Dilemas over the Tasks

@Shar19 (8236)
United States
September 1, 2009 4:45pm CST
Is anyone still doing the tasks? I think I pretty much gave up. I have too much of a hard time getting them to approve. Here's my question - Where are we supposed to get the information where it says to write a bunch of paragraphs about a topic? Aren't we supposed to get it from the internet? But then if we do get the information from the internet then isn't that illegal since we're using someone else's information that we got from the internet? So how are we supposed to do that kind of task? I'm really confused on all this.
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40 responses
• Indonesia
1 Sep 09
me too, 5 of my taks rejected. 3 task rejected with reason my English is bad. That is oke. Than I make task with a good English, I try do this task with my friend whom have a good English. But my task rejected too, with different reaoson.. hahaha... But, I still try to do the task. I hear about hotlegs, I do task in hotlegs and approved.
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
What is hotlegs?
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• Canada
2 Sep 09
HotLegs is another task creator (like SharonBucks) who posts writing tasks from time to time :)
• Indonesia
2 Sep 09
That is same with sharon buck. The job is make article. But until this time I only get one hotlegs.... I never see hotlegs again. That is very bad. All of task is sharon buck now....
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• United States
2 Sep 09
I keep the following information on hand in case I get accused of plagiarism (illegal use of information) hope it helps you! The "fair use" exemption to (U.S.) copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's vital so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to appropriate other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. Are you reproducing an article from the New York Times because you needed to in order to criticise the quality of the New York Times, or because you couldn't find time to write your own story, or didn't want your readers to have to register at the New York Times web site? The first is probably fair use, the others probably aren't. Fair use is generally a short excerpt and almost always attributed (give link to original article). (One should not use much more of the work than is needed to make the commentary.) It should not harm the commercial value of the work -- in the sense of people no longer needing to buy it (which is another reason why reproduction of the entire work is a problem.) Famously, copying just 300 words from Gerald Ford's 200,000 word memoir for a magazine article was ruled as not fair use, in spite of it being very newsworthy, because it was the most important 300 words -- why he pardoned Nixon. Note that most inclusion of text in followups and replies is for commentary, and it doesn't damage the commercial value of the original posting (if it has any) and as such it is almost surely fair use. Fair use isn't an exact doctrine, though. The court decides if the right to comment overrides the copyright on an individual basis in each case. There have been cases that go beyond the bounds of what I say above, but in general they don't apply to the typical net misclaim of fair use. The "fair use" concept varies from country to country, and has different names (such as "fair dealing" in Canada) and other limitations outside the USA. Facts and ideas can't be copyrighted, but their expression and structure can. You can always write the facts in your own wordsthough See the DMCA alert for recent changes in the law. http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
@zed_k4 (17627)
• Singapore
2 Sep 09
Good info here, Heather..
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
Well said. Hopefully this helps some people understand it better.
• United States
2 Sep 09
zedK4 I had to get this info because a couple of years back a FORMER myLotter kept reporting me for plagiarism. She could never get it to stick and she is gone but I am still here!!
@quita88 (3716)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I am practically brand new to mylot but seems to me like someone had a discussion on tasks and said they were not worth their effort. I'd like to know who else says what on this too tho.
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
Most people seem to agree.
@quita88 (3716)
• United States
2 Sep 09
after reading all these discussions, it would seem that most agree that tasks are difficult and not worth it.
@ElicBxn (60884)
• United States
1 Sep 09
me too, I'll just leave those tasks things for people that like that sort of thing
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I think you are right. Some people have better luck with these things.
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@ElicBxn (60884)
• United States
1 Sep 09
and, ya know, I'm not here for the bucks so much as the conversation, so while I'd like to make payout, its not the pressure that it is for other people trying to make ends meet by the change they make here
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@meapas (2434)
• India
2 Sep 09
I have not done any tasks so far but soon I might make a try. I can understand your problem. Just consider this. There are so many subjects you have learnt in school and colleges. Are they not available on internet?. They are all there on the internet. Don't copy and paste. Rewrite them in your own words. What ever we learnt are all there on the internet just refer them. In case you want to copy and paste then provide the necessary link from where you have taken. I hope now you can go for it.
