Newbies what do you think of the senior members here?

@zandi458 (27952)
Malaysia
August 11, 2009 4:41am CST
I am a bit disturbed when I read a response from a newbie you should just leave those oldies alone and let them disappear and die. that's how it is. This surprises me, a matured and learned person can blurt out such an uncalled remarks which will undoubtedly hurt the seniors. We are here because we like it here and why should this person put a curse word on us. I don't think we veterans have done any harm to the newbies and to the best of my knowledge have always welcome them to join in the fun here. We are no threat to the newbies and some of the seniors have even guide them on their journey here. When the atmosphere is all peaceful and calm, why stir the hornet's nest? I just think that politeness and respect really makes a bit easier for everybody. Responding should take into account the sensitiveness of the words or should be severely restricted so as not to incite hatred. What do you draw out from this response?
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@mysdianait (64059)
• Italy
11 Aug 09
WOW! You read that on here??? I am an oldie now compared to some and I welcome the new users. Many of them are a breath of fresh here and I am happy to help them on there way up the ladder until they find their slot. I am appalled by what you write and I think whoever said it must surely have got out of the bed on the wrong side?
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@mysdianait (64059)
• Italy
11 Aug 09
It seems she has now comtemplated and realised her mistake -and she has also apologised in her discussion That's why I never give up ever Every cloud has a silver lining and something good always comes out of every bad situation so I just persevere. It's rewarding too as so many users are now high flyers here
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@mysdianait (64059)
• Italy
11 Aug 09
The apology discussion was posted after the response... benefit of the doubt?
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@submerryn (1304)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
When I first came into myLot, several 'seniors' guide me through. I was really happy that the myLotters I came to know here are kind and helpful. My impression of this place is that everyone helps each other not only to earn but to enjoy being here. I disagree with the newbies having those kind of attitude. They should explore myLots more before making such statements. They are only ruining their own reputation.. too bad for those ppl..
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@dpk262006 (56104)
• Delhi, India
11 Aug 09
Hi Zandi! The remark mentioned by you is uncalled for and it is in bad taste, irrespective of the person, who posted it. I think one should maintain courtesy and decency, while posting these kind of remarks and factor of 'respect' should not be over-looked either for a older member of a newbie. I think, writing this kind of language is a reflection of his/her personlity.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
After reading from her counter comments, I can roughly guess she is in trouble personally with someone in mylot and she threw her tantrum on the screen for everyone to read. Too bad she is grossly misunderstood. But she is here to explain. I will come to her response in a short while.
@dpk262006 (56104)
• Delhi, India
12 Aug 09
Let her open her heart out, she might have written those comments, due to some provokation. If possible, please send me the link of the discussion please.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Unfortunately the response has already be deleted. You only got to see the discussion of which the link has already been send to you.
@MsTickle (24962)
• Australia
16 Aug 09
LOL...oh Zandi...don't worry so much. This was obviously someone young and intolerant and a bit of a fool. With such an attitude, they will not last long here as it is the long term members some of whom are not very old at all, who set the standards here. It's the folk who are kind, tolerant, helpful, understanding and supportive who go the distance here not those who ridicule and run down. Peace and Light to you friend.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
16 Aug 09
Thanks Ms for the pacifying words. When I first read the response of this young lady I was a bit taken back cos as an old member here I question myself why I should hang on here any longer as I might be viewed as a pest or a menace here and should give way to the newbies to dominate this place and the old should take a break. But again the old who have been here long are the working examples of the newbies to continue the legacy of mylot.
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@MsTickle (24962)
• Australia
16 Aug 09
It's members like you who set such a good example Zandi....re-read the wise words of your discussion. They are the words of a true member of myLot who understands what being a part of myLot entails. Keep up your good work.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
16 Aug 09
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
11 Aug 09
I am a senior here and havent had trouble with the newbies and hope I dont have . Yup we all should get along adn we also agree to disagree on some things thats what discussions are for to broaden out out look of the world!
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
Actually it was not directed to me but was reading through some responses and chance upon her response and reading her response trigger me to say something to correct her wrong perception of all senior members here.
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@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
11 Aug 09
ok I see what ya mean!
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@skye86 (57)
• India
11 Aug 09
I am a newbie myself and have nothing against the veterans. In fact I would love to join in as friend in their network and learn more.
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
Welcome to mylot and hope this post didn't affect you badly.
