Do u think only people with high eduation lever are qulified for a great job?
By hiddenwing
@hiddenwing (3719)
China
July 18, 2009 7:36pm CST
To begin with, someones says that if you wanna become a great person you should either be smart or be pleasant. Since years ago, I have been smart, because I recongized pleaseant. haha
In my hometown, a degree is more important and experience is secondary. First the person needs to have proper qualifications (i.e. degree) and then experience comes as a seondary matter.
Last year, there was a widely read note, "if you wanna get a job in the company (PORK), you should at least had a bachelor's degree", in the pork market. Word on the street says that the job is quite a kick. Workers will really make a fortune of it! Then, lots of university graduate vie with each other for the job. Well, just so you know, everyone can sell meat! I think the boss is really funny! For that matter, most parents in town were forced to send their kids to the colleges though some children are actually so inappropriate to go there!
Another gossipy news was that Jay chou, a pop singer in China, was empolyed as a guest professor in Fudan University. Seeing that he had never gone to a college, some people critically disagree! I really think these obstinate guys are irriating. haha. Jay is so popular and gifted! Why people bother worrying about his degree, a paper.
What do you think?
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28 responses
@JamieRose (168)
• Philippines
19 Jul 09
Hi hiddenwing! I guess its reality that in most companies, they are impressed when someone, or an applicant, has a degree. Of course, this means that the person is educated well in school, or has gained the basic skills needed in working. But I also think that having a degree is not everything. It shouldn't only be the basis if companies who are hiring people. I believe that in whatever you do, you have to start from the bottom and work your way up, even if you are a degree holder or a high school graduate. Working one's way up will teach a person the necessary skills, and most importantly, values one needs in life. :)
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
20 Jul 09
Yeah, also, the compay is always very complcated. People are not that innocent! They should take care of it!
@punkincat (214)
• United States
19 Jul 09
What is a great job ? Each person has a different answer to that. The job will dictate if higher edu. is needed. Experience is great but you don't want to have to reinvent the wheel.
Both are the best but I do agree that company take advantage on who can have their jobs.
@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
20 Jul 09
Yeah, I don't know what it is a great job! If you asked me, I would say that a job that you could make a great fortune of and it didn't take so much effort.
@trickiwoo (2702)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I definitely think that experience makes more of an impact than a degree. But I can understand why jobs require a degree. It shows that you can commit to something and complete what you set out to do. That is a very important quality to have in an employee! It's not about what you studied in school or what you learned. It's more about the fact that you set out to do something and accomplished it.
@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
19 Jul 09
Oh, lots of companys just pay more attention to it! haha, it happens! I don't know how to persuade them about this . haha
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
19 Jul 09
Since I've never heard or seen your pop star, I really am not qualified to comment on his ability to teach. I do believe, though that part of determining his qualification would hinge on just what he is expected to teach. Is his subject, music theory, music appreciation, or how to be a rock star? Regarding your comment about experience and a degree, there are many variables. For many jobs, experience is more important than that degree, but a degree might be necessary for advancement to management. I agree that many students are just not college material and would be better off in a trade school.
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
19 Jul 09
I agree that many students are just not college material and would be better off in a trade school too! Haha
They suffer a lot in school!
Best wishes
@ucue2008 (924)
• Malaysia
19 Jul 09
In my previous work place, an A level student got a better paying job than those who having a degree, me including because of the level of English proficiency. My proficiency is not good, especially during talking and conversing, so I just land a job non-exec, still, I accept it because I know its not easy to get other job, and my brother who has no degree, earn more than me. You see, there are many other things that qualified a person a job, and now, in my place, they will looking for experiences, because degree only mean you have the brain, but not so much real life experiences, so that's why they prefer person with experiences. Like Jay Chou, I think he is gifted with a great talent and he used it in right way and he earn credit for it. I think it also depend on the places. I've been to so many interviews and they always looking for the same thing experiences, because through it, you already developed and confident person than those who just a paper degree with no back up of real life experiences.
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
19 Jul 09
Oh, I am going out to do something now! It's a pity that I don't have so much time to read mylot discussions!
Take care!
@shia88 (4571)
• Malaysia
19 Jul 09
I don't really believe that only high educators people will be able to get a great job with high pay. Sometimes it is all depend on our lucks too. They are so many successful people out there who have lower education background and they are so successful in their business. Work hard is the main priority to be successful.
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
20 Jul 09
Yeah, I agree with you! I am hungry now! Let me go to eat some delicious food! Have a great day or night!
@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
19 Jul 09
I have found through life a lot of people who have a high education don't seem to have a lot of commonsense, I think the main thing to have for a job is passion for that job, I have a friend who is not what one would call highly educated but he can do anything he puts his mind to, because he has passion in what he does...
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
19 Jul 09
I agree with you! It depends on what a person is not who he or she is! Actually, I gotta do something else pretty soon! Take care.
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
20 Jul 09
Education is important but it is not a sure ticket to sucess. A lot of people who never really finished college are doing quite well. Bill Gates for instance never finished college and he is the richest man in the world. By contrast, there is this fine gentleman in our neighborhood who has two PHDs and he can't even afford to take a vacation, he is saddled up to his eyeballs with debts and his car breaks down in the middle of the street at least once a week. If I were to choose between being Bill Gates who never finished college and being a professor with multiple PHDs, I will definitely want to be Bill Gates!
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I do think that a higher education does help but if you are determined enough and have some good skills then it is possible to make it. I have a friend that didn't graduate highschool. she was very smart and she has been successful. She worked her tail off to get there but she now owns her own brewery/restraunt. It is beautiful and very successful. I only had a high school education and went on to work in an insurance company where I moved my way up over time to become a small claims adjuster. I could have gone further but circumstances changed things. The company was paying for me to take classes to move up. Personality does also play a big role in how successful you are.
