Do you remember tables?

@mimpi1911 (25464)
India
July 27, 2009 2:02am CST
I stumbled on 18x7, had to multiply manually and I couldn't dodge my 12 year old niece's staring eyes! I was moderately good in Maths but yesterday I found myself a fool who knows no tables. And guess what I had no idea that I forgot it all! What about you guys? 18x7 = 16x8 = 19x7 = 14x12 = ?????? You are caught!!??
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
27 Jul 09
Hi Mimpi! Ha! ha! ha! ha! How come you mention about 'not remembeing tables'? You caught me and to be honest though I was good at maths, however, if you ask me like this, I won't be able to quickly tell what 18x7= or 16x8=. I know that one should learn tables for quick calculations till 1-20 for succeeding, however, I could not learn. I remember the tables till 15 and thereafter I need to calculate it manually. Now a days calculators and mobiles are available, therefore necessity of doing calculations manually has reduced to a considerable extent. have a great day!
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
I agree Deepak. It's important that we remember tables till 20. But with so many conveniences handy, we tend to rely on computers and mobiles. I think, I need to start learning it again with the kids.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
27 Jul 09
Hi Mimpi! It is all the more good if one knows the tables till 20, I once met one of my colleagues, who was topper in my batch, he told me that he could not only recall tables till 30, but he could also recall rational number tables like 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 and since he knew complex tables also, he topped in the exam. I was astonished to hear about his memory. There is no harm, if you can re-start to learn tables again, if you 'master' it, kids will be impressed with your memory and learning ability. dpk How are you doing?
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
That's great to hear deepak. I think, it's not only just memory, there is a categorical method in it. The sharp witted people are fast at calculating it and thus they are genius.
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
27 Jul 09
126 128 133 168 There you go. Luckily i was good at Maths all the time. I keep getting probed by nephew all the while. Another reason i find myself at ease with this would be because of few years that i had to teach small children. Could not get myself scrathing my head then now could I? Need some help ?
@alokn99 (5717)
• India
27 Jul 09
The tables are just a start Mimpi, soon it's algebra, Venn diagrams statistics and more. Geography, physics, chemistry and even the 2nd and 3rd language. A lot to brush up ?
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
Lovely! I wish you luck on your new sessions of tortures and if you an eager learner good luck!
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
I believe you. I think, the kids around help us remember many things that we might otherwise forget. thanks to your nephew! I better start to learn it again instead of scratching my head in front of the kids.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
27 Jul 09
I sure do! And I've even owned a few as well. As a matter of fact, I had coffee off of one just this very morning! Oh, hang on...... THOSE types of tables..... Times tables! Why the heck didn't you say so then mimpi? Oh, you did! OK, now to the actual real topic then..... Yep, I'm pretty good at these and always was thank goodness! My favourite during my primary school years was "12 X 12 = 144"! Maybe it was because it signified the end of the tables at the time because we only went up to 12's in Primary school. Personally I would've liked to have gone all the way up to 27, but it was what it was.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
Fine! But why do you have to learn? 27 x 1 = 27 27 x 2 = 54 27 x 3 = 79 27 x 4 = 103...fill in whatever comes to your mind!! What the heck!
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
I wanted to confuse you for a sec! I know you just had coffee on a table and you were admiring it till you dug on this discussion! 12x12=144 - that was easiest to remember for some reason or may be 12 was the last of it in our primary schools as well! BTW, what's stopping your from leaning till 27?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
27 Jul 09
What's stopping me from learning up to 27? MY desire to preserve the last remaining shred of my sanity for one!
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
27 Jul 09
Hi Mimpi, I well remembered tables upto 12. I think that was enough when I studied in school. I don’t think my basic mathematics is bad. I am good in mental maths and if you ask 18x7, actually I don’t know the table of 18 and I can remember upto 7x12 (in case of 7) ok but I will multiply the same easily in mind. Just multiply the 7x8 you will get 56 and place the six in mind then add the (1x7=7) 7 with 5 you will get the answer. The same way I will find all the answers and won’t fail in front of them (lol).
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Jul 09
Thanks Sreekala. That's the way I do it as well. But I was supposed to memorise those for the kid's sake, ain't I?