• Philippines
21 Aug 09
hello there skye86... welcome to mylot community. and i hope you wont get affected by this one. just have fun and enjoy mylotting. its a whole new world. so if you got some questions dont hesitate to ask us through private messaging and we would help you in any way we could... jhelai
@jshekhar (1563)
• India
11 Aug 09
Hello Zandi, I would consider myself in the "newbie" category..or may be an intermediate one. I don't know who was the person who made such remarks but trust me, we do hold the old members here in the highest of regards. They have done so much of sincere posting here to get past 4000 or 5000 posts. If anything, I like you a lot because you've been responding to all the discussions i start.. No one has any right to put a curse on anyone for no reason and I think that newbie might have got jealous of you because of your star ratings and the no. of posts you have contributed. My advice would be to leave them alone and carry on the good work of helping us out.I apologise on his behalf.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
You should be in the senior category as you have good enough figures by the side of your name to warrant you to be called a senior member here. Well, since I don't see you posting often, what ever I can get hold of your discussion I will come to it. Definitely no one is at liberty to downgrade anyone here. We should strive to make this place peaceful and enjoyable so everyone will be happy mylotting and at the same instance foster new friendships.
• Philippines
21 Aug 09
jshekhar hello friend. you are one of the great mylotters though you are like me. just a newbie by heart because we havent been here that long. but with the time, effort and posts we already have i guess we are consider seniors mylotters... but the whatever we are, as long as we mylot with respect to each one of our fellow mylotters. then you are one of the great mylotters of all time. jhelai
• United States
15 Aug 09
I think whoever said that is going to have one tough life ahead of them unless they learn to show some respect SOON. All of us are going to age, and with age comes a different type of challenges. But, each person should be taken as an individual and not be judged based upon age but upon who they are as a person
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
16 Aug 09
This person has created a barrier for progress by uttering such foolish words much to the annoyance of those older and loyal members of mylot.
@ryouga (63)
• United States
12 Aug 09
This has been one of the friendlier forums I've been on, so for someone to say that sort of astounds me. (The only way that it doesn't is that the anonymous nature of the internet makes it easier for people who are prone to acting nasty just that much easier.) I typically find older individuals to be a big help in terms of knowledge and even encouragement. Whether in terms of age or length of time somewhere, they tend to know things.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Welcome to mylot ryouga, it is my greatest hope that you'll enjoy mingling with everyone here, young and old, they are the heartbeat of mylot.
@vkondrad (47)
• United States
12 Aug 09
I think that is just plain dumb. Who cares how long anyone has been on here or not?! I don't care if you have been on mylot for years or a day. I am interested in meeting new people and discussing interesting topics and even a small (very small) amount of money for my contribution. I say if they aren't going to play nice... they need to stay off mylot.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Welcome to mylot vkondrad, it is a pleasure to have you on board. Newbies are the people that keeps this place running and supporting the activities here.
• United States
12 Aug 09
As I would be considered one of the "oldies" I would love to have seen that response so that I could have let that ignoramus know in no uncertain terms exactly what I thought of them!
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Unfortunately the response was deleted before it can be seen by all. Good riddance! It should not have been there in the first place as it only created bad blood between the newbies and oldies. This is so unnecessary in a peace loving community of the old and young here. But this poster was trying to widen the gap between the newbies and the veterans.
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
12 Aug 09
I don't know if I am still a newbie or not. I do sometimes wonder how some have made over 10,000 posts...
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
You are no longer a newbie and am sure you will one day reach that figure. It is not impossible. Others have done, why can't you?
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@K46620 (1996)
• United States
13 Aug 09
I might Right now my goal is to reach 500 posts
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
14 Aug 09
It is not too far away from now. It will take you a few more responses to get there.
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@akuler (3539)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
Hi zandi, I don't know if I am still newbies here because we don't know how long we should be here before we leave a newbies tag. But since I have been here I didn't see any reason to call the seniors here that way. Just like you said, I received some help from a few seniors here. I can name a few here but it would against the guidelines. I think that response come from a creature named troll. They always try to make something out of nothing. Just for get about it since there are a lot more newbies here needed a helping hands. 1 person didn't represent the whole newbies here. It is an isolated case. Special case with a special creature. Happy mylotting and have a nice evening. Siapa bah yg palui banar tu
@mysdianait (64059)
• Italy
11 Aug 09
I'm sure too that it is an an isolated cae Akuler. Someone just had a bad day - I hope
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@akuler (3539)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
I love the Bad Day song sing by Daniel Powter. But that one last with happy ending. This one, I don't know. Hope it would reach the same fate.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
I think once you get a star rating you are no longer called a newbie. You have passed your probation and should be able to enjoy many facilities accorded to senior members here. No I am very sure she is not a troll but a confused person likely having bad moment. But I hope she get to understand better the real people here so she can feel the real fun of being here as what everyone of us is experiencing now. Aren't you not? Yang di atas kau ni kurang siuman?
