Where are these supposed jobs being created?

@Taskr36 (13926)
United States
July 9, 2009 11:01am CST
I want these Obama supporters who believe in the stimulus to tell me where this job creation is happening because I don't see it even in government. I work at a library where we currently have a hiring freeze and our budget has been slashed. In addition, they are now talking about a 5% pay cut for all staff. Where is this stimulus money? I have many friends who are teachers and half of them have lost their jobs, not to mention that none have gotten any pay raises for the last few years. I thought Obama had promised this stimulus would lead to hiring more teachers. Can anyone show me where jobs are being created or even saved? Are any of Obama's supporters willing to admit that the stimulus was bogus and a complete failure?
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Jobs are being lost, not created. The stimulus package did not go to small businesses and industry that actually create jobs, it was all about expanding the role of government and rewarding political supporters. The stimulus package has made the economy worse, not better. Every stimulus package ever passed has always failed to live up to the promises made by those who passed them. Reagan had the correct approach by reducing government and lowering taxes, and he "inherited" a much worse economy then 0bozo did.... yet Reagan successfully turned things around. 0bozo insists on using failed policies of the past from the likes of FDR and Hoover, and somehow thinks that he can succeed where they failed. He was and is wrong, and Biden admitted as much when he said that they "misread" the economy when they took office. The fact is that 0bozo and friends either have no clue as to how the economy works, or they are deliberately trying to destroy it. Keynesian Economics Theory has long been debunked as unworkable, so why are they using it? http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/07/07/stimulus-spending-making-things-iworsei-better/ http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed020309b.cfm
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@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
9 Jul 09
How dare you question the messiah in such a way!? As I'm sure you know these techniques have been used in California for quite some time now and have worked out beautifully.
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• United States
9 Jul 09
Yep, that is why Californy is in the enviable position to finance the rest of the nation's economy from it's vast surpluses....
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Obozo! OMG! I can just picture him in a big red wig and huge shoes!! Thanks for the laugh!
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
9 Jul 09
And they dare to mention having a second stimulus... they are creating a debt crisis which will cause another depression in the near future. Socialism = Failure
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@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Anyone dumb enough to back a second stimulus needs to be removed from the gene pool to prevent them from destroying our country.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Warren Buffet is saying that we need a second stimulus. I think I read that on the Drudge Report this morning.
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Obviously Buffet has his hands in something that would profit from a stimulus.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Thy brow beat Governors who don't dance to their music when they pull their chain. Here in Central Illinois I know one family- who since the stimulus that was supposed to make everyone better off - have lost around $2,000 a month in income. He is an engineer and she is a nurse - manager. Her hours have been cut down - she gets paid for 32 hours though on occasion she works 50 or 60 a week. She is planning on refusing to work any more than the 32 hours she gets paid for. One hospital has told all its employees they will not be getting their scheduled pay raises - but yet this same hospital spent $80,000 sponsoring the July 4th fireworks display. The engineer has lost all overtime pay - but on occasion gets called out to sort things out. Their mortgage payments are falling behind and they are struggling. I know of no jobs being created in this area - they are being lot on a daily basis. All the stimulus did was create work for the paper shufflers in Washington. I bet they haven't seen any cuts in pay there.
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I live in Southern Illinois and things are not much better. Social services are having their budgets cut by a third. Many say they will have to lay off employees and maybe close their doors. Thousands are being laid off from the government of Illinois. They're even thinking of releasing 10,000 prisoners or laying off 1,000 prison guards at the end of September. Where are these 10,000 prisoners going to go? To the streets? I mean, it's crazy. I foresee crime going up like crazy and not just around here in Illinois.
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jul 09
The stimulus bill was never about stimulus. It was about consolidating and centralizing power and control. It was another step in destroying the republic. It was about lessening the power of the state and making state governments puppets, ceremonial heads and token represenatives. If you thought the stimulus was about saving the economy, well I'm sorry, you were duped folks. Shame on all of you.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
9 Jul 09
The fisrt duping we got was when Obama was elected president. And it just continues.
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• United States
9 Jul 09
Uh - I am thinking way out there where you need to walk to California, Oregon, or Washington State (because cannot afford a car or a bus ride), then dive into the Pacific Ocean & swim for it, past Hawaii, (because of lack of money for a boat or boat ride). You might just get to where the jobs actually got created, if they were created.
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@clutterbug (1051)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I'm not an Obama supporter, but I hear that another stimulus package is on the way my friend, and hopefully 'this' one will be the change we've been waiting for, lol. I doubt that there will be any new jobs created that will actually LAST, some of those new jobs will only be temporary. We are being flushed into the waste treatment facility.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I wonder how much pork the Dems can shove into a second stimulus. Maybe there's another mouse that needs saving in Pelosi's area.
