Even MORE Big Brotherism coming! (long, but you need this!)

@Maggiepie (7821)
United States
August 6, 2009 6:03pm CST
[b]Yes, on top of all the other unconstitutional things the current administration is trying to do, there's THIS (unashamedly pilfered from WND's website Oh, & all italics / emphases are mine...): ---------------- WND Exclusive LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER Congressman wants government GPS in cars; Proposes mileage-based gas tax that would monitor travels. Posted: August 05, 2k9 By Bob Unruh © 2009 WorldNetDaily Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore, an Oregon congressman, says he wants to test having a government GPS unit in every car so a tax could be imposed on the miles driven. The proposal, H.R. 3311, which calls for a test project costing $150 million-plus, was introduced by Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore. "Oregon has successfully tested a Vehicle Miles Traveled fee, and it is time to expand and test the VMT program across the country," he said in a statement on his website. "A VMT system can better assess fees based on use of our roads and bridges, as well as during times of peak congestion, than a fee based on fuel consumption. "It is time to get creative & find smart ways to rebuild & renew America's deteriorating infrastructure," he said. His plan calls for the Department of the Treasury to study the idea with test GPS-equipped car projects in every state. Blumenauer said the Oregon test "charged drivers for the # of miles they traveled rather the fuel they consumed. The test was convenient for drivers, protected personal privacy, and proved to be easily administrable." In a WND column, however, Henry Lamb raised several concerns unaddressed by the congressman. For example, what other applications would there be for a GPS unit attached to each car in the nation? What about "shutting down the vehicle when its allotted emissions cap had been reached." "Why not?" Lamb wrote, "The current cap-and-trade bill would limit industrial emissions & force each business to pay an extra tax for the privilege of emitting additional carbon dioxide. Why not arbitrarily assign a weekly or monthly cap on auto emissions & shut down the vehicle when that limit is reached? The new Global Positioning Satellite device would have that capability. "Every American ought to be outraged that such a system is even contemplated," he continued. "This system is the tool that makes slaves of every person who depends upon a vehicle. Lamb said shutting down a vehicle would be among the less intrusive possibilities. "The proposed GPS road tax system could easily be programmed to listen to and record conversations inside any vehicle. It could stop a vehicle, lock the occupants inside and notify the 'jack boots' that the occupants were en route to a tea party," Lamb wrote. "We would hope that the federal government would never sink to the level of paranoia that gripped Nazi Germany. But then, we also hoped that the federal government would never sink to the level of labeling legal, peaceful assemblies, such as the recent tea parties, as gatherings of potential terrorists." According to a report at Landlinemag.com, the bill does not call for a removal of the "fuel tax" if a mileage tax is established. "The current system of levying federal taxes on trucks is as discriminatory as it can be to small business, and harmful, but there are lots of unanswered questions with a VMT," Todd Spencer, vice president of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, told the magazine. "And those questions need to be resolved before we start launching down that path," he said. The bill, introduced July 23, has been assigned to the House Subcommittee on Technology and Innovation. It states the subjects that need to be evaluated include "ease of compliance," "public acceptances," & "geographic & income equity." The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported besides Oregon's test project, several other states also have considered checking out the idea. Under the Oregon plan, a dashboard display, a GPS receiver and antenna, mileage counter and a radio were built into several hundred cars. When a driver pulled up to a pump at a specially equipped gas station, a radio sent information about the car's travels to the pump. It was programmed at that point to remove the gas tax & add the mileage tax. On the Cleveland newspaper's forum page, there was alarm over the potential. "Are you people convinced yet that it's time to grab the pitchforks & head for the castle?" wrote a participant. Another expressed frustration. "I purchased a small car last spring because gas prices were on the rise. This small car averages 43 mpg. This saved me a lot of money when gas prices hit $4.00+/gal. The car also has the smallest carbon footprint of any non-hybrid vehicle being produced today. The small carbon footprint helps save the environment. I travel 100+ miles/day. The government encourages us to use less gas to help the country become less dependent on foreign oil. The people are doing what they want by driving less or driving more fuel efficient vehicles. Of course gas tax revenues are going to decrease. And now they are thinking about a mileage tax because people are doing what they want...they can't have it both ways...." [Wanna bet? Mags] Transportation officials in the Obama administration have downplayed the idea for now. ------------ Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?" [/b]
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
7 Aug 09
Certainly puts the cash for clunkers program in perspective doesn't it? Think about it. Most of those older cars being turned in and destroyed are not likely to have on onstar system or other gps fitted system in it. But more to your larger point. Why is this even being considerd? Why would such words even be uttered on our congress by someone? Even if it is a fringe idea and a bill that has no hope or support among the larger more total number in congress, just the VERY IDEA that a person who thinks like this made their way in to our government should be a source of both great shame and horrifying concern. I firmly believe just the existence of such ideology, such chilling and ominous ideology, should be a loud alarm for us. Just the very fact that someone actualy thought of this, should be more than enough to make even the most party loyal voter seriously think in much broader terms in the next election. It should by now be beginning to put a lot of things in perspective. If not, then shame on us all.