@abenitez (501)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I think that a college education has a big impact on whether a person is qualified for a job or not. Especially with the economy being the way it is now many companies can be very selective about who they hire. I dint think that experience is as relevant as it used to be. Especially today when you can hire a college graduate with an education and limited experience and train them the way your company wants the job done. Instead of hiring someone with plenty of experience but that person mught have learned how to do the job following different standards than the ones your company follows.
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
19 Jul 09
The more knowledge a person has; the more qualified they are to do anything. There are other factors as well. There are people skills. You can be the smartest person in the world but if no one wants to be around you, kind of hard to get that job. There is also WILL!! Sometimes the go-getter with his drive and determination will beat everyone out. It's kind of a packaged deal here. If you were the boss, who would you hire?? The one who will make you the most money!!
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@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
20 Jul 09
same thing is happening here. most companies want someone who is graduate than someone who has a very good experience for the job but is not a graduate. and even age is a matter too.
i find this really 
. if i have a company of my own i would definitely hire someone who is very well experienced with the job even if he or she is just a high school graduate.
i understand that it is really hard to study and graduate, and companies choose them because of the diploma maybe thinking that these graduates know more about the job. but there are graduates out there who's work are less satisfactory than those who have not graduated and have good experience on the job.
but there are also those who have a higher education that do their job very well even if they are not yet experienced on it, common sense i think.
. if i have a company of my own i would definitely hire someone who is very well experienced with the job even if he or she is just a high school graduate.
i understand that it is really hard to study and graduate, and companies choose them because of the diploma maybe thinking that these graduates know more about the job. but there are graduates out there who's work are less satisfactory than those who have not graduated and have good experience on the job.
but there are also those who have a higher education that do their job very well even if they are not yet experienced on it, common sense i think. @gerbera50 (9)
• Philippines
20 Jul 09
Hi, maybe it depends on what kind of job you want.I know a lot of people who are very successful in their chosen fields without a degree tucked under their belt. But, of course, I encouraged all my kids to finished their studies and get their diplomas.(which they did)But all along, they knew that whats important to be successful isn't just that piece of paper but the passion and determination in everything we do.And a lot of common sense, too.
@doinkyroinky (162)
• Philippines
24 Jul 09
Hi mudra, I really can relate to that, we did have all our diplomas and it helped me land a job where I can truly earn a living. But most businessman really are jsut street smart with no degree to their name and yet end up being richer than their peers. Best example i think would be Bill Gates who is a drop out.
@gerbera50 (9)
• Philippines
20 Jul 09
Hi, maybe it depends on what kind of job you want.I know a lot of people who are very successful in their chosen fields without a degree tucked under their belt. But, of course, I encouraged all my kids to finished their studies and get their diplomas.(which they did)But all along, they knew that whats important to be successful isn't just that piece of paper but the passion and determination in everything we do.And a lot of common sense, too. :)
@NotaBene (111)
•
19 Jul 09
Some jobs require specific degrees, and there is no getting around that. However, I think that experience is often more valued than educational levels.
It seems like more and more jobs are demanding graduates these days, and it is often quite silly in my opinion; particularly in the examples you gave about selling meat.
However, I don't agree with people being granted 'honorary' degrees. I think that anyone with a degree should at least be deserving of it and have done the work involved in achieving it just like everybody else.
I have just completed a bachelor's degree in Law myself.
@easyflow90 (147)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I dont think education is everything. One thing is they need to have common sense. Then they need to be able to apply what they learned to something and most people dont seem to be able to do this. Just because someone was educated at a school about something doesnt mean someone who wasnt cant learn by themselves by trial and error. For example Ive learned a lot about cars and Ive never taken a class that taught me this. I know more about them than people that take classes for them do. Also computer programming. Im an off and on programmer and i taught myself in about 3 weeks. I learned the basics and now I am applying those basics and taking it a step further and I know from past experiences that I am further than people who take classes to learn about this stuff. Now job wise if you wanted to apply something you already know you need to have proof from a credible source that you are capable of doing what you say you can.
@yogambal_64 (1014)
• India
19 Jul 09
According to me it is more important to have a good experience and working knowledge to be qualified for a great job. Of course high education is an added feather for a good job but practical knowledge is given more importance than just a mere qualification.
@rlaknar (616)
• India
19 Jul 09
We can see a lot of people without proper education.Most of the successful storied people will be a quitter of school,college and their education. They understood their talent and improved it.They knew how to express it and innovate it.For them their talent is the investment.Education is only to get the basic knowledge. Education tells ho to do it.But real knowledge not only reading and scoring marks in the subjects but understanding and applying in real world.That is the secret of success.
Good Luck!!!
@dreamangel01 (187)
• United States
19 Jul 09
No not necesarily, there are a lot of people that partied thier way through college but sometimes the only way to get your foot in the door is having that degree tagged behind your name. I guess the status quo means everything to Americans.
@moyeun (23)
• China
19 Jul 09
I don't think high education lever is the most important precondition for a good job. Ability is the thing we should pay more attention to. And education doesn't equal with ability, I suppose many people agree to my opinion, don't they? But the truth doesn't match what we think should be. Many job seekers who are experienced in some fields often defeated by graduates of colleges or universities. I think something like "face" or "vanity" promoted such kind of strange phenomenon. And unfair social rules decides this result. However, I think education is very important for humanity otherwise we will degenerate and fall into disuse in the end. So, though I don't support those viewpoints of "only high education lever people qualified for a good job", I suggest young people pay more time and energy on their studies or at least learn as much as possible in their life.
