Boy gets sent HOME from school for wearing a Kilt?!

@Lakota12 (42684)
United States
May 18, 2009 9:53am CST
Not sure if every one know what a Kilt is but is a skirt that Scottich people wear with the clans colors or tartan colors. Always been a question if they wear anything under it still not sure of that one. But On the news this morning her in Vegas. A boy had wore one to school for a class project and got sent home for being dressed improper? Now I would say thats going way to far. as he was showing what the men wear in Scotland and was prepared to talk about the custom. Later he got an aplogy from the principal. What do you think about this? Was the kid proper or not!?
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
18 May 09
If the boy is of scottish parentage or orginin and if the kilt was related to his project then yes, he should be allowed to wear it. The kilt only swings from the thighs down so it doesnt show what is underneath in a high wind! It was normal not to wear anything underneath it but nowadays men often do wear a brief. The sporran (pouch) is worn in th fron of the kilt below the belly and is heavy enough to weigh the kilt down. Kilts are also worn in other celtic people - Irish and Cornishmen. It is their national dress and different colours of the tartan belong to different clans or families. It is a great heritage and I am glad that the principal apologised.
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@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
That is cool I have IRish in me but I dont think my grandma ever talked about our men wearing kilts are if we even had a tartan now I wish she was alive so I could ask her all the old ones are gone. I am glad I started this post I am learning alot! from it. My grandma on dads side was a Kelly
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
19 May 09
Hi lakota, I am of Irish blood too. Kelly is a very Irish name. Go online and check it out.
@Colmuc (708)
18 May 09
Hi Lakota, A kilt may look to the uninformed like a skirt but it is a very carefully made garment which requires a high level of skill and uses about 5 yards of material. The folds are all done in such a way to retain the pattern of the tartan. I can only say if it had been my son I would have been very proud of him and the teacher would have had a very unpleasant visit. What an idiot to arrange a class project and then reject an example of one of the finest examples of national dress. I have proudly worn my kilt all over the world and never had a negative comment made to me. Many customers specially requested that I visit them wearing my kilt. Hears tae us! Wha's like us!
• United States
18 May 09
Kilted Scotsmen - Queen seems happy with the man next to her
I do not know what you wear under your kilt but in your comment to my response you seem to think I was lacking in knowledge. However my male family members always wore their trews under their kilts for most functions. No wonder the Queen is smiling in the photo...
@Colmuc (708)
18 May 09
Sorry whiteheather, you got me quite excited with your Scottish experiences and I put my comment about the picture in the wrong place. I would like to know where you found the picture. Please let me know. Many thanks and my respect for your comments.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
I know AS a parent I would have been very upset too. and thanks for a description of how one is made. I do know that they look nice and really even in the pleats and every where. and the men I have seen wera one are very proud of it!
• United States
18 May 09
Naturally being Scottish I think this was very unfair. Especially as the boy was prepared to give an explanation on what his kilt meant. BTW a Scotsman wears trews under his kilt but way back in the old days they did not wear anything so that they could (if necessary) expose their manhood and scare off their enemies??!! (or maybe tempt the lassies )
@Colmuc (708)
18 May 09
Hi young lassie, Your experiences with Scotsmen has been somewhat limited. Lift a few kilts and get some surprises.
• United States
18 May 09
Colmuc I can assure you that my experience with Scotsmen was extremely thorough. My German husband reaped the many benefits of my Scottish experiences having lived in Scotland during all my formative years. BTW my ex husband still lives in Munich (your town of record) and he is still smiling!!!! You must just be jealous!!!
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
18 May 09
I just knew you would come up with the right answer and what are the things you say they wear under is it like underwear? LOL and to scare off hthire enemies did it work?
@techgurl (451)
• Greece
18 May 09
If he wasn't lifting his kilt up, then he shouldn't have been sent home :) I think the reason is because the principal probably didn't even know what a kilt is or he thought the kid was wearing it as a joke.
@Colmuc (708)
18 May 09
If a school principle does not know what a kilt is then the American education system is badly in need of revision.
