82 cents for 450 words

@Canellita (12058)
United States
August 4, 2009 8:00am CST
Someone posted a comment in a disucssion I responded to about a site that pays American writers 82 cents for an article that is 350 - 450 words in length. Now, I'm sitting her thinking why would I want to do that when I can earn $2.50 for that same article on helium? And, unlike AC, this is a guaranteed $2.50 because I have three writing stars which earns me $1.50 upfront for every article and I submit articles mostly to empty titles which is an additional $1 bonus. I am working my way up to the fourth writing star which would guarantee $2 upfront per article and then there's the performance payments. Also unlike AC, your article is posted immediately. If you want an upfront payment from AC you have to wait a week for them to get back to you with an offer. Granted, if they make you an offer they pay right away so you don't have to wait 30 days so if you have the time to come up with articles based on your own titles and you are prolific even AC is better than a measly 82 cents.
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@Wismay (2038)
• India
4 Aug 09
Hi Canellita! You are right. But you missed a point. Helium, eHow, AC etc pay only to the US, Canada citizens. So writers from other countries won't get a chance to earn like you do for writing articles to those sites. So this site might help a bit to such people. And Bukisa and other sites are there but they need good traffic to the particular article to get paid. So people think, 82 cents for an article of 350 words is ok for the time being. At least better than doing some sign up task which also consumes the same time but pays just 2 or 5 cents. Happy Mylotting!
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4 Aug 09
Helium pays to international members, I am from the UK and know writers from Australia, India and many others that get paid.
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@Wismay (2038)
• India
4 Aug 09
I am from India, and when I tried to join a warning displayed saying, some countries will be considered in the near future. This is not the exact quote but the meaning was same. So I thought, India is not considered for article pay. I will check it to confirm. Thanks for information
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4 Aug 09
Most Indian IPs are blocked so you need to get dispensation but can be done.
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
5 Aug 09
I am with both Helium and AC. Right now I am making a lot more from AC. Helium is so-so, I have only made $0.26 in performance payments. It takes so long to rate I have no idea how you can get 5 rating stars.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
It takes a matter of seconds to rate. You have to establish a criteria. Sometimes you don't even have to read past the first paragraph to see which writer is better at using language. Do this, just set aside some time and rate. Make it a goal to get to the 5 rating stars and once you have them just rate enough to keep them. Use a point system to rate. If an article repeats the title that is -1 point. If there are spelling mistakes in the first paragraph that is -1 point. If there are grammar mistakes, punctuation, etc., take away points. If the article being compared has the same amount of errors then ask yourself which is the least of the two. If both are poor and one has good information vote it slightly more valuable than the other. Other questions to ask when you are rating are how long does it take to find out what the article about? Is the language too casual or too formal? Standard English does not mean writing above the head of your targeted audience. We could go on and on but the best thing would be to do comparisons and have writers comment we could all see if we're on the same page when it comes to quality. If you are a good writer and you have been writing for some time, you know what good writing is when you see it. If you are still growing and developing as a writer you need to read about how to improve your writing through books like Strunk and White's Elements of Style. There's good and there's professional level and if you want to get paid your writing has to be correct as well as good. There are a lot of people who say they can't tell the difference between the quality of one article and another. These people are not good writerss and it may be a tough thing for them to hear. Good writers start out as good readers.
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
5 Aug 09
I really appreciate that info, Canellita I have been reading most of the articles all the way through. I think I will start focusing on the first and last paragraphs. Is there a timer they have to prevent you from rating too fast?
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Nope. Some of the articles are really good and some are really bad. It is harder when two good ones are side by side but when I see some of those awful ones I vote against them immediately. I can't believe how some of them are allowed to be on the site! When I see atrocious spelling and careless mistakes I don't even read the entire thing. You can use the skip also if you can't decide.