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I may try to do another one but if that still gets rejected then I give up.
@Jennlk84 (4219)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I've kinda given up on the writing tasks because I'm really just not 100% sure what they want as far as organization goes. I've had a couple rejected and they don't really tell me why, so I don't know how to correct the problem. I've made the mistake of doing some of the tasks by mylot users themselves and have gotten screwed there too - so no, I'm not doing many tasks these days. It's just not worth it. I'd rather spend my time posting. I miss the the link tasks from Sharon Bucks. Haven't seen those ones in a while - but they were always easy for me and I always though they were worth the time.
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
It seems that most people agree with you.
@Canellita (12058)
• United States
2 Sep 09
Illegal? How would it be illegal? I think you are confusing plagiarism and copyright infringement with researching information. No one owns research unless it is something like a patented process discovered in a lab.
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I think the whole thing is confusing me.
• India
2 Sep 09
I have pretty much gave up the tasks because the money I get for completing the tasks is less and for that i need to write nearly four paragraphs.Its heavy work with less fruits.So i left them..
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I agree. It takes a long time to do them and the compensation isn't very good.
@youless (92251)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Sep 09
I still check the tasks now and then. It seems there are more writing tasks lately and that is great because the incoming is good. However, English is not my first language so that it is too difficult for me to do the writing tasks. What a pity! I have to leave it alone and wait for a suitable task for me. I love China
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
Well then I guess that is good for you.
@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I am doing 8 or 10 a month, one got rejected for a grammatical error. I fixed it and it was approved. It is like writing a research paper for school. You can't copy directly. I usually do some reading, take notes of the important thoughts, then I write an intro, write a few paragraphs with the meat of the article and then a summary. I usually get then done in about 45 minutes. A few I was able to write without doing research, those got done in about 20 minutes. I love them. But this batch on CPAs and insurance...how boring!
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
It just seems to me like it takes such a long time to do the tasks for the paragraphs and then you don't even know if it will approve or not.
@GardenGerty (100344)
• United States
1 Sep 09
It is no more illegal to use the internet than it would be to use the encyclopedia or dictionary. They are references. You read several references then put in your own words what you read. It is only wrong if you copy and paste someone else's words and do not give them credit. I may do some tasks if I ever get caught up on my freelance work. It is not the most interesting topics this time, but I see some I could do.
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
Thanks for clearing this up somewhat for us.
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@stephcjh (32327)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I am confused about it also. I did four tasks and one got rejected and the other three were approved. I did four more and they all got rejected. they tell us to look online for information and write it in our own words. I am confused to so I stopped doing them too.
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
Glad I'm not the only one feeling this way.
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@Cherryd41 (1121)
• United States
1 Sep 09
Hi Shar Beats me I have no idea how to complete the tasks thats an area I have not yet tried my hand at earning with Mylot. If anyone posts and answer to your question I would interesting in finding because I would like to know how to complete those to earn extra cash, thats a good way to pick up an extra 10 cents.
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I haven't even bothered trying the small ones for a few cents. I've been trying the ones to write paragraphs.
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• Philippines
1 Sep 09
I too have stopped doing the tasks after I got rejected twice in a row.. I really don't get how are we supposed to do the paragraphs when all we have for research is the net, and then they say that what you submitted was copied or something.. anyway, it's really confusing, maybe that's why there are a lot of tasks now that noone is touching...
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I think you're right. It seems a lot of people gave up.
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@iriscot (1290)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I haven't tried using the task option. It looks too involving and hard to get approved, so I just keep posting and responding. The legality of gathering and dispursing information can be a touchy situation, so I try to stay away from it unless I can give credit for the articles.
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
Yes it can be very discouraging.
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@dlr297 (5413)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I have been doing the tasks, about 2 or 3 a month. out of all the ones that i have done have been approved except 1. When i do the research on a subject from the internet i go to a number of different sources, and i write what i have read into my own words, so it is not just copied from some where. that way it is your own. I run what i have written through a plagiarism check. Which will tell you if any of your sentences match any on the internet. You can do this free. I also run a spell check on it just to make sure my spelling is OK.
