conspiracy theories

@jb78000 (15173)
July 26, 2009 2:06pm CST
having read a bit about some of the theories coming out here i have to agree that several of them look suspiciously similar to conspiracy theories. (i read up in newspapers that are so conservative that i normally wouldn't read them so i wasn't getting a liberal bias, and sensible ones, not tabloids). any ideas - and are there any conservatives on mylot that don't agree with all of this?
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@N4life (851)
• United States
26 Jul 09
I just find it funny that it was always "left wing conspiracy nuts" when there was a Republican President. Right wing conspiracies are making the left look tame for sure.
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@jb78000 (15173)
26 Jul 09
they don't do anything by half. in fact i'm surprised evil aliens, the devil and random monsters haven't made an appearance yet
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• Belgium
26 Jul 09
They're almost there - need I mention the "Obama = anti-Christ" nonsense?
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@jb78000 (15173)
26 Jul 09
the absolutely ridiculous is seriously underrated.
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• United States
26 Jul 09
The "conspiracy theory" is in the eye of the beholder. If you hate Obama, and are upset that your party was destroyed in the last election then these are not "theories", they are cold hard facts. There is a thin line between a conspiracy theorist, and someone who is delusional. Now, some on here are both, and since the election, it has been more difficult to tell the difference.
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@jb78000 (15173)
26 Jul 09
just finshed responding to materfish there. yes, those who hold conspiracy theories don't think that's what they are, unless they take them with a pinch of salt but that requires some objectivity and those clearly furious don't usually have that.
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• United States
26 Jul 09
Often times these conspiracies are filled with information that people consider to be facts, which clouds their judgement. I am surprised by the number of people that believe that Obama isn't a US citizen, but this is how politics works today. It is sad, but what can we do about it?
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@matersfish (6311)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Oh, please! lmao Hey, JB, I'm not sure how long you've followed politics, or events in general, either here in America or in the UK, but you make it sound as if you're just now privy to this. No matter who's in office or who's in power, those in opposition are always going to create conspiracy theories. It doesn't matter. I know a lot of people are absolutely ripping the right-wing fringe to pieces about Obama birth certificate issues, but that's an extremely minor theory floating around. In other words: You ain't seen nothing yet! We're only six months in. There will be PLENTY more conspiracies to surface. Let us not forget some of the conspiracy theories Bush had to put up with. At least, to date, President Obama hasn't been accused of creating a master plot to kill nearly 3,000 Americans as a sick hoax to go steal oil that he never stole. Yes, people love running wild with theories. It's what people do. Did you know that aliens crashed here in America and that's where we got our technology? How about Kennedy's assassination -- it took 2 or more shooters. And the list goes on. Supporters will counter non-supporters' theories by stating everyone disagreeing with Obama does so because he's "black." So there are always theories to fight the theories. There's never been an uneven mix out there. Theories are not a partisan issue, per se.
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@jb78000 (15173)
26 Jul 09
these particular ones i've only encountered in such force on mylot, so yes i am pretty new to them. and i am well aware how many conspiracy theories exist and what causes them. the reason, if you haven't been paying much attention, for this discussion is that the politics section in mylot is dominated by obama stuff. there's hasn't been any others. and who exactly has responded to discussions here by saying 'oh you just dislike obama because he's black'? so yes, currently it is a partisan issue. and by the way don't try to be patronising - i don't respond to people i disagree with by suggesting they really don't know what they're talking about, but maybe that's a partisan thing too?
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• United States
26 Jul 09
I don't quite understand how I'm being patronizing, for starters. And secondly, I'm speaking of conspiracy theories in general, not just what kennyrose and a few others post here constantly. And my point about conspiracy theories not necessarily being partisan issues is correct. You don't have to be against Obama to run wild with a theory that he isn't a legal citizen. Conspiracy theories are something that everyone can latch on to. I'm sure even some Obama supporters (not the diehard liberals, mind you) have questioned a thing or few about the man. And I'm sure, even here on myLot, that not everyone who's chimed in with an opinion about the current birth certificate mumbo jumbo would consider themselves either right or left wing. Apolitical people hear it and choose whether or not they believe it. They're entitled to an opinion too. If they do happen to believe the Obama theory, that doesn't make them right-wing -- that doesn't make them anti-Obama. Are you suggesting that only an anti-Obama person would come to the conclusion that there could be something to the birth certificate theory? And if so, what does that say about pro-Obama people? Does that say that they're disregarding everything they hear just because they like the man? You don't have to be political to choose a side in this quasi-battle, because, at this point, it's only an intriguing theory to some discovering the details. I'm sure pro-Obama folks are more likely to say it's garbage, and anti-Obama folks are more willing to say it could be true, but the for-or-against crowd isn't everyone.
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@jb78000 (15173)
26 Jul 09
ok, was about to go but lets go through it: asking how long i'd be following politics and the rest of it was fairly patronising - but ok, i've seen much worse so we'll leave that one. this discussion was not about conspiracies in general. and finally, maybe there are a few non-anti-obama people who believe the birth certificate stuff, but that'll be very few, and i certainly haven't seen any here.
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@anniepa (27236)
• United States
27 Jul 09
Response #6 says it all, jb. there are some people who will believe anything against someone they hate no matter where they hear or read it and then they spread it around as if it's gospel. Rose quotes stories from the Enquirer and the Globe as if they're reputable news sources when they print something bad about Democrats, no matter how outrageous or preposterous but if you tell her the same papers ran stories about her idol Princess Sarah having had an affair you'll get no comment or you'll be accused of attacking her. Annie
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@jb78000 (15173)
27 Jul 09
i've heard the enquirer actually invents stuff, is that true? our tabloids are equally unreliable and get round the law (you can't publish utter fiction) by thoroughly twisting stories or only printing a few bits that tell a completely different story out of context or adding their own ridiculous interpretations. of course sometimes they do make things up and apparently assume that the extra sales will make up for whatever fines they have to pay...
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10424)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Hi JB...I think there is a conspiracy to begin spreading conspiracy theories somewhere lol. They do seem to abound, yes? Some I suspect do have a grain or more of truth to them : ) Karen
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@jb78000 (15173)
26 Jul 09
well not all conspiracy theories are completely wrong - it's like that cliche, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. most are nonsense though. anyway as i said to james above there i'm working on a few of my own as a new hobby. i'm sure i can get lots of internet users to believe them...
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