Credit Cards-Economy

@Polly1 (12645)
United States
August 30, 2009 11:06am CST
This is a rant, they Pi$$ed me off. I have had a particular credit card for over 20 years, have always paid on time, never once late with a payment. I also always at least made the minimum payment, sometimes more then that. It was my favorite credit card, the one I had carried the longest, it also had the highest credit limit. One day I get a letter from them, it goes like this. We are sorry but due to the economy, we have to raise your APR Rates up to 29.99%, I was at a 10.80%. If I don't agree, I can always opt out and cancel my card. This is the same card that offered me two months prior a special on balance transfers. I can transfer a balance or even get money deposited in my bank up to $6,500, for a low $3.99% APR. Of course I called them, didn't get anywhere, Talked to a supervisor, then talked to the manager of the supervisor, still didn't get anywhere. They were sorry but due to the economy they were raising APR rates like that for lots of people. I didn't want to do it but had no choice, I opted out and cancelled the card. Of course I still owe the money that was owed, just can't use the card. Companies just do not have loyalty for their customers like they used to. I was so upset with them people. I told them that I would not recommend them to anyone, that I would also tell everyone that would listen what kind of company/bank they were. To turn this into a discussion, has the economy affected your credit cards, buying a house, getting a loan, etc? Has anything like this happened to you? I have a few other credit cards, my one card lowered my credit limit. My mom has a few cards that have lowered her limit. She also has a card that raised her minimum payment from $290 to $700. I called them for her, they gave the same story, they had to do that due to the economy. I know the banks are hurting right now, but gee whiz why do they have to pick on loyal long standing good customers???? Sorry for the long post and thanks if you read it all.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I have 2 credit cards right now that both took a giant leap in their minimum payment and to be honest I am pretty scared that I may not be able to keep up....knock on wood. My past credit cards, I consolidated and have one more payment and I'm done. I am hoping that is what will save me on these two. Technically...If you consolidate, you are not supposed to use any cards. They allowed me these two because when I consolidated I was like you...never late on any etc. At the time, I had 3 kids at home and child support was pretty much never. I used them to get by...didn't buy extravagant things with them but it adds up. Just a tip...don't close them out. I did that on mine and when I consolidated, they could do nothing to lower my monthly payment because they were all closed out. If they are open accounts, you can combine them and not only lower the interest but the monthly payments as well. All they could help me do was pay them off quicker. They said I should go bankrupt because I was sure to fail but I did it. I suggest you consolidate and get away from the credit. I am planning on going back in and consolidating the two cards I have and hopefully be completely debt free soon.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I have learned wit tis discussion that there are lots of others that are going thru te same crap as me. The banks make it so hard on us, I always make my payments on time too. Thanks for the advice on consolidating, I will keep that in mind. I don't plan on canceling any cards. The one card I had to cancel to keep from having to pay an APR of 29.99%. Since I cancelled that its supposed to stay at 10.80% until its paid.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
1 Sep 09
When you consolidate your cards are you still allowed to have one to use. You never know when you might have an emergency where you have to use a credit card. Thanks so much for the advice and info.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I hope you seriously consider it. I closed all of mine because of the higher rates. I had been getting frustrated with them all and had been calling trying to work something out with them and assumed they would work with me because I was always good about paying on time. They were unwilling to work with me at all and even tried to tell me that if I consolidated that it would destroy my credit. It saved my credit. The only way they would work with me on lower interest rates or payments was if I were late on 3 payments. If you consolidate, you should go to a local non-profit agency. Some of these consolidation companies are as much of a rip off as the credit card places.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
4 Sep 09
That's such a shame. I also cancelled my longest standing credit card a few years back but I've since had to change banks and I'm back with them at a much better rate. I always make sure and keep myself safe from any horrible increase in credit rates. I always opt to take loans out for the longest period I can which gives me a tiny repayment rate then I pay as much as I can so I have a safety net. I try to stay ahead with my credit card too. Our credit card rates are high at the moment but not as high as yours. Yours are extortionate. I think credit cards are the downfall of a lot of people financially...they are not good for the users, only the banks.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
5 Sep 09
Hi MsTickle, as always its nice to see your pink smiling face. My other credit card rates are doing ok, I hope they stay that way. This particular card raised their rates like that, its legal robbery to me. With this discussion I have learned that its been happening to lots of others, now I don't feel like they were picking on me. Credit cards can save your butt, but they can also get your butt in serious trouble.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
5 Sep 09
Oh yeah, that's for sure.