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
BTW. how was your vacation Hope your parents are fine.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
28 Jul 09
It was fine dear and already passed one month now. I am tryiing to get in mylot as more active. Thanks dear, have a great day.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
27 Jul 09
Yesss, thank God, and I'm so glad of it! My grandkids have trouble, though, without a calculator. Same thing with clocks that are not digital lol. Hugs, Karen
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
Exactly Karen! even grown up kids have problem without digital clock!
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
Yes Karen. Only a few days ago my niece fidgeted to get the time right from the wall clock!
• United States
18 Aug 09
I have noticed this same thing LOL.
@gcorp09 (940)
• Singapore
28 Jul 09
Well, I do still remember the timetables. But, I remember at my time, my primary school teacher only do ask us to memorize up to 12s. (12 x 12 = 144) I will have to manually do the multiplication in my head for the questions you asked: 126 128 133 168 I do think my Maths was quite good too, but I do admit that with the ease of use of calculators, it do take me a bit of time to do the mental calculations of the above 4 questions... Guess that it's time for me to practice my Mathematics again before my kids start hounding me on Mathematics sums to solve in a few years time...
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
Hey you are still so good! I am fluent till 12 but after that I start to fumble.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Sep 09
Sorry for the delay. Our academic year hasbeen changed. It starts off around March. But, I think it was cool to get holidays during winter asweused to have as achikldwith your kinda academic session. And the school syllabi these days really are so ahead!
@gcorp09 (940)
• Singapore
19 Aug 09
Thanks for your comments. I do need to "brush up" on my Mathematics as the Mathematics are getting more and more difficult for the kids. I was looking at my son's student handbook today, when I saw something which I thought was quite shocking. My son's in Primary 1, and he needs to learn the timetables for 1 - 5! I was like when I saw that was written on his handbook today. I did remember I only started learning the timetables only around Primary 3, and they are starting in Primary 1. (For your information, our school year for Primary school starts in January of a new year, and ends in around November of the same year.) I'm wondering what they will learn in the upper Primary (i.e. Primary 4 - 6) in a few years time. Will it be something I learn in Secondary School at my time...
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
27 Jul 09
Where and when I grew up we were never required to memorize the double digit tables, only to be able to compute them rapidly, as calculators had not yet been invented. I don't know why, but I always had the darnedest time remembering 7 x 8. Then all of a sudden one day it dawned on me that 56 was in sequence with 78, so I just think 5678 and remembered that the answer was 56. Then I wondered "Why doesn't the teacher tell us tricks like this?" So I asked her that, and she was NOT amused.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
That's amusing and I just told my niece this and she is thrilled. these kind of tricks indeed helps.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
27 Jul 09
I was once real good in math as well. Over the years I find that my math skills have weakened so much. I think it is because I work on a cash register that does all the math for me and I use a calculator to do my paperwork at night. I really can't do math well in my head at all anymore.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
Hi Sid! That's so true! Practise makes a man perfect and we hardly do that.
• Australia
31 Jul 09
Maths was not my strongest subject, though I did enjoy it. these days, I struggle to do any equation mentally, but am a breeze with pen and paper (which is never far from my hand) and apparently that counts at 'being good with numbers'. The reason being, it is the rules etc you have to remember, not the answer.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
So right! I am good when with a pen and paper than mentally and pretty fast too!
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@mayka123 (16584)
• India
27 Jul 09
I dont think I would be able to go beyond 13......and especially now when I have nothing to do with numbers!!!!!!!!!! Neither at home because nobody is studying and my work only requires me to remember telephone numbers!!!!!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
Same here Mayka. If I need to calculate the bills or anything I use calculators. Hope you are good.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
29 Jul 09
@mayka123 (16584)
• India
29 Jul 09
I am fine dear.
@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
Waah?? You were required to memorize multiplication tables of variable more than 10? I never did learn how to memorize the multiplication table. Admitting that even up to this day I do not memorize the 10x10 tables. The columns for 1-5 I can manage without a hitch but 6 and above..? I only know bits and pieces. That was one of my Mom's frustrations when I was learning the table.LOL I did have a 'cheat' table during that time. Id only look at it when Im already becoming frustrated with myself. So I really didnt learn the whole table. Good thing my Dad taught me a technique with aligning my fingers for multiplying variables of 6-10. What irony.LOL I used that a lot during tests at that time and its not cheating.^_^ Its quite impressive to know that there students who are taught tables beyond the usual teaching methods. Good for you mimpi You might have forgotten at this time but I know you'll be able to remember it all.^_^
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
You too!!! I could do tables till 13 without finger multiplying until my college but after that I think I lost it all. But now, to keep up my image I have to something about it. May be little more tactful while doing mental and finger multiplying. These days kids are darn clever, I tell you!
