There is too much favouritism in here

July 6, 2009 3:56pm CST
I really do hope this discussion won't get deleted as I feel I need to get this off my chest for the benefit of everyone. For the last two weeks I have been observing all the activities here in my lot and I have noticed that certain my lotters are highly favoured against other my lotters. A certain new comer started a very interesting topic and for the whole two weeks this new comer did not get any response. Now a regular my lotter started the exact same discussion yesterday and they received 93 responses. I went in to look at the discussions that this regular my lotter posts and noticed that the majority of their discussions have responses from the same individuals. I felt so sorry for the new comer that I went and responded to their discussion. This person was so grateful and happy he recieved a response but I really was not happy about this. How in the would are the newcomers supposed to feel when their discussions are being stolen by some person who doesn't have the decency of coming up with their own idea? I've also noticed that the discussions that these certain mylotters start never get deleted regardless of how many negative ratings they get. Is this really how my lot is going to end up as another waste of time forum? I have found my lot to be the best place to be but I feel that everyone should be treated equally and not others get deletions on their discussions and others who have the same discussion still have their discussions. So this is more like a plea.. please my lot admin could you do something about this as its harming the good name that my lot has produced. Anybody else notice this??
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@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
6 Jul 09
There are two different matters to discuss in your topic in my opinion. One is favouritism and one is plagarists. I have been here over two years now. The first year I spent entirely in the money interests (things were much different there then with fewer Lotters and fewer scams and there were real interesting discussions). Just over a year ago I moved out of the money interests and knew very few Lotters in the rest of the whole site. It was as though I was almost a 'newbie' again but I went here there and everywhere, joining in, making friends and gathering responses on the few discussions that I started. I noticed those Lotters who gained many responses and admired them then just as I do now and when I saw anything not quite as it should have been I questioned it, reported it but never did I start a discussion complaining about the state of things. Actions speak louder than words so I reported and started discussions helping the new users, trying to guide them. They should not land here thinking that myLot is all about starting discussions until they have learnt what is a di cussion and how to earn from it once it is posted and receives responses. If an older user receives more responses than a new user that is NOT favouritism but a Lotter that has learnt what myLot is all about. How many new users get back and keep their discussions alive like the veterans do? As for plagiarists, they should be reported without hesitation, whether they are veteran Lotters or new ones. I was talking with a friend earlier and between us we have reported at least 12 (twelve) plagiarists in the last week! Not all of them were new users but ALL of them were dishonest and with their actions, are stealing earnings from the honest Lotters. The admins act on reports and ask us for help in getting rid of this plague. Some of us do so but it would appear that there are not enough users involved at all
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6 Jul 09
It is true that not a lot of people report plagiarists as maybe they are afraid they will booted out or something but you are right. We need to urge people to report plagiarists as they are not only stealing our earnings but also the integrity of my lot
@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
6 Jul 09
For the last two weeks whenever I found a user who was posting rsponsesor discussions copied from elsewhere (fromanother website, another discussion or another response) I pointed it out on the discussion itself. I hoped that this would make others aware and report also. I know that some of those thathad started the discussion itself did but there are stillmany others who could help. There is no need to respond or comment, just hit the (!) and report. There are other older Lotters like myself who have enough points now that we can spare a few by posting, knowing that we will lose them but we do so for the benefit of the Lot of us Lotters
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@Sandra1952 (6052)
• Spain
6 Jul 09
You're very observant, and I do think you have a point. However, in every situation, there are those who fit in and those who don't. It's not fair, but it's a fact. What can we do about it? Well, we can report if we think someone has hijacked another member's topic, and we can also make a point of responding to discussions from new users, so that they feel welcome on Mylot. If I can't find anything across the top of the page or in my interests and friends discussions, I go to new users, as I feel they deserve encouragement. I also make friend requests to new users if we have something in common, as that helps them to become established here. I don't know what else we can do, really, but hopefully a few new members will see this discussion and realise that most of us welcome their input. Nice one, Jellymonty.
