Charitiable Organizations - What do you think...?

@zoey7879 (3104)
United States
August 10, 2009 12:34pm CST
A few days ago, I started a discussion about charitable organizations, private organizations, and churches giving away free school supplies. Today in a local newspaper, there was a nasty letter in the editorial in which the writer was upset that these school supplies were being given away - the writer was outright disgusted; suggestion that these children should get only top notch grades and be thankful for the rest of their lives. I feel that as adults, we have an obligation to help protect and educate ALL children, regardless if they are ours are not. While there are many people who have children and refuse to work or won't accept the work that is available, there are just as many parents who were left single due to abandonment/theft, laid off, unemployed, disabled, and underemployed. Where I live is extremely small, most employers hire 20 or less hours a week and will not hire those who are already employed elsewhere. So my question is, what do you think when organizations do back to school supply give aways, Christmas & food baskets, etc. ? Do you think it's wrong for people to accept these things? Do you believe that there is a difference between the able bodied but unwilling to try types of people than those who are underemployed/unemployed and disabled?
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@vandana7 (66842)
• India
10 Aug 09
Hi Zoey7879, this is something I am not sure many will agree but still I will dare to write. There is a tendency in human beings to be lazy. If we start doing charity without any discrimination, we might end up taxing the hardworking citizen to ensure the survival of lazy and poor people. Does it sound fair? More and more people will prefer to be lazy and unemployed as their necessities are met and they have no cravings for luxuries. Because of this, there should be an eligibility criterion, and time limit for which such eligibility exists. For example all those who suffered losses during Katrina should be eligible for charity for the next 5 or 7 years, and by that time they should learn to stand up on their own and start contributing to the nation's wealth. Such confinement of charity will make people realize that being lazy and dependent on charity is a short term solution and this safety net that is offered should be preserved for rainy day and not used recklessly.
@zoey7879 (3104)
• United States
10 Aug 09
I agree with this somewhat. Many states regulate the time period that welfare recipients can receive food stamps and/or to continue receiving them after a period of time, an adult in the home must be working or receiving some other form of income. To get cash assistance, most states now require that all able bodied adults in the home work a combined/divided total of 40 hours per week at an assigned site to "earn" those funds... often times when you do the math at the level of that states minimum wage, the person is "working for $4-$5/hour". Where I live now, a family of three can live modestly (with or without a motor vehicle) and do alright for themselves with little or no help). However, the town I moved from, $9/hour for a family of three, gets you a shot up spot in the hood ($400-$500 rent with about $400/mo utilities) and you can't get around safely.. at night while depending/waiting on public transportation. It just angers me when those who refuse to help themselves or refuse to try wholeheartedly want and expect everything to be given to them for free.
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@caver1 (1765)
• United States
10 Aug 09
I think the back-to-school giveaway is a good thing. I do not understand why anyone would have a problem with that. I understand that they think the parents should be working and supplying things for their own children. But should the children be punished if the parents don't or can't take responsibility? The children still should have the opportunity to learn and to do that they need school supplies. The fact that those supplies are bring provided by charitalbe organizations shouldn't make anyone upset. The nasty letter writer should be thankful that the items are being donated otherwise the school would have to use our tax dollars to provide supplies for those children.