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@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
29 Jul 09
I couldnt agree more about that. So sometimes -ing is the best way to deal with it.
• Brunei Darussalam
27 Jul 09
I really hate Maths especially Tables. I have to crush my head in memorising the numerical every night. My teacher was known as Lion. She will pinch our nose, bang our finger nail with duster if the question she asked on tables were not answered rightly. I was indeed stressfull everytime she came in to my class for the lesson. And thankfull, it was over 20 years ago experienced which I rather to forget her meant word and act to me.....
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
trust me, that's the case for most of us!
@vingyan06 (2486)
• Malaysia
28 Jul 09
I was good at mathematics. I admit now I am old and my mental is getting slow in term of getting the response and answer for tables. I wonder why? Maybe is just I am now hardly use my brain and depends very much on calculator. But of course for tables below 12, I still can reciting very well.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
Availability of easier options us always a deterrant towards learning. We love shortcuts but then people who will learn will learn anyway.
• United States
27 Jul 09
I know my tables up through like 12, but after that, once you start throwing out numers like 16, 19, 14....i have to pull out the pen and paper. Luckily i don't have to do much math like this at my work, and when i do, well, we have calculators at the desk *lol*
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
lol..
@tutul0045 (2630)
• India
27 Jul 09
Hey, Iam glad to say that iam still good in Maths. Actually it depends a lot in the nature of work you are involved in. As i do a lot of Maths everyday, it comes naturally to me. At times I get only a split of second to answer my customers over phone, so Iam use to do doing maths manually than doing it over calculator. One can also notice that people like carpenters, welders etc can calculate a lot faster and more accurately than a so-called Engineer. Its all becoz they deal with measurements everyday and that too without any gadgets. Cheers, Tutul
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
I agree totally Tutul. You are right, the profession we are into decides the majorly. I have always wondered about the vegetable seller who would do most intricate of calculations without making any mistakes!
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
27 Jul 09
I was so good at my times table. Do they even teach it anymore? I do not use it much so have forgotten a lot but can still multiply in my head, with a little more thinking process.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
I know you can Janet. I was good till 13 but now I grope for the right number!
@iskayz (5420)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
Hi there! I'm not very good at math neither. I hate that subject that's why I didn't took engineering and followed my dad's footsteps. I never remembered those tables except those divisible by 5 hehe. It's much easier to calculate a number x5. But I do know finger math a little especially multiply using my fingers. It's much easier to calculate when being asked unexpectedly. They do not know that I'm counting my fingers cause I'm hiding my hand every time I'm doing it hehe. Ciao!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
You are right!
• India
27 Jul 09
Hi, i don't think tat all the tables are to be remembered. I prefer to remember it till 20 or even till 10. Because once u know one digit multiples, u will be capable to do the remaining;-), what ever the values may be. When u compare a same person's childhood and present stage, he or she may not remember al the table.s but he can solve any sort of multiplication, whereas for a child he can solve the multiplication wat ever he remember's, when a problem given other than which he studied in school, he find's it difficult to do it:-( . As per my knowledge, children study multiplication till 20. When u compare time taken to answer a simple multiplication less than 20 will be less, confident, and accurate for a child than a elder one.. But as the size of multiplication value increase, a child's confident , time taken will increases.. I prefer to go with solving by remembering some of them which are repeatative and more in usage.happy mylot.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
18 Aug 09
that's very well put!
• India
27 Jul 09
i do remember till 10 only . but have to learn because my child is growing
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
Happy memorising!
@divkris (1156)
• India
27 Jul 09
i remember my parents and teachers asking me to memorize till tables of tewelve! So, i know my basic tables but when i saw this discussion i feel i forgot every bit of these tables also- LOL Mathematics has never been my favorites and i don't blame myself for this - it is the genes ;P
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
28 Jul 09
It's in the genes!? Mine lack on interst in Maths in certainly not in the genes. I have been a black sheep.