6 Jul 09
Cheers Sandra and I do try my best to spread my responses. I always start of with responding to my friends then my interests and then look at the newbies section. Some of them do have great topics... but plagiarism is one virus that needs a heavy dose to get rid off!
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
6 Jul 09
I know there are cliques here but that's usually old timers! It's called friends! When I was a newbie I didn't get many responses to my discussion either, but as I got more friends my response rate increased! If I see a discussion it's only natural for me to respond to a friend, in fact my home page is set up to see discussions my friends started, and new discussions! If your telling me you would respond to a newbie discussion over a friends, I find that hard to believe! As for deleting a discussion because of negative responses? I've never heard of that But I spend my time here being positive rather than looking at deleted discussions, and comparing others discussions. I really think you should lighten up! Just enjoy it here, or maybe take a break or move on. tdemex
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
6 Jul 09
You got me all wrong, I help more newbies than you'll ever know! But your opinion is your opinion! Thanks tdemex
@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
6 Jul 09
Robert I don't want to argue with you but tdemex, even though his number is not a big one, has been here a long time and has seen what happens. MyLot is about fun and about friends. The more we all get on, the nicer our time on the Lot is and this is what what he was saying. A lot of the new users are time wasters and for those who are not here every day like you and me, it is very obvious that they will frequent their friends rather than a user who may not be here the next time they log on. I hope that makes sense.
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@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
6 Jul 09
Personally I also use 'similar discussions' and my notifiers and I regularly go to the money interests with the intent of reporting. Occasionally there is also an interesting discussion where I can respond. I am also very active in the myLot interest where the new users pose their queries. Each one of us has their own way of doing things but first and foremost it must be FUN which is the same as having a light-hearted and positive attitude. I too promote fun but I am also aware that not everyone finds their fun in the same places
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@zearah (5289)
• Philippines
6 Jul 09
I am a newbie, so far I'm so thankful 'coz I feel the warmth welcome from some mylotters. For me it's an advantage to be here, not only for the cash I could get but those friends I win. Yes, I believe there is favoritism that's normal but I do believe also in freedom so up to those concerns to be with in this favoritism, so long as there are still fair whom I could give and share with. In this world every man is a master of his own faith. Good will be rewarded and bad will be punished by God. Let's long live! Be happy and enjoy!
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@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
7 Jul 09
You are even 'newer' than your numbers make you out to be zearah! You have been so busy and that's a sign that you are having fun too - great!
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@zearah (5289)
• Philippines
7 Jul 09
Yup! Thanks to both of you seniors and to all who push me up! I would be very thankful to all with or without favoritism let's don't break the link of our circle. Let's continue make our mylot world round! The more the merrier, for all the new comers like me, cheers!
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@zearah (5289)
• Philippines
7 Jul 09
"Birds of the same feathers flock together" I'm happy and glad to land in a world of fun. Here in mylot, more than a money I win, when a senior would tell me I'm in. Thank you!
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
6 Jul 09
First of all, was it an exact copy? Because that would be a violation and should be reported. But if it wasn't an exact copy, but just a very similar idea, I can totally understand that. No way can all of us keep on top of all the discussions and avoid duplication. And as for a newbie getting fewer responses than anybody else, that's probably because they haven't built up a group of friends yet. They're more likely to get responses if they respond to other people's discussions. But what I try to do to help new people out is go check out the 'no response' and 'new user' discussions as often as I can so that they at least get some responses.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
6 Jul 09
I had the same problem.
@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
6 Jul 09
I often take some new users 'under my wing' and push them on their way. I have seen some almost give up then they get the hang of it and off they go and the next time I bump into them, because by then I am with another bunch of new arrivals, they are into 4 figures! I would love to name a few but I'm not sure whether that's quite right so I won't but from the beginning of this year onwards there have been several who have found their slot here and are part of the family now. After 3 years and over 2.000.000 discussions it's not easy for them but those who really try stand out in a crowd! The others should get what they deserve
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@TrvlArrngr (4057)
• United States
6 Jul 09
I always go into the no responses discussions and look for things to post on. I feel bad for them too.