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• Philippines
11 Aug 09
I think of the senior members are more intelligent, have more experience in mylot and very calmn in their attitudes. They are confident and not easily distracted of any threat. they stand on their grounds and a firm believers of equal opportunity. And, some old members welcome newbies in their list of froends. other newbies really have bad attitude and very immature they cause a lot of tension. but, the senior remain a big part of Mylot, because of their loyalty and great contributions. They also start as a newbie before, all of us will undergo the same things..It does not mean that because you are a Senior your ideas is also backward. The newbies should not judge people because of their ideas..people have different perceptions and we just have to respect them. I value the freedom of expression but it should be limited, because too much excessive words tend to hurt the seniors and even the newbie is not exempted from abuses from other members who misinterpret others members when in fact they really have no deeper knowledge of the real personality of the person whom they are attacking. Not all newbies are sarcastic, others are respectful and full of valuable ideas. We need to respect anybody as we all just human capable of being wrong and not perfect..
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
Hi neelianoscet, new or old we are all the same and the only difference is I joined in earlier and stayed on to meet many newcomers to mylot. No, I don't agree with you that senior members are more intelligent. The newbies are good if not better when it comes to good intelligent discussions. But the only thing is some of them ignore the guidelines and simply post disregarding the rules of this place. I hope in time to come these newbies will turn into new leaves and mellow down a bit and there is no point of always going against the grains as we meet here most of the days. We must play according to the games of mylot and be very careful of what we say lest it might hurt others and land us in hot soup.
• United States
11 Aug 09
I think we all need to be respectful of one another, whether you're a newbie, a senior. I've always believed that everyone regardless of their age, can learn a thing or two from someone whether they are older or younger. If we all treat each other with dignity and respect, then we can all learn from one another and become better people. I've learned things from my children and I've even learned things from my grandchildren. I'm looking forward to learning things in MyLot.com, from anyone and everyone, regardless of whether they're a newbie or a senior. You're never too old or too young to learn.
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Travelingman I agree with you. Learning is an ongoing process in life.
• Philippines
21 Aug 09
Yes, I have noticed some of the older members showing a bit of arrogance too. Not personally though, although I am not one to retort them in a disrespectful manner. But there is a lesson here for both parties. The newbies must be polite enough to seek out the opinion of others, especially those who are far more knowledgeable about this site. But senior members too must provide as much guidance as needed. If any newbie commit a mistake, tell them in a straightforward manner what they commit wrong and what needs to be done to correct it. I have seen more than once a few old members trying to intimidate new ones who are still experimenting on the features of mylot and i say that is not healthy either. Let's jsut keep this place happy and fun, shall we?
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• Philippines
21 Aug 09
To clear up my response and avoid confusion, I note that i have observed some old members and I DO NOT mean that all senior members do have this tendency. I hope i do not offend anyone ;)
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• Philippines
21 Aug 09
hello there abbypringles. very well said my dear. anyways, maybe you just mistaken what those old members are trying to explain or say to the newbies. sometimes they may look so intimidating but when you know them truly better they are way far more different in so many ways. some may answer so differently and you didnt expect it that way. but you can always message them privately if you have doubts with their ways. but if you still find it kind of off then just leave it... there are still many members or seniors that you may really find so friendly and a good in many many ways. you are right. lets keep mylot community happy and fun... but if you need help i am always here for you friend welcome to mylotting jhelai
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
21 Aug 09
There is no reason to be rude and arrogant. We were once newbies and do understand the problems faced by newbies. There should be compromise on both parties, newbies and seniors then we can work together in happiness.
• United States
12 Aug 09
I would just like to know: What is the point? I read your discussion quite clearly. Oldies, newbies, and the whole lot of it. Isn't that a lot like being prejudice? You won't accept a new or different person? Why not just be open minded, and accept the next person, for basically who they are? I mean, i can understand if someone is actually bothering you. That would be a different situation. But, from what i have seen, you are simply upset, because a "newbie" responded or said maybe "the wrong thing" in your discussion? Perhaps, if a person is welcomed aboard, rather than trying to run them away, things would be a lot different. The world might even change.
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Hi shirley, you have your points there. It is not only me that feel the pain of reading the offensive words deliberately pointing to people who are aged, loyal to mylot but the newbies who are just trying to grow here are also affected and offended. What I understand from her response is that we the long standing members are of no value anymore and should be discarded like an old unused furniture. Furthermore this sort of derogatory remarks is against mylot regulations. The admin saw it fit to be deleted before it becomes a public sore and was deleted immediately when this post come to light. As an oldie here I feel duty bound to tell her that we are peace loving community here and her words are rude and offensive and can create disharmony in this peace loving community in mylot. There is no harm in giving out advice to people who might not understand the real working of this place.