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@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
31 Aug 09
The last time I owned a credit card was three years ago. I don't like credit cards because of a particular credit card company here in the Philippines that uses harassment to get people to pay. This credit card company employs people who will call you up no matter what time it is in the day to demand payment, are very obnoxious and insensitive. My brother who works in a bank says that these credit collectors are trained to do this because they get commissions from the payments that they are able to get (by force). Those who have had this experience will know the credit card company that I am referring to. The economy is just an excuse to raise APRs. If I am not mistaken these banks have in fact taken bail out money, so why should they increase their rates? It's true that companies no longer value long standing members. They will put profit above anything else.
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Its all legal robbery to me. They do put profit above anything. But now they are making it impossible for people to make their payments. I figure some money is better then none. Yes the banks did take a big bail out. I don't see how they are getting away with all this crap.
@Kowgirl (3490)
• United States
1 Sep 09
Just last week I started a blog about credit cards and what we can expect from the banks that issue them. Most all bank issued credit cards will be increasing the rates and fees and changing their terms. They are trying to get as much money from their holders as they can before the regulations take force in 2010. They don't care about you ,just the money...BUT There is a way to legaly stop paying interest on credit cards and you can use your cash back credit cards to make money. Go to http://intrestfreecreditcard.blogspot.com/ to read about the changes and learn how you can stop paying interest on your credit cards. It's time we started to learn how we can stop paying them an arm and a leg for their loans. It's sad when a person has to pay back $400 for an item that is only worth $50 and at the rate they are charging it could be even more. No intrest payments are a good way to pay off your credit card and increase your credit score
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
3 Sep 09
Thanks so much for stopping by and giving me that info, I will be sure to check it out. Interest free credit cards, sounds like my cup of tea.
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• India
31 Aug 09
This is what the banks and financial institutions always do, they just corner the middle class, hard working and god fearing people, and they allow the big swindllers to get away. If you have $1000 loan, they will be always at your back to pay it and send some threathening letters or send some muscle men to get it back. If you take a loan of more than a million bucks, then you are treated royally, and your credit is also rescheduled and even if you do not pay it back, nothing is done.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
You are so right, you hear on the news about some of the ultra rich folks not having any money, being broike. Yeh right, they don't look poor or broke to me. The banks give them millions to help them out, that kind of stuff doesn't make much sense to me.
@Goatlady (159)
• Ireland
31 Aug 09
maybe, though it sounds crazy, can a bunch of you somehow get together, and write to help me howard, or 7 on your side. (don't know if that is still in existence, and bring up the issue with media. They are quick to accept their bonuses, but penalize the customer. I don't have a CC myself anymore, but will be getting a prepaid one .
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Thanks for stopping by, have a good day.
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Yes, it has. I just recieved a letter that they are raising ours from 9.9% to 22.9%. It is crazy. It seems like they want everyone to default.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
It is crazy the way they are doing us. The economy is even harder on us ordinary people trying to just live. I don't buy anything unneccesary.
• United States
30 Aug 09
This is the reason so many people lose their homes, etc. Credit card companies get ya coming and goin.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
30 Aug 09
Yeh they sure do, as always its nice to see you. I hope life is treating you ok and also I hope that things are getting better. Take care.
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@GardenGerty (157485)
• United States
30 Aug 09
We count ourselves lucky or blessed to be in as good a shape as we are in. For a long while we were sinking very fast.
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@rusty2rusty (6751)
• Defiance, Ohio
30 Aug 09
How oneart canthy switch a minimum paymen from 290 to 700 and do it legally? that is nuts. I heard all credit cards are doing this kind of stuff before. I heard it is because of the bill Obama has passed to do wth credit cards. That they re doing tings like this nowbecause they will not be ale todo afterwards. I know my payment went from 20 bucks a month to 80 bucks amonth. Needless to say, I canceled the card.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
30 Aug 09
Its legal robbery. I even told that to them on the phone. All this was done befoe Obama passed the bill on credit cards. Thats how they got away with it. The credit card companies are really going to be hurting even more, all their good paying customers are cancelling them.