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@mysdianait (64295)
• Italy
7 Jul 09
I feel bad for some of them but not all. Some so obviously think that they can get away with anything - and then come down with a bump!
@pyewacket (44036)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Hi jellymonty from an old-timer here...LOL As for newcomers who don't get a lot of responses, the only thing I can think of is that number one, they don't have too many friends yet, and maybe two, also don't have notifiers turned on of the friends they do have so don't know when one of their few friends starts a discussion and vice versa (meaning their friends don't have the notifier turned on of the newcomer) It seems so long ago that I started here that I forget if my earlier discussions had a lot of responses or not. One person helped me out here though early on ....he asked me for a friend and I kind of wondered as I didn't really see anything in common between us, but accepted....he then PM'd me to alert me that someone had stolen one of my discussions word for word...the topic was about a very sensitive issue in my life at that time and that copycat bozo had the nerve to copy it...needless to say I reported it and so did others and it was deleted. Believe me I don't take kindly to people who outright plagiarize here...I've caught a number of newbies (and some not even so "new") that either start a discussion that is a plagiarized copy of either other members here OR a word for word copy of an outside source...OR I find people plagiarizing all their responses to each and every discussion they respond to and they are reported. I actually wrote a discussion warning people that if I catch someone here plagiarizing they will be reported...I also even wrote a discussion (and later on an article)---HOW to find out if something is plagiarized (not too hard to find out) It's unfortunate that this kind of crap goes on here, but it seems to be a fact of life all over the internet...I used to write reviews for Ciao for instance...the first few months being there was great...then came the cheaters and plagiarizers..they not only copied from outside sources but had the nerve to copy reviews from fellow Ciao members. A whole band of us reported them like crazy. The sad news is, was that Ciao is no longer on the net...there were so many cheaters there that they closed it down Despite any negativity though that you may be feeling here jellymonty, MyLot in my view is still a great place to hang out...don't let the few cheaters get you down. There are bad apples everywhere...even in "real" life.
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@tonyllenium (6266)
• Italy
6 Jul 09
I don't know if we can speak about favouritism here..may be that one you noticed is due to some other things...such as may be the new comer seeing that they are new had not many responses because may be they posted in a topic which it is less checked by other members or just have few friends and so their discussions did not appear to that one started friend discussion and so on...i remember that when i started my first discussions here i had really low responses and so in many cases there are some similars from other members and they gained so much...so i noticed that when you are new so may be your discussions are less discussed and may eb have less visibility than other users..but afterthat i try to improve activity here and so i gained much responses to my discussions as well..in fact if you check to some discussions that they totalized zero responses all of them were when i was member for the first time...mmh..but i don't know precisely how this system cna work really just suppose that!!
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@thea09 (18327)
• Greece
10 Jul 09
i don't know about favourtism here but I did read that you should make a lot of friends, however you need friends who have something interesting to say so have to learn to be choosy. You then see them respond to your discussions and perhaps follow the discussions they are posting in to find topics which would probably appeal to you. When I first joined I didn't really bother with it as not getting responses but came back and now enjoy posting. In fact I only found out how to search around about a day ago to make sure if a subject had already been raised. I don't like it when a really good discussion has only a couple of comments when something really banal has loads.
• Philippines
9 Jul 09
I don't know bout favoritism here. I just went for a short trip so i didn't probably see the topic you were referring to. Besides there is an advantage of being a Mylot member that has a lot of friends listed here since they can see your posts of topics. Another thing to consider is that a new comer needs to get a list of friends so that they might participate in his or her topic. Although seniority is not the issue that is going to favor him or her in Mylot. About the topic of redundancy well it is rampant here. I don't know what Mylot can do to it. But if you say that the topic posted was just copied, meaning it can be a word for word exact same topic, well that is bad and that is against the rule here on Mylot. But if the topic sounds the same but the content of how the topic starter discussed it here, then it will not be any violation on Mylot. Well, Mylot should be noticing a lot of topics here for sure to get the quality needed.
