REALLY? It NEVER Happened? Did We Imagine It?

If you imagined it, we are having a mass hallucination here. I do occasionally wonder if I am hallucinating when I see the venomous and vicious responses to logical and respectful posts about the issues - those occasions when these posts receive responses that say the poster is just a racist and that's why they hate Obama. I have received many on-topic responses to discussions but I have also received the incomprehensible charges of racism when it had nothing to do with the issue at hand. I am not a racist for thinking Obama is a bad president. I don't feel I disagree with him because I "can't stand the thought of a black man as president". It's a whole new era, alright. One in which you can't defend yourself or you are accused of starting the argument.

Oh heck YEH it happened. I was once called a "closet racist" and told I used code words for it like "oposing policies".....no....seriously, thats what I was told, I was a closet racist and was trying to hide it by using code words. And this was after I posted on some legislation I was working on to inoculate my state against federal intrusion, from a potential Obama or McCain and BUSH administrations. It's a battle you can't win. You can't defend against it, there is no reasoning, they just call you a racist and thats that, "i'm not a racist"...."yes you are yes you are yes you are....lalalalala can't hear you can't hear you, your a racist your a racist your a racist!"

I laugh in the face of anyone who pulls the race card against anyone who opposes Prs. Obama. Most of us remember a time when it was much of the Black community who said he wasn't "really Black". ROFL

Some how I feel like I'm stepping into a hornet's nest but, I've seen the ignorant statements said that people opposing the president were raciest. Which by the way doesn't make you raciest, well not for opposing his political ideas. Are you a white sheet wearer? I prefer to sleep in my white sheets, so I suppose I'm a white sheet sleeper LOL Sorry, I just had to find some humor in this irrational reasoning. I've made this comment before and I'll probably say it a thousand times more- liberals need to understand that just because conservatives don't agree with the political ideas of the person running the country doesn't mean that they don't like the US and the same can be said about conservatives. Just because conservatives don't support Obama's ideas doesn't make them raciest, and just because liberals didn't support Bush's wars didn't make them unamerican. One crazy conservative doesn't speak for whole just as one crazy liberal doesn't speak for the whole, EVERYONE seems to forget that all to often.

Looks like we had the same dream. I have been called a racist for just disagreeing with his policies so many times it is not even funny. It happened here on this site and other places. Heck that actress Janeane Garofalo called everyone who went to the tax day tea party protests racist on live tv.

I've only been here since July but I can say I've seen people call others racist and worse...for questioning Obama. How do these people think? Then can disrespect the head of the GOP and it is not racist...but we can't say a word against Obama without being labeled racist. It goes beyond politics and into fantasy if you ask me. No, I would call it Orwellian...if you say something enough, it becomes fact.

It was a very bitter war with the election even before the primaries, & yeah, it happened in real life, & has happened here also quite a lot on both sides. During the primaries, democrats were calling Obama supporters woman haters (I forgot the word that was used), & Hillary supporters were called racists. I am unsure if it happened here on MyLot though. I have not looked lately, but all we need to do is actually look, & we'll still find where people could not think of a good argument for their support for Obama, & then turned around & pulled the race card. In other words, the accusation of being racist was because of some of the Obama supporters losing arguments/debates, & the lack of anything intelligent to support their points was accusation of racism. At the same time, MyLot has deleted some of those discussions, & deleted some of the responses & comments. They also even suspended someone & cleaned out all of her discussions & responses, because she took things too far. I believe there was another who also got canceled because all this person was able to do was pretty much try to start flame wars. People who say that we imagined it probably just did not find the various discussions & responses from late 2008, or are recent sign-ups that missed it all.

Kitty as you have seen on a few occasions I have most unfairly been called a racist because I do not like Obama. If Obama was not black but white or yellow I would still dislike him. To be called a racist when I have (now) three great grandsons who I adore varying in skin color from dark brown (the oldest), golden (middle baby) to very dark (the baby) is ludicrous. At first I was hurt and insulted at these racial slurs aimed at me until I realized it was because the person did not have the intelligence to debate the issue in question. I wonder if the person making the insulting slurs realize they are instead only showing their own racism and ignorance.

Anyone that is a Obama supporter, and you say something about not liking what he is doing the first thing they do is yell you are racist. I'm not racist I don't give 2 hoots what color he is, if he is doing the wrong things for the american people he is not what this country needs, it is easier for them to yell racist than to face the fact that they screwed up when they voted for him and now instead of admitting that we have a nutcase in the white house everyone is a racist. Obama is the racist as I see it, I dont' think he cares for the white people and will do what ever it takes to bring them down. But you don't see anyone calling him a racist. There are always going to be people that aquise others of racism because it is easier to stand behind that than to actually except what is happening. Anytime you don't agree with them you racist, the color of his skin should not of mattered when it came to choosing a president, but that was what got him into the white house, not what he knew or how much experience he had he ran on racism. So those calling others racist better check out the Obama side before calling others racist.

It was NOT your imagination. I remember it well and it wasn't all that long ago. I got called a "white sheet wearer" for making the observation that Michelle Obama's election night outfit looked like it had a blood splatter pattern. Got called a racist too. Someone called me a racist not that long ago and anniepa came to my defense. There have been several of us who have been called these names.

See this is the kind of thing I really really can't stand. Selective freedom of speech. We are talking about a politician here. WHO CARES WHAT COLOR HE IS? It's his policies under fire, and to pull the race card and use it against people who speak out against those policies simply because they come from a skin other than white, makes THEM guilty of fostering racism. WHY can't they see that?