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@zoey7879 (3104)
• United States
10 Aug 09
Aye, where I live 78% of families with children enrolled in school live below the federal poverty level. It's a town of about 6,200 people. The schools here don't chip in for class room supplies generally speaking - Instead they insist that the parents did it, as well as teaching supplies. This year my daughter's third grade class required from each student(things beyond the norm): 4 Bottles of Elmer's Glue (no glue sticks) 1 pair 8inch scissors (most 8 years can't even maneuver those) 3 pk pencils 3 boxes crayons 1 pk dry erase markers No mechanical pencils, no folders with clips, no binders, no trapper keepers. I purchased many of her school supplies before the school year started and still have items left over from last year. However, I fail to see what students are going to be doing to use 3 boxes of crayons, dry erase markers for boards theyre not allowed to write on, scissors the size that came with my sewing kit, and who cares about the pencils - cheap ones break all the time too (if it's not "testing time"). Since I'm now unemployed and had spent my budget, I ended up standing in this exact line because the teachers don't approve of what kind of pencils and what brand markers and paint I bought her. Ridiculous really, and I am beyond thankful that there were places doing these giveaways. Last year I spent plenty on school supplies and sent my daughter to school with extras for the "entire class" - when the one's my daughter had in her desk broke, she ended up having to ask the teacher for new crayons and pencils and getting marked down when she didnt have any. After sending 4pk pencils and 4pk crayons to school, it's really frustrating and well just wrong that my daughter got her grades marked down when her pencils and crayons were broken and stolen ; when my daughter wasn't allowed to keep any of the spare things that I sent to school with her at the beginning of the year. There was also a three week period when my daughter was absent due to illness, and returned to find that all of her pencils and erasers had been stolen. This year, regardless of the requirements, I'm sending her to school with the minimum, and when she tells me that she needs more I'll send more with her. Yes.. somewhat hypocritical, but I can't afford to supply the entire classroom this year. Catch 22 maybe :/
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@polachicago (19073)
• United States
10 Aug 09
Free is not always good, but with school supply I think we are able to help many kids. They need fresh start, some would not be able to have what they need because of bad economy, parents without jobs or parents without money... I can not agree with term lazy people....many people are in bad shape because of economy.
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10 Aug 09
if someone or company want to help the lessable than thats ok, as long as the staff they employ to hand out these free goods do not abuse their power for their own end.
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@echomonster (2227)
• Greenwood, Mississippi
10 Aug 09
I don't know where that writer was coming from -- what people do with their money is their own business and if people want to voluntarily support school children in need they have every right to do so! I absolutely think it's a good project. Whatever choices these children's parents may have made doesn't reflect on the children. Just because their parents aren't providing for them doesn't mean they shouldn't have school supplies. Of course, I don't think there's anything wrong with accepting the free supplies either. Honestly, even if the supplies go to children who would have obtained them by other means anyway, it's not a bad thing. It's a gesture in support of education and shows these children that other people care. It'll encourage them to be generous when they're older, too. Basically, it's a good thing all around. The only argument against it I can think of is maybe the money could be going elsewhere, if there isn't really a need for these supplies. From what you said, though, it sounds like the need is genuine. Still, there are needs more basic even than education. Personally, I tend to support food banks, free clinics, and Shriners hospitals because I feel those who need food and medical attention are the neediest of the needy. I still think the school supply giveaways are a good thing, though.
@cyrus123 (6383)
• United States
10 Aug 09
I think it's great that organizations do these things. No, I don't think it's wrong for people to accept them at all. Why go through the trouble of getting these things together if nobody is going to accept them? Yes, I think there is a difference between the able bodied but unwilling to try people than those who are underemployed/unemployed and disabled. However, their children can't afford school supplies whichever way it is. I would buy school supplies and donate them to these organizations if I could afford it but I just can't. Also, the women in our church would get together and make fruit baskets for Christmas to give to the sick and shut-ins in the past and I always took part in this. Now, we do it a little bit differently. We all get together after church services one night in December and stuff bags with fruit and gift items. Then, we let those who have been sick or those who live alone pick whichever bag they want. Some people will volunteer to take bags to those who are shut-in. Kathy.
@cyrus123 (6383)
• United States
10 Aug 09
I might have gotten off the subject a little bit when I started talking about the sick and shut-ins. Sorry about that. I know we're mainly talking about people who are able to work and won't or the underemployed/unemployed and disabled. I guess these things just came to mind as I was responding. Kathy.
• Canada
11 Aug 09
I think that it's ok for people to help other people. I also think that those organizations are important for society.
@jaiho2009 (39001)
• Philippines
10 Aug 09
I don't see any wrong with charitable institutions.People who were behind these charities are happy to help the needy.Ok let's face the truth,not only poor people benefited from these charities,even people who can afford to buy their things are also benefited. But the fact behind all these charitable institutions are the people who are willing to help without any condition.They are trying to reach out the poor,they are sharing their blessing and they are happy doing it.We should be grateful that even if the world is facing crisis there are still institution that are giving things and foods for free. If only the rich people will join hand in hand and will share their money and wealth,then,i am sure,it's not only school supplies that will be given free.