@lulu1220 (1010)
• United States
7 Jul 09
I myself started a discussion this morning in a certain category and then found the same question posted but in another category. I got some responses but not many. The same with the other person. I personally do read my friends first but also look at other topics that interest me. I am trying to be a well rounded mylotter.
@neildc (17253)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Jul 09
dear jellymonty, fiirst of all things, we, here on mylot needs a bigger audience, for us to get noticed by more people. to do this, we have to start creating our own network of friends by adding friends. the more friends we have, the chances we can be noticed. i am one that started adding friends here. in my first few weeks of becoming a member, i remember feeling disappointed everytime my discussions get zero responses. but constantly i learned the way mylot should be. i also get support from my referrer and her friends, etc. everytime i see a discussion with a great number of responses, i challenge myself to make my discussions more noticeable and with better quality. in stealing topics, i can say, and i would like to say this only in my behalf, that we cannot totally accuse one member of such act. if ever we suspect one, we can start investigating and/or report them immediately. this really is one great discussion worth discussing. thank you. Neil
@lingli_78 (12844)
• Australia
7 Jul 09
interesting... i had been here for so long and i never notice this actually... nor had i felt being discriminated or unfavoured by mylot when i just came into this place... i think it is just your feelings and if you want to be sure you can ask the admin to confirm your feelings... take care and have a nice day...
@psyche49f (2511)
• Philippines
7 Jul 09
Yup, I also share the same observation...have done it in the past, but I realized it would be futile to rant, especially that the one involved is ME...LOL! I'd sound so subjective and so indulging in self-pity, I just let it go. But really...I have a lot of discussions which I think are really good, but they attract very few responses. I have been disappointed a couple of times, so I don't usually start discussions...I'd rather respond...they comprise most of my activities here...
@nehaagra (849)
• Singapore
7 Jul 09
I do not feel here's any FAVOURTISM, Its simply as new members don;t have friends yet, so people don;t look at those discussions, n soon they move to th enext page. As our friend list increases, we do check for discussions started by our friends, that it... So i feel, as a newbie, first respond to some intresting discussions, make friends, and slowly move on..
@candy2306 (577)
• India
7 Jul 09
Hi, I'm not sure as I didn't observe as you did. I think the new comer has no friends therefore his/her topic was not displayed on the list of friends or favourite. I don't think it's favouritism but that's what really happen to new comers. When I joined I have 0 response for the topics which I started. Now, I got warmed up and yea, 20 to 25 response is good for me! I don't think someone would steal the idea, but co-incidently the topic could have been same. If MyLot Admin starts to place rules for topic it will get bored in here. Just chill and let the newbie learn!
@liviurus (155)
• Romania
7 Jul 09
I think favoritism is translated as no one is interested in some newcomer...but an old one would tell his friends that I have a discussion, come and comment and I'll do it for yours....BUT THE VERY FIRST INSTANT THAT THE DISCUSSION IS POSTED. Otherwise it'll be lost in that sortie...
• India
7 Jul 09
I don't think the newcomer was purposely ignored. :) Most newcomers don't get enough responses because they don't have a large list of friends receiving their discussions in their inboxes. However, the plagiarism part of it is a big no-no. You should have reported the discussion to mylot. Was it copied word by word? That is indeed terrible. However, discussions on similar topics are always being posted on Mylot. This happens unintentionally and cannot really be called plagiarism. Cheers and happy Mylotting
@sid556 (31003)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Hi Jelly, I really haven't noticed this. I have seen some very popular people here get discussions deleted and have even been suspended from here. A popular person may get more responses but that is not the fault of mylot...it's just how it goes.
@KrauseHome (35507)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Personally I would say a lot of this would not necessarily be that people are not noticing unless no one is looking at the New discussions just started, or discussions started by New people in here. Personally I have been around here for over 2 1/2 yrs. and I choose not to show favortism to anyone. There are people I do respond back too more, and those are people who always respond back to a lot of my discussions as well. But when I see a discussion worth responding too even if they are only here 1 day I will respond. Because isn't it worth it in the long run to try and encourage more to want to stick around here for sure?