Age and employment

Philippines
July 15, 2009 12:26pm CST
In Western countries, they prefer to hire employees that have extensive work experience rather than age. I heard they also do not have a mandatory age for retirement. As long as you want to work and are able to work, you can still find employment. I have noticed that in the Philippines job ads usually have age limits for applicants. Work experience is not an advantage here. Some employers even prefer to hire those who have just graduated from college. Call centers seem to be the only employment option for those who are over 40. Age is often the factor that will qualify or disqualify you for employment in the Philippines. Isn't this practice discriminatory?
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@busky5 (3166)
• Thailand
16 Jul 09
Almost companies in my country have 60 years for retirement, it means for ceo,chief,university graduated.Some people are like me, want to retire bofore the rule.Some companies may lay off when crisis recession.I think,it is not sure for every employees.
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@agv0419 (3029)
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
I agree that here in the Philippines there is age employment in jobs. I observed that they usually employed the good looking individuals and young. Working experiences is also important but not the required if graduated in the famous or reputable schools. Even if you have potential but you are over age they not going to hire. The situation in US and in other countries they still employed old people as long as they can do the job it is fine with them. They are looking for experiences and the skills of the individual rather than the looks. Only call centers want to employed the 40 yrs. and above individuals. That's why it is hard to find jobs and opportunities here. There are still discrimination in age and health status of the individual.
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• Philippines
20 Jul 09
Hi busky5. It is almost the same here in our country. The mandatory age for retirement is around 60 or 65 years. It is all right if people like you would like to stop working even before they are 60. But some people still prefer to work even if they are already over 60. They could hardly find employment here in the Philippines because of this law.
• Philippines
20 Jul 09
hi agv0419. My aunt used to work in the US. She was still able to work till she was about 70 years old. Another friend told me that in the US, they are not forced to quit their jobs when they turn 65. I wish the same is true in the Philippines.
@clorissa123 (4930)
• United States
20 Jul 09
I will be a discriminatory case in the United States here, but not on the Eastern countries. I had noticed that retirement age is going further and further down the road here in the states. In the future, the retirement age for people will be gone up to 70 or more. Since the society security couldn't keep up the retirement fund for everyone here in the near future.
• Philippines
20 Jul 09
Oh yes, it was in the news that there is a funding challenge currently faced by the US social security program. They say that in 2016, expenses will begin to exceed revenues. Let us hope that the US government will be able to find a solution to this challenge soon.
• Philippines
17 Jul 09
some countries really don't look at age with regards to employment.they prefer someone with working experience.they also require the right working attitude.personally I prefer this rather than sit and wait around for pension money.some require younger ones because they are the front liners.they are particular,especially if they are in the customer service business.if the positin is not really for front liners, there should be no need for age.working experience should be the basis.
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• Philippines
20 Jul 09
Hi coco! Oh yes, I would also like to see a smiling, fresh and young face serve me in banks or customer service counters. But if this young workers don't have the right attitude, then I'd rather have a smiling older person.
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
It is actually discriminatory punishable by our law. Unfortunately, that law is just in the paper. But there are some reasons why companies want the young ones. First, they always assume that you can't teach an old dog a new trick. They don't want to be teaching how to use computers and other new gadgets when they can hire people who already know how to use such things. Also, it is hard for the older ones to unlearn things and get used to new, innovative means. The younger generations don't know much so they are more pliable and more open in using unconventional means. Beside, there is the mandatory retirement the companies have to deal about. If they hire someone who is 55 years old, they are obliged to pay the retirement benefits the person is entitled to receive after 5 years. Whereas, when they have younger people, there's a chance that they will just be paying separation pays rather than the costlier retirement benefits.
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@bluishrose (2291)
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
I find this unfair for those people of old age who still wants to work or decides to work again. My mother in law who's 80 is still working in switzerland. Most countries like to employ those who has extensive experience unlike in the philippines. Maybe its about time the country adapt this practice.
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• United States
16 Jul 09
i think that it is...but only to a curtain extent...obviously there should be some bounderies but i think they should hire based on expierence...one thing i knoticed is that no matter what you really gotta be able to prove your expoierence because jus having a degree isnt gonna do it....but yeah its shouldnt be based on age but expierence and abilty...
