese have used the program too.
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
13 May 09
Pigglies thank you for your response. I have considered a vegan diet as I know it is much healthier so I will definitely give it a look. I'm glad to hear about your mom losing weight, even though she wasn't morbid it still makes a huge difference in anyone's life that has some extra to lose. I have looked for Boca burgers before but I couldn't find them at our local Safeway. I will have to do some browsing online to see where I can get them at? Anyhow thanks again for your advice it is truly appreciated :)
@Pigglies (9340)
• United States
13 May 09
Our Safeway has the Boca Burgers, maybe yours could order them for you? I've noticed that store is really good about ordering food. Or they're also at the Stater Bros., Ralphs, and Albertson's out here as well, so try looking around. There might be some place that ships them, but that might end up being expensive since they're frozen. I haven't found anyone yet who didn't enjoy the Boca burgers. One of my friends is very picky and she even eats them when she's over here. At home she probably would too except she isn't into cooking many things on her own. I usually just stick the burgers in a frying pan with some olive oil. If you have a barbecue they work on that too. It's definitely good to start with foods that most people will enjoy. Just offer to do some of the cooking (if you don't already) and make some healthy food nights or something. Your mom is lucky to have you looking out for her!
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
15 May 09
Awww you're so sweet ya made me smile really. Well even though we sometimes don't get along she is still my mom and I can only hope and pray that she'll see me trying to lose weight and want to join in. It's supposed to be really beautiful weather this weekend so I'm going to invite her to go to the farm with me to see the babies,..I don't know though I guess her " boyfriend " is supposed to come over. ugh! I will check at Safeway again tomorrow when I go shopping and if they don't have them I will ask if they can order some. If not then I will try Albertsons because that's right down the road too :) We're lucky enough to live kind of in the middle of everything LOL! Good tips and I'm going to give these Boca burgs a shot because my boys love burgers so I'm not even going to tell them that they aren't actually "burgers" and see if they say anything LOL oh this is going to be fun. I thank you so much for the tips and I will keep you all posted on how things go this weekend. Wish me luck xoxoxo
• United States
11 May 09
This will probably sound a bit harsh. I dont mean it that way. But all she has to do is MOVE! In my experience, most people who are that obese hardly ever move. A person who is a healthy weight, or even a bit overweight, will shift around while sitting on the couch or shift around in bed. A person who is obese does not. It takes so much more energy to move a leg if it weighs 75 pounds than it does if it only weighs 35 pounds. (These numbers dont mean anything, I just made them up.) (I am saying 'you', I mean it as generic. So it can apply to you or your mother or anyone else that needs it!) Every movement a person makes uses calories. I understand that it can be very tiring to move when you are that obese. So take it slow. Start out by doing leg raises while sitting down or laying down. Even if it only starts as 2, it is still a start! Do 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening. The next week, try increasing it to 3. It will only take a minute or 2 to actually do, but it will help. As time passes, do more as you can. If one of the problems is how much you eat, than keep the food in the kitchen. Never bring more than 1 glass of drink or 1 serving of food into the other room. Measure out the servings so you know for sure that it is only 1. That way, when you want more your options are to not eat it or to walk to the other room. (Please note that I am not suggesting starvation. That is NEVER a good option.) These extra steps will do a lot for your health. It gets you moving, which uses more calories. It also promotes things like blood circulation and muscle building - which will ultimately make it easier to burn that fat! Something else you can try is to slowly phase out all drinks so that you are drinking only water. Start out with just 1 glass of water each day if you dont currently drink any. Then slowly build up. I built up by drinking 1 glass a day, and then 2. Eventually I said I wouldnt drink anything besides water until dinner time. Now I dont even want anything else! The biggest thing to remember is none of this will happen over night. The best thing you can do is to make small changes. If you try to change everything all at once, you will just get frustrated and quit. Start with 1 glass of water until you are comfortable with that. Then add another. Start with exercise twice a day for 2 minutes. Then add to it after a week. I know those things sound like they wont help, but they will. It will give you something to build off of. You have the best thing you can right now. You have motivation and the desire to make changes. That is something no one else can give you! Go with that! I learned a lot of what I know from www.sparkpeople.com. I suggest checking them out for more advice.
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
12 May 09
derlila I am registering for sparkpeople my lord I didn't even know about that site! It's unbelievable I find it so awesome the owners what they're doing for everyone. It's asking me who referred me I would like to put you but I'm unsure if your username is the same there as it is here? To let you know I am successfully drinking more water and I am trying to drink less coffee. Yesterday ( it's now 12:22 AM here lol shame on me ) anyhow yesterday I only had 2 regular size cups of coffee, and I drank 2, 32 ounce glasses of ice water. YAY! Also went and did some work on the farm cleaning stalls and feeding the horses and I will be working all day tomorrow. The good news is LOL when I'm at the farm she gets up to make supper and what not. I know that sounds bad but it's getting her to move too so me being at the farm working is good for both of us :)
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• United States
12 May 09
That is awesome! I am so glad to hear that you are doing so well. I felt the same about Sparkpeople when I first joined. I wish I would have known about it sooner! (my name on there is sarah.picozzi) I am not on there as much as I was at one point because I am having problems with it being too slow on one of the computers I use. I do have some pictures and posts about the things I have gone through on there. I think it is great that you are finding ways to get some exercise for yourself and it also encourages your Mom to move around a bit! Feel free to send me a message on there or on here. I would love to hear how things go for you. And I will give you any advice or answer any questions I can!