It hasn't happened to me, but I can see it. There is definitely an element in the black community that believes if you criticize anything about a black person you are racist and that black people can't be racist. How do you fight that?

i am from the uk and i think that he should have been voted in for his policies not his colour as i beleive he was to make him the first black president and i think it is only right to question his policies as you would any other leader dare i say a white leader to make sure he is truly representing the people who put him in power

oh, my true colors are starting to emerge already. and i thought you-tube was the worst site when it comes to racism and hatred. and now, they're here too. how can they be so sensitive when people are trying to say something that they believe is a fact. instead of accusing you of that, they should counter the argument and point out why you are wrong and not simply just call you a racist. it' just a cheap ultimate act of spike if they have no or little capacity to argue...Who are these people, certainly i have also the right "not" to participate in their topics, or responses.

Hey Kitty, Iam from India and its a country which was colonized and tortured by the British rulers for more than 150 years. You may find it very amusing that if an Indian says or write anything about it then they are called as 'Racist'. The point which iam trying to make is you are not the one who goes through all this. Well I remember when Bush was the President of America, white, non whites & everyone else had some thing to say about him. And mostly something appalling. That time no one had this racism issue. So why people are making so many noises if someone have some things against Obama. Well in Politics, healthy criticism is extremely important as far as iam concerned. People are always going to have their opinion, but then they are just opinions. You have every right to say what you feel. There cannot be any restrictions on that. I always condemn English and the adjacent countries for what they did to us. And if they find it ' racial ' I don’t care a damn about it. A fact is a fact and everyone should know about it. Cheers, Tutul

Kitty, I'm so sorry I hadn't seen this discussion until now because it's a good one! No, you didn't imagine anything, what you've written really happened and it's a shame. I think it's tragic that, with all the serious problems we have, so much time has to be wasted on all this divisiveness and polarization. For the purpose of this post let's say there are two groups of people - Obama supporters and Obama detractors or whatever word should be used to describe them. There doesn't seem to be anyone who is neutral on this subject! I'd guess that, like with other groups, most of those on both sides are basically good and decent people with their own legitimate reasons for feeling as they do. Some are "smarter" than others, some are better educated and better informed and all have their own priorities and their own standards by which they judge political leaders. MOST people from either side can disagree with those on the opposite side without feeling hate or anger; they can discuss and debate the individual issues respectfully and civilly. However, again as with any group, there are those from both sides who make the rest of us look bad. There are racists on both sides and there are those who unfairly accuse the other side of racism. I can really understand how you and other must feel when you're accused of being racists. I know it would really p1ss me off big time! It DOES irritate me when someone accuses me of "worshiping" President Obama or any politician because I certainly have never felt that way about anyone in politics! There have been those I've admired and those I've liked and respected but WORSHIP? Hardly! I know nobody is perfect and if I ever were to find a politician with whom I agreed 100% on everything the problem would be with me because no two people could honestly agree totally on everything. Having read through this whole discussion I don't believe there is anyone who responded here who is a racist. There are some with whom I disagree on some political views but that doesn't mean I disrespect them or think they're less intelligent than I am or less caring and compassionate that I am. I think most of us here love our families and our country and want what's best for both. We may not all agree on what that "best" is or how to achieve it but if we did it would sure be boring, wouldn't it? MOST of us would agree that people like Drew Peterson is a murderous scumbag, so as long as we have that things can't be too bad, can they...lol? Annie

It happens often that people opposing Obama's agenda are called racist. The reason they fall back so often on the racist claims is because they know to defend many of his policies would make them look like complete idiots. The racist claims are a more effective as a distraction from real political questions and helps them save face from trying to defend his bad politics.

I can't tell you how many times I've been called a racist on mylot. I had a few members who used to call me "grand wizard" and "grand dragon" all the time before they were banned. One person used to even say garbage like "you'd better not put burning crosses on my lawn". Funny you mention Michael Steele since there actually were a few attacks on him based on his race by liberals on these forums calling him a "token negro" and "uncle tom".

Being a newbie around here, I have not seen it here. But I wouldn't doubt that it has happened, as its rampant anymore..and not just with Obama. Our society is full of..oh..mindless(?)..folks who defy social logic. (I'm not sure I said that right, but please bear with me.) They've lost sight of constitutional values! They've either forgotten, overlooked or openly ignored that this country was set up to be '..of, by AND for the people' as in 'WE the PEOPLE' which means all of us! They've forgotten that the rights and freedoms of the individual can only be protected when the rights and freedoms of ALL individuals are protected. As an example..I have often told folks that 'the freedom of speech' regardless of how its worded has far less to do with the right to talk. It gives us the responsibility to listen! Only thru listening do we support the freedom of speech and thereby assure ourselves the freedom to speak when, as individuals, we have something to say. I suspect (believe) that social hate terms like 'racist' are control tactics to keep you offguard..Why control?..Its a human condition to try to control what we fear. What we don't fear we don't try to control. While you're fussin' and fumin' over this racism thing you're paying less attention and the folks who slammed you have the opportunity to continue uninterupted. It may sound silly to you, but rather than reacting hostilely take it as a sign that you're making headway and continue to push and prod as you have done before. By crumbling to their tactics (as in this case) you're giving more validity to the tactic and you are giving control of your actions over to them and giving these folks more opportunity to get their activities in motion. So, to counteract these activities don't do what these folks expect you to do. Do what keeps them offguard and looking over their shoulders by doing what brought on the attack in the first place..got it? ENJOY!!

I am new here but I know you aren't imagining it. I have seen many people demonized for disagreeing with Obama. It is wrong to call someone racist simply because they do not believe in the policies of one man. And I have also noticed that if a black person is conservative they are fair game, it is not wonder Colin Powell turned his coat he just wanted to be liked for once. Keep it strong Angry Kitty. You aren't a racist for not lapping up every word Obama says.