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
I am hoping to see the day when Philippine employers will start putting more weight on experience and stop disqualifying the more mature job applicants.
@cncity (46)
• China
16 Jul 09
Indeed,In some westen countries such as US and Cannada,you may see that many people who is over sixty years old still are at work,moreover can attain the high wage. I think that this is a quite good social phenomenon.after all,compared with the work experience,the age is not the first essential factor to be competent the job. I live in China now,and see this kind of phenomenon is very rarely,the most people when their age is over 60 have tired,even if they want to looke for a job,it is quite difficult. perhaps it is because of the heavy chinese population and few jobs. but the situation is changing for the better gradually! That my opnion,Have a nice day!
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
I agree with your thoughts regarding job competence. It does not necessarily follow that a younger candidate will prove to be more competent on the job than an older and more experienced counterpart. Thanks for responding. Good day!
@yugasini (12839)
• Anantapur, India
16 Jul 09
hi blungel, in my age is not criteria for employment,we have find that the old people could done the things perfectly and wisely..... good day
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
Nice words yugasini but old people are not always perfect and wise. Good day!
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
it still depends on the country's economy. in the philippines, there's not enough job for everybody. so, definitely, companies would choose the best candidate for the available position. in the US, it's different. you would see old people working in malls, in hospitals. there's probably too much available positions for everyone who would still want to earn. old people are still given a chance.
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• Philippines
16 Jul 09
Hi. Are you saying that the younger candidate is always the "best candidate"?
@rsa101 (15467)
• Quezon City, Philippines
16 Jul 09
Well I also feel that as some kind of discriminatory in nature, but, if you are in the situation of the employer, I would also think otherwise. Here in the Philippines, there are many fresh new grads who are as much as qualified and young potential candidates that you could easily hire cheaper than those that are of experience but in their mature ages already. Also, since our country's unemployment rate is on the high there are indeed lots that employer can really choose on and of course they would hire those that are cheaper and can work longer in their own businesses. That is why age is so much being looked upon by employers here in the Philippines.
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• Philippines
16 Jul 09
This is a sad reality in our country. We are losing our better trained and experienced workers to oversees employers. Even the younger ones are only here for the experience that they will need to get hired abroad and then sooner or later they too will leave for better paying jobs abroad.
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
15 Jul 09
Hi blungel, I live in Canada and the government here in not supposed to discriminate because of age and even with private employers experience is often considered very important. Blessings.
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• Philippines
16 Jul 09
It is good that your government does not discriminate because of age and that experienced job applicants have an advantage over younger, inexperienced ones. How I wish it is the same here in our country. Thanks for posting. Have a good day!
• India
15 Jul 09
Generally in many countries and many jobs,experience is mandatory.A job which requires experience is understood to be effectively done,or done at all,only by those candidates who have prior experience in that department.Its practically a valid requirement because any work can only be as good as you. Sometimes in some cases,companies specifically ask for young and dynamic persons.Those are the type of jobs which demand higher motivation and heavier work.Naturally,the employers search for energetic people. A job which demands experience wants those people.Otherwise,a fresher can be fit in to do the job.
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• Philippines
16 Jul 09
Of course, jobs that require strength and youth, will go to the energetic youth. But the situation here is that older candidates are disqualified from jobs because of age even if the jobs do not really require strength to get the job done. Thanks for responding. Good day!
@rainmark (4306)
15 Jul 09
Here, in Uk you can see lot's or older people working until on thier 60's as long as they are able to work. I am looking for a job currently and all they needed here is work experiences, they don't care if you are young or old, the important is you have qualifications and experiences. I think Philippines always wanted a young, fresh, sexy and good looking employee. Happy posting.
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• Philippines
16 Jul 09
Hi rainmark! In most banks here in the Philippines, yes, I guess they prefer to employ "young, fresh, sexy and good looking" in entry level positions as frontliners (tellers and new accounts clerks). Some banks even prefer ladies over men as their frontliners.