level of anger

@jb78000 (15178)
August 6, 2009 6:47pm CST
is this normal in us politics - bear in mind that i've only been to your country twice, and rarely read or watch your media. this is actually a genuine question - where is this coming from and what do you think it will achieve?
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10424)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Hi Jb. There does seem to be a lot of passion, anger, and "mud slinging" involved in US politics. I live here in the US and wonder to which situation you might be referring in particular. The "parites" feud so often over almost everything, and this is fed by the media, a couple of conservative radio talk-show hosts, in particular. Kudos, though, to President Obama for being gracious and cool-headed under pressure! Karen
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Blimey a person with a level head! tdemex
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
karen & td, nothing wrong with having strong opinions but some do seem to be verging on the ridiculous.
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• United States
7 Aug 09
That is putting it politely, Jb lol. And thank you, Td :D
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Well basically after 8 yrs. of a pres. that could do what he wanted, with a congress that could do what they wanted with no threat of a veto, kind of a free for all, the country went to the shambled state it's in now! After a major bale out of their political base, they need to vent! It's kind of like your fotbal! when the other team wins the match and the losers go out and burn cars and other civil unrest. But we have 8 years to get the country back in shape like it was when they took the ball! I remember a balanced budget and a prosperous country, and hell 9 years ago I had health care! Wow! Then may be they will get the ball back again and get the rich, richer, start all over screwing the little guy again and the vicious cycle will start all over again! It won't achieve anything but bring the country down to a lower low than it already is, and then they can blame that on the current team with the ball! You gotta luv it!!!! tdemex
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
i wasn't going to compare it to football but it's the same kind of thinking going on. sorry, 'thinking'.
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@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Your numbers are wrong td. Republicans had congress for about 6 years. During that time there was ALWAYS the threat of a filibuster and the democrats used it often, even to block appellate court nominees just because they didn't like the president. For the last 2 years democrats had the majority and those were the years where our economy tanked. By comparison right now we have one party rule without even the chance of a filibuster from the minority party. Bills have been rammed through over the last 7 months without anyone bothering to read it and not a drop of bipartisanship from the majority party.
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
ok, got it. thanks taskr for unintentionally answering my question. now i guess we'd better get back to name-calling.
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• United States
7 Aug 09
Yep. We are passionate about our politics. But also it is made worse by the economic crisis. People are mad and upset about the state of the country and they have little faith that our elected officials are doing the right thing to fix it. I think the anger will get worse before it gets better.
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
i'm passionate about issues and always have been, and never too pleased at whatever messes the current government has decided to make. however the (sometimes misdirected) fury i've seen here has been an eyeopener.
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Lets see 8yrs to destroy, it's already been 200 days? It's not repaired yet, WTF? Down with the power of change!!! LOL!
• United States
7 Aug 09
our society is all about instant graditifation. I would have more patients if I agreed with the our congress were doing. But I see them making things worse instead of better so that really makes me a lot more fustrated and angry.
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@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Well I get angry when I feel my rights are being taken away or when politicians aren't listening to and don't care about their constituents. This nation was formed by people who believed politicians were servants of their constituents and that it was their duty to represent them appropriately. Now we are seeing such politicians as a dying, and nearly non-existent breed. Politicians and presidents are not our rulers, they are our servants. On forums such as these much of my anger comes from the lies and misinformation being spread as well as the hypocrisy from people who now blindly support the things they so vehemently opposed for the last 8 years based solely on the change of a letter from R to D.
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
taskr, what you can get out of places like mylot is a chance to firstly debate views, and maybe both parties can adjust or maybe not, and secondly to correct misinformation you see, for example by providing reliable sources to back up what you say. the thing is both of these are better done calmly or ar least reasonably. if i see aggression and name-calling here i assume the commenter is not the sharpest tool in the box.
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@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
7 Aug 09
Some people here knowingly tell lies and continue to repeat the lies even after proven false. When such people are intentionally doing so anger is to be expected.
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
in that case report tham and stay out of the discussion. can't say i've seen that myself - every comment i've seen so far has come from someone who believes what they're writing (not trolls, but they get deleted quickly). i have however seen a lot of aggression and since some of it has been directed at me and some friends i know full well it is not always deserving.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
7 Aug 09
It stems from the basic realization that there is so much at stake. These are monumentaly important and nation altering issues. Such issues are always going to stir great passion. We have Bush to thank for igniting the fuse. He was enough to make a lot of people wake up to the genuine direction the country and our government was taking. He alone is responsable for many people "waking" up to the totalitarin ideals taking hold in our system. My frustration and anger stems from that usurping of our founders' creation. It also stems from people not realizing that it didn't end when Bush left office and that people who were so willing, and rightly so, to scream and rage against some very blatent unconstitutional and statist actions and policies, are now quietly complacent about said same actions with this administration and other similar polices and ideologies. It is as if suddenly all unconstitutional action stopped when Bush left office. Come on folks, you can't honestly look in a mirror and say this can you? Or even worse, say that it doesn't matter because there are some things you like with this administration? Does that really excuse the Bush like actions that still go on even as I write this?
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@jb78000 (15178)
7 Aug 09
passion about issues is understandable - in fact not having it shows apathy. i was getting at raging at those who disagree with you rather than those who are implementing whatever you are angry about.