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• United States
13 Aug 09
Alright, now i am beginning to get the point. Thanks for that explanation.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
14 Aug 09
@LittleMel (14055)
• Canada
12 Aug 09
doesn't sound like mature and learned person to me I mind my own business here, not threatening anybody I responded to any discussion I find interesting at any given time regardless new member or not That said, everyone is entitled to their opinions it's how we handle it, that makes the difference if it were me I wouldn't let it bother me you barely know this person and vice versa it wouldn't make a big difference whether this new member stay on mylot or not this new members may be just trying to stir up trouble if you give too much attention you will waste your time even when I was new I never wished seniors die etc maybe some fights but that's about it
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
12 Aug 09
Hi Mel, anything that I feel not right will make me retaliate. I can't just sit back and pretend that everything is okay when someone is humiliating us, the seniors here. I need to straighten her wrong perception of the seniors. Maybe am being too emotional that make me sound so busybody.
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@LittleMel (14055)
• Canada
12 Aug 09
I understand no you don't sound like busybody it's your personality and there is nothing wrong with it happy posting
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
13 Aug 09
Thanks Mel, for being open-minded and understanding.
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@derek_a (10902)
12 Aug 09
Well, I suppose I could be called an oldie, in both terms of my age and the fact that I have been on myLot for quite some time now. Well, I suppose for some people I can disappear and die, but I can assure you that I am still very much alive. . I have been a counsellor for many years and a Zen practitioner. If people value my advice and that is fine, but if they don't that is fine also. As far as the Internet is concerned, I find it great to meet many people from all over the world. Some people have learned things from me, even some older people (if that's possible! but I got to admit, that I have learned things from newbies too. Heck, I've learned things from plants and animals, and am still learning. Mylot is great fun and I thoroughly enjoy it.. Not bad for a old man eh? Happy mylotting - Derek
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
12 Aug 09
As a Zen practitioner I am sure you will agree with me that mylotting is a good form of exercise for the brain. It works the mind out.
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@derek_a (10902)
14 Aug 09
Yes, myLot can be good Zen practice for me, especially with discussions where I have to reflect for some time to find a response. - Derek
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• United States
12 Aug 09
Hello Zandi! I think everybody should have respect for one another. Wow, I am so surprised to see this type of discussion. I haven't come across anybody being dissrespectful to others. Shame on that person. I am new here too and found some really nice people and now friends. I was just saying in a few of my discussions that I am so impressed with this site. How, everybody is so nice to eachother and respects everyone's opinion. Well, Zandi, I for one as a newbie, like to thank all the nice people that I have come in contact with and helped me, guide me on this site. For someone that is not familiar with this site is easy to make mistakes. I am still learning and hope I never cross paths with any of these bad people you mentioned. :( Take care my friend and happy mylotting! :)
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
12 Aug 09
Hi Princess, welcome to mylot. It is so sweet of you to say nice things to the place and the community here. I hope there are more people like you who is so wonderful and appreciative of people around you.
• United States
12 Aug 09
Thank you Zandi! Likewise!
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@kelly10 (678)
11 Aug 09
I'm a newbie and can't believe that some posted such a silly comment. Without the older members on here there would be many things that we wouldn't know or understand as they are able to explain it in real terms to us that are just getting to grips with the system. I'd expect with that sort of attitude that person won't be here on the site for too long.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
Hi kelly, welcome to mylot. I think she is remorseful and she is here too responding to this discussion. From what I read she has some personal problems and probably that makes her write without thinking. I don't blame her as humans we make mistakes and there is always room for improvement.
@kelly10 (678)
12 Aug 09
Thanks for the welcome. All I've found since joining is friendly, helpful comments so I think, and hope that it was just a one off.
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@voldrox (7205)
• India
11 Aug 09
The same happens in real life too, there are young ones with attitude problems, they think they need no guidance and can manage everything on their own and all and they don't care care about what the experienced ones have to say, they do whateva they feel like and that's the way it is, and something similar seems to be the problem here... lol... am no oldie, i thought i would just give some of my suggestions here... ... have a nice day Zandi
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
11 Aug 09
Sometimes it is shocking to hear some hard words from people here. Words that can draw angry juices from others. Thanks for responding.
@allknowing (63673)
• India
30 Jul 15
I used to freely give advice. But now I shut up as I am told to