Why is there so much hate associated with Unions?

United States
September 8, 2009 7:53am CST
I don't understand why it is that so many people have such hatrid for Unions. I know of many hard working union members, and I own many of their outstand products. I bet that many of you support union members, and don't even realize it. So why all of the hate?
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@xfahctor (14128)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
8 Sep 09
Not all unions operate the same way and not all have the influence some seem to have. In the days they were first created, unions were nessesary, labor law was non existant and work conditions were atrocious. However, it seems unions in a lot of cases have gotten far too big and their power and influence rivals congress. Many have become lobby power houses. I have also seen case after case of unions that have been the ruin of business, the direct ruin.
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@xfahctor (14128)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
8 Sep 09
I think union law needs to be changed to actually protect and serve the worker, not the union bosses, not big labor lobby, not the government, and changed so that a union cannot bring down a company and put it's own people out of work. How do we acomplish this, I can't say, but it is a certainty that there are a large and growing number of unions that need to be reigned in.
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
8 Sep 09
Well this is the opposite of what the right thinkers feel, but I think anything that slows the greed and exploitation of the workers is a cause to want to stifle growth. Some people look at it as a cancer. But the unions created the middle-class and if we lose them we lose... period! I've worked in the manufacturing area in the south, there are no unions there, and not much of a middle class either! Someone has to keep the exploitation of the Corporations under check! tdemex
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• United States
8 Sep 09
Tdem, I agree with you 100%. I have a friend that runs a welding company down in Georgia, and when Cat moved down there they had a hard time finding people that would for more than three weeks. He had to hire some union guys from up north because they couldn't get any work done with the none union people down there.
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• United States
8 Sep 09
Ted, before unions there were the rich, and the poor. THAT WAS IT.
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@irishidid (8732)
• United States
8 Sep 09
I'm not totally against unions. They are needed in many instances. One company that desperately needs them is J.C. Penney. I've worked in their warehouse and can't count how many days I worked 8 hours straight without a break because the workload was far greater than it should have been.
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• United States
8 Sep 09
LOL, I worked for J. C. Penney when they I was in high school. We worked the prep for their big sale. I worked 48 hours, in four days when I was 17, all under the table through my school. I don't think that was legal, but at that age I really didn't care. You could have filed a complaint with your local labor board, but that is usually useless.
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@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
8 Sep 09
Maybe the hatred is based on being forced to submit to a standard that is below what the individual is used to. For instance, I know a guy who owns a construction business. His is not a union shop. However, when working within a city limit, such as Philadelphia, he is required BY LAW to hire at least TWO union members, and to pay a union scale wage to all across the board. Generally speaking, those two union schlubs are the laziest, sloppiest, ill mannered and unappreciative jerks the union can find. More than anything else, they are planted there to slow the process down, thus breaking the non union companies contracts. back in the day (first husbands day that is...) X worked for Ford, union (UAW) membership paid in full. X had some co-workers that didn't work, slept on the job, were not safety minded etc. The union protected those cretins and the jobs they were hired to do, allowing them to continue abusing the system that was put in place to protect workers from bad management, instead of firing them and hiring some one who COULD AND WOULD do the job properly. These are just a few reasons to dislike unions. They (the unions)are certainly NOT what they were initially intended for in this day in age.
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@irishidid (8732)
• United States
8 Sep 09
My ex was called in to do some extra work on hospital rooms. The union people were taking way too long and he said they would take 2 hour naps after lunch. He said they looked like big beached whales laying on the floor.
• United States
8 Sep 09
Jodi, there are examples of that, and I can tell you that I have seen the same thing in NON UNION shops and they get away with it for "other" reasons. I do agree the laws that require union workers, because those cities want their workers to have a "living wage". See, when the working class people make more money, they spend more money, thus creating more jobs. Those union wages have put many more people to work, and have allowed people to go to college, and make the world a better place. If it wasn't for unions we still would be working 60 hours plus a week. Do you enjoy your weekends?
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• United States
8 Sep 09
Here in the city I live we had two NON UNION ambulance companies, and our city fire department (all UNIONIZED) had paramedics, but they would only transport when the other two companines were backed up. The two other private NON UNION companies were so bad and outragousely expensive ($1,500 for a non emergency transport) that people would wait with life threatening conditions for the city ambulances, because the other two were so bad they didn't want to risk their lives with them NON UNION doesn't always mean cheaper, or better
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
8 Sep 09
Thegreatdebater, In my opinion, and many others, unions have outlived their usefulness! Today there are laws in place to prevent the sweatshops and unfair labor practices that gave the unions their beginnings. Now unions exist solely for one purpose, the union! They will throw their membership under the bus in a heartbeat. They are unneeded and in most circumstances breed a lower quality worker because they are "protected". Another thing you might take notice of. If you live in a community where there is a good sized union, next time they renew a contract and get that sizeable raise, check out your grocery and consumable goods and see if they don't jump with the union raise.
• United States
8 Sep 09
Rodney, I don't agree with you. There are some union guys that I work for that do things I would never dream of doing, and do them well. Would you hang from a bridge 175 feet in the air, over a river fixing light bulbs? Would you dive in to a river and weld forms for a new bridge? Realize that almost everytime you drive over a bridge in this country you are putting your life in the hands of a union member. "They are unneeded and in most circumstances breed a lower quality worker because they are "protected" Why don't you tell that to Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Payton Manning, James Harrison, Albert Pujols, or Shaquille O'Neal. I am sure they would love to hear you call them "a lower quality worker"
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@tdemex (3547)
• United States
8 Sep 09
You go my man! Tell em like it really is. It's funny anyones in the union they way the right thinkers put it! It'd be you and me only! LOL! T-----
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@irishidid (8732)
• United States
8 Sep 09
but td, I thought you were for the illegal alien having jobs over Americans. Since when did they start having unions for illegals?