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
13 May 09
Awesome derlila I am going to be logging in over there after I'm done here so I will put down that you referred me. I like to give credit where credit is due ya know lol. I'm so happy to have found Mylot I can see here people are truly genuine and actually do care. I have been on another social network and did make a couple of very good friends there but for the most part it became spamville so I think I'm going to talk to my few friends about this place and hopefully they will come. Today I only had 1 32 ounce glass of water because we spent almost the hole day at the farm and it's a bit chilly outside so... well I wasn't craving water today but I did make myself drink some. I had 1 cup of coffee which is MAJOR for me because I absolutely love my coffee but I know it's not healthy and I did feel much better today. UGH worked my big butt off too maybe I lost a pound LOL! I hope you're doing well and I am truly thankful to you and everyone that has helped on this topic :)
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• United States
12 May 09
Well, it is definately possible for her to lose 200 pounds. In shows like The Biggest Loser, I have seen people lose 100 pounds in 3 months. Of course, in that show they take diets too far, but if they can do it, than it definately must be possible. The average person weighing 140 pounds loses 2000 calories per day doing normal things. If that person consumes 1200 calories per day, than they will lose 800 calories per day. There are approximately 3500 calories in a pound so after 5 days, that person would lose 1 pound without any exercise. Of course since your mom weighs more than 140 pounds, she will lose more than 2000 calories per day. She should consult a doctor to see the minimum amount of calories she should be consuming and try to stick to that. She will lose weight regardless of how much exercise she does. After she loses enough weight, than she can start doing exercises to lose weight faster. Hope I helped.
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
12 May 09
Yes you did help, when you put it into figures like that it's more understandable and makes sense. Do you mind if I ask where you learned this information? Maybe you know of a good place online where I can learn more about the calories?
• United States
13 May 09
All the information is pretty accurate, since I learned it in my health class, unless what they teach me is wrong. The only controversial fact is the amount of calories someone losing in an average day, since there is no real definition for an "average day" and everyone is different, but it should be fairly close to what is calculated www.shapefit.com/dailycalorie-calc.html This site shows you the amount of calories burned in an average day. www.healthinformationnews.com/health_by_category/nutrition/calories/calories_per_pound_fat.html This site shows the amount of calories in a pound. You can check more sources to prove that there are 3500 calories in a pound by simply typing "calories in a pound" on any search engine. Hope I helped....again.
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• United States
13 May 09
The second link will not work so just type in "calories per pound" in any search engine for info on calories per pound. Unfortunately, I am not allowed to simply copy and paste the website url, so I have to type it word for word. Sorry about that.
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@Debs_place (10551)
• United States
14 Jun 09
I am planning on losing between 80 & 90 pounds at a minimum, which is not 200 but I can add some insight. Get some light weights, let her start doing some upper body. If she can sit in a chair, get one of those bicycle things to put in front of the chair and let her ride, every few days add another minute or 2 to the workout. She can also start eating better, add more fruits and veggies to her food intake and start reducing high fat items. Get her to a doctor. Get her to join weight watchers. I am a devoted attendee and swear it is the right way to go. Join the weight watchers interest area, there are a few of us there with some hints that talk.
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@Debs_place (10551)
• United States
14 Jun 09
I forgot go to the style network website and search for RUBY...she started her weight loss journey last year at 500 pounds and has loss a 100, her new season starts on TV on July 5th...with the next leg. She is so cute and a great motivator.
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
27 Jun 09
Oh yes I remember seeing about Ruby I think on Oprah. Hey these tips you have listed are excellent ideas. Unfortunately Monday she broke her leg, well it's a long story but needless to say she's gotten onto this website called tagged, and made a few friends, she even got the guts up to get out and go to a "meet and greet" well she met a couple of really nice people one lady is very nice, and a couple of guys too. Well she went to the park to meet this guy and walk around with him ( I wasn't thrilled about her meeting some guy that she'd only met a couple of times before in a bar ) but she was going to be in a park in the day time and she is an adult so I can't stop her I can only voice my opinion. The plus to this is she's finally got some motivation to be active and out of her bed!!!!!!!! So back to my story, she went to meet this guy they walked around the park, she over did it and her right knee gave out on her as she's not used to walking so much, she went down on both knees and in the process broke her left leg. Thank God the break is not as bad as we originally thought and she should heal up just fine but now I don't get it..... she wants to up and about and moving, which she can't do now because of her leg... I swear I don't know what to do with this woman ROFL
• India
11 May 09
This type of person can loose weight slowly slowly. May be it takes more then 2 year to loose weight for this type of person. Apart from that good excercise and balance diet is also required.
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• India
11 May 09
the most important thing to lose weight is to decreae your calorie intake. I addition , you should take regular exercise and yooga therapy can be helpful to reduce weight . But most important thing is to stick to your schedule and one should be regular indoing exercise.
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@meandmy3 (2229)
• United States
10 May 09
You can start by having her change her diet, and lifestyle. She can do some exercise. At this point picking up a weight and doing arm lifts would be a great option or anything that is low impact and would not require a lot of excretion. There are many web sites out there that can help and advise you as to exercises that will work to get her started on her journey.