@scheng1 (24741)
• Singapore
5 Aug 09
Hi Canellita, that site is the work-online that we discuss the other day. That one is fiction writing using four keywords, such as driving class, for women, driving test, motorcycle. The standard is not as high as writing for AC and Helium, and this is fiction writing, you do not need to be factually correct or cite reference. Just make up a story and that's it. I have two stories rejected. Too bad I did not keep a backup. I could have repost in my blog, since both are written with popular keywords in mind.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
The site where you have the book or the other one?
@scheng1 (24741)
• Singapore
5 Aug 09
Hi Canellita, it's the other one. Mommaj has submitted a story too. It's easier to cook up a fiction than to spend time doing research for an article. The earnings is not good enough, however the referral earnings are not too bad. That's why you see the others starting discussions to get referrals.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Is it the one you sent me the link for when you sent the review stream link?
@mommaj (22894)
• United States
4 Aug 09
HAHAHA. I know exactly what you are talking about! : - ) The article for 82 cents is fictional and it shouldn't take you more than 15 minutes to write. Helium and AC don't pay for fictional writing. Although, after some of the articles I have read, I wonder... LOL.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
Was that the one where you use a template? Someone we know is going to have to stop opening so many tabs at once...
@mommaj (22894)
• United States
5 Aug 09
HAHAHA. The 82 cents is for, I think, a 350 word story that uses keywords. The keywords are a set amount and after you select what words you want to use, be careful because this is UK and the meanings are slightly different, the webpage has a word counter and will also keep track of the keywords you need to add. It's a cool set up. Not sure it is worth the 82 cents. LOL
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
It might be interesting to try since it is fiction. I am curious about the template method if it is the site I am thinking about that she mentioned in her PM recently.
@browneyed (2526)
• United Kingdom
6 Aug 09
Hi Canellita, The site you're referring to is http://www.work-online.org.uk and I've been using it for about a month or so. It's a UK-based site so it's not exclusively for American writers - it's open to anyone with a Paypal account (though UK residents have the added option of receiving the payment by cheque if they want to). Work-Online pays a minimum of £0.50 per story (they're not articles - minimum word requirement is 350 words). For the dollar equivalent, it obviously fluctuates, but at the current exchange rate on xe.com, £0.50 computes to $0.85. When you've written 100 stories, Work-Online increases the rate to £0.75 per story - and after 300 stories, it goes up further to £1 per story. How it works: you're given a set of keywords and told to write whatever you want with the keywords in mind. Your story can be fictional or non-fictional. My personal experience: I agree, the pay's not that great. However, I find the stories SO easy to write. Reminds me of the freewriting exercises I used to do in creative writing workshops. Plus, it doesn't take me that long to write them - about 15-20mins. Plus there's no need for me to do any research. I don't use Work-Online as a major money earner - rather, I use it as a mind-warmer or something to do when my mind needs a breather. I have a private client that pays me $50 per article/blog post - however, Work-Online makes for a nice bit of change. take care...
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Thanks for that bit of info. I teach part time and school is about to start again so I may have to leave this one on the back burner for a while until things level off with lesson planning and so forth.
@browneyed (2526)
• United Kingdom
7 Aug 09
You're welcome. All the best in the new term. I know how mad it can get.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
11 Aug 09
Thanks, and to you too. I just know once it starts I will be counting down the days to the first holiday, LOL!
@iwrite (5041)
• Singapore
4 Aug 09
Hello Canellita, So what is this site you are talking about is it AC or helium. please advice.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
Actually the person did not say the name of the site so I am not sure.
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@iwrite (5041)
• Singapore
5 Aug 09
that being the case Canellita, you might want to get it clear, while 82 cents might be a small amount. However if you have a continuous 82 cents, then your income might just get better. Just a thought.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
Let me be clear, the site is neither helium or AC. It is a site where you can post fiction and since the other two don't pay upfronts for creative writing $0.82 is better than nothing in a sense. Poets have a hard time making money as a profession. Ten poems would be just short of ten dollars in a situation like this, though I have no idea if the site accepts poems. This discussion came about as the result of someone else crossing up their responses. After thinking about the 82 cents I started a new discussion. I think the site does referrals to in fairness to the person who first mentioned it I will have to get the link from them for anyone who is interested.