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@Rollo1 (16669)
• Boston, Massachusetts
7 Aug 09
A crowbar kept in the front seat should take care of that. I said this would happen long ago when they first started putting GPS in cars and OnStar and stuff like that. Heck, even electric windows are dangerous enough to warrant a crowbar in the front seat in case your car is submerged in water. Time to go to basics. A box on wheels with roll-windows. Or a motorcycle. Try locking someone inside the motorcycle.
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
7 Aug 09
[b]Yeah, a crowbar upside the heads of these idiots would do as well, I think. Okay, I'm kidding. Sorta.... Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@blackbriar (9126)
• United States
7 Aug 09
This is pretty stupid. They need to stop taxing every little thing in this world. If they start taxing milage, then I as well as every other motor route carrier will be forced to quit their jobs being we HAVE to drive over 40 miles a day just for our job let alone personal use. My motor route covers over 60 road miles a day and I have only 3hrs. to deliver over 100 newspapers. No way I can do that by bicycle. MAYBE one of those highway scooters if it can pull a trailer cause that many papers can't fit on a scooter. Other people will be compromised with their jobs as well if they depend on cars/trucks to do them.
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
7 Aug 09
[b]They don't care. That's essentially what you have to keep in mind with this bunch. They want your money & their power. This will give them both. Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
• United States
7 Aug 09
They can just shove it where the sun don't shine, then. I'll just quit and let the state support me then. Seems other people are getting away with this.
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
7 Aug 09
[b]Tempting, I know, believe me. But since I don't see my God in the morning in my bathroom mirror, I can't do that. No, no matter what, we're the "good guys" because we don't do that, no matter how hard things get. Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@jonakyl (493)
• United States
7 Aug 09
How long before they amend this and you receive one tax rate for your mileage and a second slightly higher tax rate for mileage with the AC on, since having your AC on reduces the efficiency of your engine.
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
7 Aug 09
[b] SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never, never EVER horrible-ize when "they" are listening!!!! Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@olydove (1209)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Well yet another reason for me to do what I've been wanting to do for months. I'm going to invest in a bicycle. I can get a bike and a little trailer attachment to put the groceries in, and if my kiddos want to go they can ride their bikes too. Use it for runs to the store which is just a mile down the road, and other close things, and stick to my good old trust 1996 caravan because it has no gps or any of that crud in it. We don't really go much anywhere except family trips to the lake and what not, my husband goes to work but that's usually within a few miles from here and he drives a little old 1993 economical car. The only problem with my bike plan is it's scary because in my area we don't have the bike lanes until you get out to the main road. Even then the way people drive this days the bike lanes aren't all that safe. Maybe they could make separate roads just for those with bikes LOL yeah like that will ever happen! Then again if we all started using bikes they'd just find some stupid way to tax that too but at least they won't be able to lock is in our bikes or shut it off. Maybe we should all pack up and move to some other country where the government isn't so involved. Know any good ones? LOL! How about an undiscovered remote island somewhere?
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@machizmo (279)
• United States
7 Aug 09
As amusing as this seems to be, it shows the lack of common sense and good judgement of some politicians. You could install this in all cars but I can tell you in poor areas of the usa and real rural areas of the usa, there is no guarantee it would work. If they cannot make sure people keep their cars in working order, I do not see the government being able to track everyone with some type of little gizmo. I just find it amusing some politician thinks he will fix problems by tracking peoples driving and taxing them based on how much they drive.
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
7 Aug 09
[b]I think you underestimate (1) the enormous quotient of wildly wacko politicians in D.C. today, & (2) upcoming technology. I can't find these whack jobs "amusing," given their bizarre histories & the fact that they just keep coming, & wear folks down. Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
6 Aug 09
very interesting~ thank you for sharing. It doesn't surprise me one bit that the government now wants the power to listen to our converstions while driving or lock us in the car and disable it remotely. The more power the government gets...the more they want.
@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
6 Aug 09
[b]Yep. Yep yep yep yeppers. Par for the course for the government, true. Better warned than ignorant, I say. I hope others will take heed! Thanks for posting! Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]