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@techgurl (451)
• Greece
18 May 09
Good thing the boy didn't come with bagpipes. He might have been expelled :)
• Philippines
18 May 09
AHAHA! or maybe the principal is a closet gay. got jealous coz he can't dress up like the boy so he sent him home.
@owlwings (39050)
• Cambridge, England
19 May 09
This sounds like one of those typical stories where one hand does not know what the other is doing and the principal was too busy with more important matters to either ask for or listen to the boy's explanation. There are principals who got where they were because they were because they are management material with excellent people skills and there are principals who made it because they were, to be honest, better administrators than teachers ... and then there are those who took up teaching because they loved the 'power' aspect and all they wanted to do was to have their own school which they could run as a 'tight ship'. I will refrain from saying where I think this particular principal fits in but I am glad to hear that he had the grace to apologise. To be honest, it is one of those stories that the media pick up on with glee - a little molehill in school life that looks good (and sells copies) in the local rag. My son (who is, I calculate, 1/8th Scottish) was required to wear a kilt at his sister's wedding. I have never seen him look so handsome and manly and, to his great and lasting embarrassment, not only I but many other real Scotsmen (I do not, to my shame, have a drop of Celtic blood in me) at the wedding told him so - and that he had the legs for it. He has the right to wear the kilt (Gibson tartan) so maybe one day he will do so with pride! Bully for the young lad who was prepared to go to school in a kilt in order to educate people - BOOO to the educator who put convention above education and did not accept that he, himself, could be educated!
@owlwings (39050)
• Cambridge, England
19 May 09
Ach y fi! (which is Welsh, now I think about it) "There are principals who got where they were because they were because they are management material" ... ignore the bit I've underlined ... editing goes cranky here.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
I realy can figure out which kind you think he is. and I never saw this in a Local rag was just on teh New. Yes BOOO to him s channel!
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@owlwings (39050)
• Cambridge, England
19 May 09
News channels tend to look at local papers and other small local news media for this kind of story. Then they blow it up into something it was never meant to be - let's face it, it was just a school misunderstanding and example of bad management that should never have gone beyond the education reporting system. I am not a teacher but have been around teachers, one way and another, all my life, so I know that they are human and make mistakes. I hope the principal was just having a bad day and is normally a good teacher and administrator - the trouble with this kind of story is that you can never tell!
@TLChimes (4842)
• United States
19 May 09
Even if the principle said he was sorry, what he did still leaves an impression on the boy. It was a project not a stunt. I hope the boy remembers the lesson his principle taught him.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
and just what did the principle teash him that the fleller was an bigot! Or if not that but a very uninformed person
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@TLChimes (4842)
• United States
19 May 09
what an idiot.
• India
19 May 09
Well I am pretty surpirsed as the principal's attitude...imporper dressing as to what? Is it improper to dress in the traditional attire for school project adn then tell others' about it? I dont think so, the the principal's apology is not requried, the incident itself should not have happened. Knowing children adn their impressionable minds, this incident would more likely scar his mind for a long time.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
oh I hope it dont scar him at all. Just a tad maybe and the parents can tell him that the principle was wrong in heis reaction and that there was nothing that he the kid was wrong in any way!
• India
21 May 09
Thnx for the BR and if I were the kid, I would have carried that embarrassment with me for long.
• United States
18 May 09
There is one thing that will easily determine the answer to this question. What was the length of the kilt? I know that many schools have a 'finger tips' or 'knee' rule with skirts. (The bottom of the skirt has to reach your finger tips with you hands at your sides. Or the bottom of your skirt has to reach your knees.) As long as he was still within those guidelines, then there is no reason he should have been sent home! Im glad that principal gave an apology, but it probably shouldnt have happened in the first place. As a parent, I would have been livid! It is amazing what double standards do still exist!
@Colmuc (708)
18 May 09
If the young lad was correctly dressed and I think he would be his kilt would be level with his knees. When you go down on your knees the kilt should be just touching the floor. In any event they can hardly expect rules to be adhered to in a national dress project.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
18 May 09
most kilts that I have seen come just at the knees. and as a school project he shouldnt have been sent home!