@mrtimharry (1180)
4 Aug 09
Did wonder about that post, as you are right Helium will pay me a lot more for doing similar numbers of words. Also could get more for rewriting articles of the same length, which is of course a lot easier than writing from scratch.
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@Wismay (2038)
• India
4 Aug 09
Please visit this and tell me what you think, as there are many who are saying helium is a scam! [complaintsboard.com/complaints/heliumcom-c172962.html]
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
Helium has been quite successful for many writers who are members of mylot. There are a number of channel stewards from helium who post in this forum. You should read through some of the discussions about the site.
• Philippines
7 Aug 09
nice. I am writing for AC too and have been quite disappointed with my earnings there since I am not very good at promoting my content. Is helium a much better site? This is also the same reason why I never do any writing tasks on this site, given that there is the possibility of rejection.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
10 Aug 09
Helium is better for me because publication is instant. At AC I always ask for upfront payment and you have to wait for the process. Also at helium my articles are ranked well so my writing score is good whereas at AC it seems it takes longer to build your clout level. I don't spend much time promoting my articles; I just let friends and anyone I know who is interested in reading my stuff know it's there. I guess after I build things up a bit more I will see about promoting.
@Fracker (177)
• Pakistan
6 Aug 09
Sorry for my ignorance, what is helium, & what is AC? It would be good if you explain. I am new into writing so i am not sure what you are talking about.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Both are websites where you can submit your own original content.
@krajibg (11936)
• Guwahati, India
5 Aug 09
Huh, is it a payment for 450 words? I have been writing articles $2 to $3 for 500 words. And I feel even this much is not enough if compared to the difficulty of collecting sufficient data and all. For me I should be paid with a couple of days or better if you pay me soon after I have submitted my work.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
6 Aug 09
It's a payment for fiction. Where do you submit your written articles?
@erikmama (12929)
• United States
5 Aug 09
Tell me more about it...do you get credit for referrals.I would like to join!
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
I will find out. I now realize who first mentioned the site and I will ask her.
@Hatley (164465)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Aug 09
hi canellita that sounds like something I could do. I am a senior citizen who enjoys writing, and would love to get paid for something I like doing anyway. Is helium hard to get into and if you are fairly good in writing would you make a nice amount of money? It sounds good to me and time, oh I have lots of time.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
It is passive money. If you have $1000 in a savings account that earns interest at the end of the year that money is considered passive income. The money at helium adds up quicker than the money in your savings so in that sense it is a nice amount of money you get for basically not doing anything. It is kind of like waiting tables. Your shift pay is like $2.00 an hour but you make up for it in tips. Once you post an article you let it do the work. There are ways to make it pay better such as SEO techniques. However it is still passive and just like your savings what you get out depends on what you put in. Let's say you started out with your $1,000 in your savings in January and it earned 10 cents. The next month you will get 10 cents more plus the interest on the 10 cents you earned in January. Passive income from writing does not require a monetary investment. If you did one 400 word article per week you would gradually accrue a few pennies from each just like your savings. To increase the earning potential you increase the number of articles. It's simple but it's not always easy because you also have to be able to attract readers to your articles to get those pennies and turn them into dollars. If you are already a writer I would say go for it. If you are not I would say think about ir first and understand that there are other things you can do with your time that will earn you more money on the spot that you won't have to wait for. Most passive income sites pay out once per month and then only you have the required minimum balance to cash out.
• Malaysia
4 Aug 09
In my country, $0.82 is more or less the same as what you are receiving after the conversation rate. Personally, I am not going to write 450 words for such amount if it is in my currency. However, I do think that $0.82 is not bad for beginners or simply to accumulate one's online earnings.
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@Canellita (12058)
• United States
5 Aug 09
No, it is not bad for beginners who are learning to write.