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Other more accurate names for a stimulus package: Pork Package Destimulus Package Wealth Transfer Package Any of these packages will drive us further into debt. They are having a hard enough of a time funding the current budget. New taxes or inflation will be required for another stimulus package, which will of course hurt the economy.
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• United States
9 Jul 09
Piasm You talk about the dems having pork in a package, just so you know the repubs where just as guilty for a good portion of pork as well. So please dont make this a dem vs repub this is more the people vs the government thing.
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I'm still waiting for Obama to stroke that magic pen and cut the water back on for 80,000 farmers in California who are all out of work at the expense of a minnow! That's an easy one to take care of. No "stimulus" needed.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Eh ... who needs farmers in this country? We'll just import all of our food from Mexico and other countries. (insert sarcasm)
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• United States
9 Jul 09
there where thousands of jobs created in pittsburgh infact 2,000 in the new caceno and 2,000 more after it opens and another 1,000 when the new areana gets done and penn dot added a few more jobs as well as saved a few also there are some people being called back to work that was laid off , so people here really are not complaining to much the only thing we are b*tching about is the gas prices as well as the food prices going up.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Maybe since these are casino jobs you should be thanking Donald Trump - it might be him that is creating the jobs - not the stimulus.
• United States
10 Jul 09
it has nothing to do with donald it's a local guy hear who ownes them but the stimulious money is helping to create more jobs for people as well as save some from all the construction that is being done and all the new buildings that are being put up.
@spalladino (17927)
• United States
9 Jul 09
**Sigh** I really don't like discussions that start out putting you in one category or another based on how you respond. I've already posted that there's so much road construction going on down here in Florida that you can't go anywhere without running into it. I heard something about projects at one or more of our airports. There's plans for an inland port which will really help my area. The railroad I formerly worked for is slated to receive around $2 million in stimulus money for track upgrades allowing them to carry heavier freight to and from the port. They will be hiring one of the many companies who do this kind of work so their employees will have work...or they'll bring in additional crews who will also be receiving paychecks. I heard on the news yesterday that they've started accepting applications for folks to work on the new Florida Marlins stadium which will be located where the Orange Bowl used to be...a job that will employ about 13,000 people altogether. Extended benefits were paid due to the stimulus and many programs in my state that were going to be cut are back in the budget. I'm sure there's more but that's all I personally know about right now.
• United States
10 Jul 09
i agree it's like that in pittsburgh as well so they are out there people just have to look for them i guess.
10 Jul 09
I agree with the OP. There seems to be a lot of hot air out there at the moment.
@tundeemma (896)
• South Africa
10 Jul 09
don't base your hopes on empty promises given by politician, they only know how to make mouth and perform less, maybe Obama should be given more time to address the issue but i believe that most world leaders may not deliver on all their promises but i do believe somehow Obama will weather the storm
@Celanith (2334)
• United States
10 Jul 09
My brother is 55 and living in his truck and cannot find any job anywhere his unemployment is about ready to run out. He said he can maybe pick cherries and other fruit for the next few months which will help extend his UE. checks. My daughter has six kids and has not been able to find work in her field she has a college degree in all four of the natural rescources they are cutting programs not hiring. My son in law her husband too cannot find work except here and there as a mechanic and they were on TANIF and now have been taken off TANIF and if not for he FIL letting them stay on his property in a small 2 bedroom house rent free they would be homeless. I know of other friends who have college degrees some masters and not finding work. Some have had hours cut but still working my sons girl friend was working 4 days a week then 3 and now only 2 and she has 3 children and on subsidized housing and might lose her housing if her job gets cut any more. Another family we know is living and camping here and there for the summer and not making it they cannot find work. My husband is unemployed right now too for the summer and because some teachers are worried about losing jobs he probably won't get called to subsitute teach as much this coming new school year. I have not seen any new jobs and we did not get any stimulus check either don't know why. Prices of food have gone up and we are really being careful what we buy and strecthing things. I have seen pizza places drop their prices low $3.99 for a large pizza or $4.99 they have cut some workers out and some might close shop if it gets worse. People are not eating out as much and eating more at home and learning to make the dollar stretch further. a little tuna or hamburger or even chicken can go a long way to make filling meals with rice, beans, pasta, Get a tossed salad and or fruit and you have a cheap healthy meal. Jobs are harder to find and I think more will be lost before this year is over and many more before this administration is over
@gewcew23 (8012)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Well Taskr they are already speaking about another stimulus package some I guess that is the answer. Once again government needs the private sector more than the private sector needs government. With the federal government running out of control threatening to take over anything with a pulse, the private sector is trimming it's belt. Which in doing so is costing state and local government revenue. Federal spend is not enough and so state and local government is having to do the unbelievable and cut spending.