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
24 May 09
I would say he was proper. I mean Scottish people were kilts and I think if the teacher checked into things, he or she would realize it. Sometimes the schools are going a bit too far. And if it was a school project, then the teacher should not have sent him home. The trouble is that the apology came after the fact, like it does in many cases, after the student did not receive the diploma, after the broadcast had been made, etc. You just cannot go back and replay time again. The class project was probably over. Maybe they should, if they taped the school project, delete the video or the dvd, and make them do it all over again. After a few times of dong that, then the teacher will think more careful before sending someone home.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
24 May 09
It was the Principle that sent him home. But still I hope the kid got to do his thing. as I neer heard another thing on it!
@MsTickle (24962)
• Australia
24 May 09
I can't see why anyone, anywhere would have a problem with this. It may not be the norm but if a child chooses to wear a kilt I don't see why he shouldn't, especially under the circumstances of doing a school project. He could have taken the kilt, sure, but to wear it was a much more satisfactory way of demonstrating his project in my opinion. His mode of dress was different but certainly not inappropriate or definitely not improper.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
24 May 09
I know being sent home made no sence to me! at least he got an apology
@gtargirl (5385)
• United States
22 May 09
Sure he was. That was the proper attire for his class project. I'm glad the principal apologized.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
22 May 09
me to othanks for responding!
@celticeagle (117561)
• Boise, Idaho
20 May 09
Ya, just not paying attention and not trusting kids.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
20 May 09
so true!
@celticeagle (117561)
• Boise, Idaho
19 May 09
That was weird. I wonder what the rules on clothing there are. Maybe that was it. I would think that the boy could of checked ahead or wrote a letter to the principal for an okay. That is just silly and I am glad the principal had it going on enough to give him an apology. I am empressed by that. I think it was too far for the principal to send him home. But they do have to go by the rules too so, again, I wonder if that how the principal was thinking.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
20 May 09
Idont know but as a school project I wouldnt think he would have to ask to wear it. Just a dumb principle!
@bellaofchaos (11550)
• United States
19 May 09
freaking ridiculous what is the principal the fashion police now. where does it say that a male can not wear a kilt or dress or skirt to school. I mean seriously are they going to start requiring that all females only wear dresses and skirts? I hope that the teacher understood and that he didn't fail his project due to the lack of the principals understanding and judgement. I wish that the principal would get a suspension with no pay for being that judgemental.. sigh and shakes head.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
I agree with you. 'and here they have dress code that girls wera skirt and blouse and boys wear pants and polo shirt. They did this in all schools here for to many was wearing really oyutlandish clothes also would torment the ones who couldnt afford to buy designer jeans!. But this was wrong for it ws a school project ans I have heard no rants or anything else about it since real early yesterday moring . So guess they had to cut the talk about it ya know that damn Gag order!
@chillpill90 (1937)
19 May 09
i feel that the scchool are out of order and they should have at least asked him to change. Surely his parents thought there was nothing wrong with it or they wouldnt have sent him to school wearing it. I think the headmaster is weir i mean how has he offended him. Just sounds like a school going to far.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
yup really went to far thanks for responding!
@Philbo (579)
• Canada
19 May 09
Here is a kid trying to do his best on a school project. The decision to send him home for wearing a kilt was not just wrong it was stupid. Dress code, propriety... I don't think this was even close to the line. The apology was the least the school could do. I hope he aced his project.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
I also hope he did too never heard antother word about it after that first statement on our new station.
@winterose (39921)
• Canada
19 May 09
I think that principal was wrong, this is absolutely crazy,
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
Yes he was and yes it is.
@urbandekay (18312)
19 May 09
Sounds like cultural oppression if the boy was Scots all the best urban
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
HIs background is Scot. am glad he was apoligized too also thanks for your input!
@gabs8513 (48717)
• United Kingdom
19 May 09
Yes he was proper and I think that was disgusting what happened there There was no need for that as you say he did it for a Lesson, not to be awkward if he would have been in ripped Jeans and T shirt just to retaliate then ok but not this
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
HUgsa nd thanks for imput I feel the same!
@jazel_juan (15767)
• Philippines
19 May 09
there is nothing wrong with that plus it is part of their culture..and it is a way for him to educate his classmates on their culture! and at least the principal apologized and admitted mistake
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
19 May 09
So true and thanks for responding!