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@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
1 Sep 09
Thanks for the advice. I never heard of a plagiarism check. I'll have to check that out.
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• Canada
2 Sep 09
Yes, I do tasks regularly (almost daily if they are available) but I only do the SharonBucks writing tasks. I like them a lot and they definitely help me increase my earnings. You can absolutely research online, as others are saying. No one would expect otherwise since it's the most available resource. The key is that you simply can't repeat, word for word, the information you read. As someone else mentioned, it's like writing an assignment in school - copy it off the internet and you're going to fail for plagiarism The main things I try to remember when I write the tasks is to be informative and factual, using as many of the keywords as I can, and to never write in the first person or give my personal opinion on the topic. If you consider that these pieces are to be used as website content, it's important that someone visiting the site can learn something of value about the topic from what you've written. I've noticed in the more recent SharonBucks tasks that there is generally a line or two giving a bit of a "recommendation" as to what to write about... maybe more people will find that helpful
@vandana7 (66045)
• India
2 Sep 09
Hi thinkingaloud, that was quite informative! Can u tell me how long it takes them to clear the task? I mean I did 6 so far, and of them 2 have been approved. I am not sure I have got the hang of what is expected of me. So though I have done them, I am here twiddling my thumbs.
• Canada
2 Sep 09
Hi vandana! :) I'm glad you were able to find the response helpful! The approval process for the SharonBucks tasks - in my experience specifically - has taken anywhere from a few hours up to about a week. There is no specific timing but her particular tasks I know to be reliably reviewed. As I mentioned, those are the only tasks I work on (and, admittedly, I've seen other people reporting a lot more difficulty with other task creators). If you've had two approved, that's a great sign and it took me probably as many as the six you've written to really get into a flow of how to write them. I found that I sort of developed a general style that works for me and it's adaptable to most topics. I expect that the "openendedness" of being to write "anything" about a topic and keywords is what more people find challenging. Good luck on your four pending tasks...I'm sure their approval is just around the corner! If I can be of help with any other questions, I'm always glad to try :)
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
Glad you are having some luck with it.
@comfort55 (1574)
• India
2 Sep 09
In my opinion, you should always go for that task of which you have some knowledge. Thatway you can write few lines from your own and get some basic information from the internet which you can write in your own words. Have a nice day and a better tomorrow!
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
The problem is that most of us don't have any knowledge on the task topics.
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@comfort55 (1574)
• India
2 Sep 09
That's the reason that inspite of so many tasks available, one can hardly attempt any.
@zed_k4 (17627)
• Singapore
2 Sep 09
I think reading up on the net and coming up with your own strategy research is alright. After which, you can concoct up the knowledge and summarize in your own words. The tasks look pretty hard for me too, and I think I'll pass it off for now and let others take on them.
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
That seems to be the right way to do the research.
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@zed_k4 (17627)
• Singapore
3 Sep 09
Ditto to that..
@carolbee (16241)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I tried to submit a task once. It was a bit too difficult to figure out how to send it and have myLot accept it. It's my understanding we are suppose to research the subject on the internet. I think what the rules mean is not to quote the article we use as a reference. Just use bits and pieces and write our own article. I wrote a 4 paragraph article and it was rejected. That was it for me. I was done and wasn't going to waste my time again. If myLot wants to offer the members other ways to earn on the site, they should make a better attempt at making the project easier. I tried the "quizzes" the other day. I won't do that again either. It was a way to get my personal information and accomplish nothing. A few months ago I contacted myLot and suggested they start a game area. Something similar to Pogo where members can play and earn credits or get paid directly to their accounts. It might be a fun way to play games and socialize at the same time. For now I will only respond to discussions or start a few. The task section is a little too far advanced for me since I really don't understand the concept of submitting a task only to have it rejected.
@Shar19 (8236)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I agree. I also tried the quizzes thinking maybe there would be some kind of compensation but nothing ever happened. I don't know why we even have them. I wish the tasks were a lot easier too for the majority of us to do.
@carolbee (16241)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I would definitely look at the task list and write something if there was an easier way to submit them. Some members do understand how it's done but I'm not one of them..lol