• Defiance, Ohio
30 Aug 09
In my opinion, they are going to get what they deserve in the end. The world did okay before credit cards. It will do great without them.
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I think it is all a scam. they do not care about the customer. I had two credit cards. I used them both and would make my monthly payments or pay them off in full if possible. They cancelled one of them because I had not used it in a while. They also lowered the credit limit on the other one also. They both had a zero balance on them too. I wanted a credit limit increase to make a purchase with it so not that is impossible too. They are ate up!
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I have had cards that I have had for many years lower my limit too. Its happened to my mom also. These big banks are going to recover eventually, they even got help from the govt. Do they really think that we won't remember the way they treated us when the economy gets better. I know I will remember how they did me. My mom also had one that cancelled her card because it hadn't been used in a long time. I haven't checked on mine that hasn't been used, they might be cancelled too. As always its nice to see you and thanks for stopping by.
@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
31 Aug 09
hello Polly1, I don't usually use credit cards but since I was told before that applying for a VISA abroad is one of the requirements for they need my credit history. And because of this I applied one in the bank where we have deposit. So I've been using that for almost a year now. So far I don't have any problem with it yet since I'm paying all the amount that I purchased monthly. This way I don't have to worry about anything.
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Thats good that you aren't having any problems. I never had problems neither until this happened. Now with this discussion I learn that its happening to lots of people. Its also good that you got credit, it is important to have.
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• Philippines
20 Sep 09
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
30 Aug 09
When I got that notice under the same conditions you got it, I called, they let me keep the same balance at the same interest if I closed the card so that is what I did. This didn't seem to change my credit score, but I sure resented the hassle and will never deal with them again. I don't know if this was the same company, but I share your rant.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
30 Aug 09
I did the same thing. I cancelled the card, but kept the same interest that I had been paying. I haven't checked my score. But I do know that they look at how long you have had your credit cards, the longer the better, this particular one I had for 20 years. My card was an AT&T Universal Visa card with CitiBank, it was a platinum card and I was a charter member.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
30 Aug 09
Yes mine was with Citibank also. If they continue to loose us loyal customers there will be in trouble again.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
30 Aug 09
Is'nt that something, your right, they are losing good paying customers they will be in even more trouble.
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@jacksong (130)
31 Aug 09
I dont have any credit card, cos i always think spend money befor you earn is is not a good habit. So i keep saving money.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Thats good advice, thanks...
• United States
31 Aug 09
I feel your pain! I am struggling with my credit cards right now. My interest was put up too and my minimum payment has got ridiculous but like you, I couldn't get them to take it down, due to 'the economy'. I do blame myself for getting the amount on my credit card I have - its not huge but I have been laid off from work, so at that point it became huge to find the payments, and I am in that cycle where I am paying my minimum and interest every month and ot paying my balance down, just maintaining it. I am trying to dig myself out and it would be really nice if they could work with me and say, we will lower this to something manageable so that you are able to make the payments until you get a job. But I guess they don't have to, and know I am not alone in this situation. I look forward to the day my biggest card is paid off. I will CRY when I make that last payment, with happiness!
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
We are nothing to these big banks and companies, just a number. I am in the same cycle too, strugling to make ends meet. I do what I have to do. The economy stinks for all of us. Thanks so much for stopping by and also Welcome to mylot, this is a great place to hang out, meet people from all over, we also learn alot. We can even come on and rant about our problems and find out lots of others ae going thru the same crap that we are. Take care.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
27 Sep 09
I agree with what others have said. You would think with the Economy the way it is they would want to keep their customers and reward the ones who always pay on time instead of penalizing them, and making things worse. It really makes me wonder who really is in charge. But seriously with so many of them tending to go this way anymore, I wish there was a list somewhere of companies who do not do this so everyone ever wanting Credit would know which ones are the Best to turn too for sure.
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@GardenGerty (157485)
• United States
30 Aug 09
Polly, we got in deep with our cards when they did stuff like that a few years back. We do not carry any credit cards at all. If we need one, we preload it. You were too loyal and good a customer, they were not making very much money off of you. They had to raise the rates. Not very nice at all.
