Anyone else ticked off about the closed door meetings?
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
July 28, 2009 10:37pm CST
Our elected officials in washington are meeting behind closed doors to work out a deal on health care. Well not all of htem. The dems and three republicans. But that is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that is this not open to the public. This bill will effect all of us. Meaning all US citizens. Why are we being left out? Why have it behind closed doors? Shouldn't we have a right to see the process and what is being discussed? Shouldn't we be a part of the process? Should it be discussed in the open so we can see exactly what is being talked about? If it was done on the floor then it would be on CSpan and the news would also be talking about it.
Don't we have a right to know what the plan is BEFORE any voting is done and have time to contact our elected official BEFORE they vote? Shouldn't we have a right to not only know what it is before it is voted on and before it is voted on?
What I see is more back door deals and the most important people being left out of the discussion (the average american citizen).
What do you think? Should this be done behind closed doors or open to the public? How do you feel about this and other "closed door meeting"?
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6 responses
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Jul 09
Please note also that the non-partisan consumer watchdog group asked for visitor logs to the White House, specifically those relating to visits from executives in the health care industry but this transparent administration of hope and change has refused to release them. We don't know what deals are being made with whom and they want to be sure we don't find out. Change? Hope? Where?
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 09
So much for a more "transparent" gov. that we were promised by Obama and Pelosi. They have been doing everything they can to keep us out of the process or know what is going on until after it is voted on and too late.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
29 Jul 09
LIL, where were you when republicans put out a price list to corporation so they could buy a seat at the table to write a new energy policy (that led to the highest energy prices any nation has ever seen, and completely failed to do anything, but make the corporations that wrote the bill record profits)? This case went all the way to the supreme court where D!ck Cheney fought these CLOSE DOOR meets between lobbiest, and corporate CEO's (Great companies like Enron, Weststar, and the big guys like Exxon/Mobil, Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron). So please explain to me why it was fine for Bush and his administration to do this, and the supreme court OKED it. But, when Barack does the same you get all upset (and unlike Cheney's energy bill there is no proof that anyone had to send money to democrates to get a seat at this table).
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
30 Jul 09
I was hollering and screaming then. I feel like I have been screaming for forever now and not getting anywhere. I want both sides to stop the underhanded BS. I am tired of the us vs them that the parties think are their main job discriptions. And I especially hate it when the us vs them become us (members of senate and congress) vs them (the american people). We are not stupid. We can read and understand. We can come to our own informed decisions. We do not need to be dictated to like small children. Which both sides have a bad habit of doing.
Bush ticked me off more than you will ever know. Or rather if you have been one of the people reading my comments on here for the past few years then you do know. I am not a republican. I am not a democrat.Why? Both parties suck. They both are corrupt. Think their main goal is hurting the other party. Both have completely forgotten they are employeed by the american people.
We have a right to know what is going on. We have a right to have the chance to contact our elected officials wether it is to show support or not for all the bills. We have a right to be a part of the process.
I hate lobbyist and special interest groups and feel they should be outlawed. I have been preaching that one for years too.
So don't just assume that just because I speak out against something the current admin does that I am a "republican" and just following the party line. I don't follow any party line. I think for myself. Free thinker.Which both parties hate.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
29 Jul 09
It is similar to signing a bill before we the voters get a chance to view the bill. There is an apparent we know what is best for you attitude coming from Washington D.C. I fell we need to go down there and kick their doors down. We are not talking about a private corporation, who makes deals with other with other private corporation. Nothing done in Washington D.C should be allowed to be private, except for the very national security matters, because everything done effects you, me, and everyone else.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 09
ya I have noticed lately that they are doing everything they can to leave us out of the process. CLosed door meeting, voting before the public or most of htem have had a chance to read the bill. It would seem that the last thing they want is our imput or seem to care on wit waht we want or think.
They need to go. People need to remember this come election time.
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@elmiko (6630)
• United States
29 Jul 09
when theirs so much emotion and tension about stuff like this its best to have a closed door meeting as a clear state of mind free of anger is needed to work out the best possible plan. thats why they have closed door meetings like this so anger and tension want get in the way of the best possible decisions. there would be more irrate people in an open door meeting. thats why a closed door meeting is best or else it would make matters worse. politics shouldn't get in the way of the best possible decisions.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 09
Not in politics. We the tax payers of this country are the boss. We hire them and pay them. So therefore we should be a part of the process on making major decisions.
If they are screaming and acting like two year olds we should know it. That way we know not to re elect that person. Also we should know if any of them are trying to pull shady deals.
I think they way to get to the best possible decision is to involve the public. If they know we are watching they will be on their best behavior.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
29 Jul 09
It makes me wonder what they have to hide, or what they think they have to hide. I don't have a problem with them going behind closed doors to hash out some things and then telling us before they vote, but if we don't get to know what's going on in a reasonable amount of time, before they vote, then I think they should be voted out of office the next time they are up for election. We need to remind our representatives they are working for us.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 09
I agree. We need to vote them all out and start over. This group definately has forgotten who they work for....us the american public. I think these discussions should be completely out in the open. It makes me think they have something to hide too.