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@dfollin (24167)
• United States
30 Aug 09
I do not have any credits cards or loans.But,my mom does.They have raised her minimum payment and percentage rate both on the same card.She was having enough trouble making the minimum payment before. However I have seen other payments and prices go up.I do not have medical insurance so therefore I have to pay the doctor.The price has gone up from $70 to $115 for an office visit.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Its just not fair sometimes. Who can afford to live anymore, I guess all we can do is our best. My mom is having it rough too, actually we all are.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
31 Aug 09
I feel sorry for you. It seems after 20 years of being a customer, they could not value the loyalty. Its sad but true in many cases, the loyalty is lost. And due to this recession and all, many financial institutions have become more protectionist.They should have valued it.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I have learned withh this discussion that these big companies aren't showing loyalty to anyone. Bottom line they don't give two hoots about us. The economy will get better, I will remember how I was treated, they won't get my business anymore. Thanks for stopping by.
• United States
31 Aug 09
i personally dont have anything other than a debit/check card. however the same exact thing has happened with both my dad and my grandmother! for dad it was Discover, his APR went from 11 or something to 29% too! he called they said it was due to a "late payment made in DECEMBER" in DECEMBER?! and they are just NOW doing something about it? bullsh*t. he even went back through records and he NEVER made a late payment. he called back, the man at the company said that (and get this TOTALLY illegal flat out lying) that dad would have to make payments FOR ONE YEAR AT THAT APR, in order for them to consider lowering it. bullsh*t again, they told him he could NOT cancel the card and keep the current APR. flat out lied to him! so he told them to not expect any payments from him at all and that they can take him to court...1 month later they send a letter offering him an APR at like 15%..dont know if he's spoken to them since then or not lol! for grandma..she has too many cards..7. but even though she is on a very fixed income she was always able to make the payment and usually a bit over like you do. then EVERY card she had raised their apr to 29% EVERY ONE. like your mom her BofA card min payment went from just under $200 to $642 a month! thats 2/3 of her monthly income! then with all the other cards min payments jumping up she would actually be in the hole by a few hundred dollars each month and that doesnt even count FOOD or her medicine! i finally got her enrolled in a managment plan and damn if that wasnt a month long hassle trying to get the credit companies to agree to the proposal! now she has a whole $130 left each month after JUST making the credit card payments! if i wasnt here she would be able to pay perhaps 2 utilities and not eat. what really pisses me off about this whole situation is the fact that us "little people" are getting the flood affect of "sh*t rolls down hill" and ultimatly the credit companies are screwing themselves..since by raising the payments/apr like that they are causing many many ppl to choose between eating and making a minimum payment..im sure as hell choosing food, like most families, so that means that instead of getting a $50 check each month they are getting nothing...how can the credit companies think raising the apr is going to benefit them like that?! ok..now my rant is over lol!
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Your rant sounds exactly like my rant. I always make my payments, but if they keep doing this, I will have to choose between food and making my payment, I am going to choose food too. What are we all to do, the banks and credit card companies are forcing people into bankrupcy. It seems that these banks and companies did all this crooked stuff just before Obama made his changes. Thanks so much for stopping by, tell your grandma and dad that they aren't the only ones the banks are picking on, there are lots of others in the same shoes.
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
14 Sep 09
It's pretty much happening to everybody now Polly. One of mine has been hiked way up there so I canceled the card and so has my mom's and she was only using hers for medical bills and nothing else. Now she has nothing and can't go see her chiropractor/acupuncturist anymore which was helping her a little bit from the effects of her stroke. It isn't right at all but what can we do? Not a damned thing but suffer the consequences of things that are beyond our control and is NOT our fault.
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@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
14 Sep 09
I know the banks are hurting too, but so are we. They even got help from the govt. and can write off a bunch of stuff on their taxes, not us. They didn't show us any loyalty, who do they think is going to be their customers when they recover, not us. I had to cancel one that I had for 20 years, it had a high credit limit on it too. I just knew I was not agreeing to pay 30% interest on it, thats robbery. I have a few other cards that haven't been back stabbing, I will remember them, I will also recommend them.