do you feel women hold a lowly position in many of the world's religions?
September 19, 2009 1:48pm CST
in many of the citings of the religious texts ,i felt as if the women are placed at a lower pedestal .i may be wrong but i really got to know if actually the texts or the interpretors version of the texts.do you feel the same?
22 Sep 09
If you really want to understand this, then first and foremost you will have to accept that there is actually no “God’s word’ in any religion i.e. none of the religious books of any religion were revealed by God or angels! All religious books and scriptures were formulated and written by men to suit their own purpose in society and at home. And I mean all religious scripts, including my own Hindu scripts…every religious script mentions women as being created either after men or from men or as a companion to men. No religious scripture gives the woman a separate identity in her own right…also note how in almost all religions, God is addressed to in the masculine gender. It is men’s ego which makes him think of himself as the epitome of creation…much above women just because women are physically weaker. But then, animals are physically stronger than men, does that make animals superior to men?
23 Sep 09
Sudipta, In Hindu Scriptures there are time-dependent Scriptures and Time-independent Scriptures. What are held as the God's Word are only The Vedas. The secondary Scriptures are the remembered ones i.e. the Smritis. These are not treated on par with The Vedas, in the sense that as per the Hindu belief system THe Vedas are equated not only to God's Word but as His image in Sound.They are His very breath. It is in Smritis which address societal problems of the later day that you find this view of women as "Kamini kanchan...","pitaa rakShati kaumaare... a la Manu". The Vedas are social-organization neutral so they do not talk "lowly". But one can ask whether the position that Vedas gave was there by the time of the Smritis, and further down the tertiary and Level-4 Scriptures? Definitely not. The reasons are many many.During the period of The Vedas, India was very safe place.
29 Sep 09
Yes, I agree. Even I think that women in ancient India were much more free and independent than what we see around us today. However, I must say that if we take the Ramayana as a benchmark in ancient Indian history, then the conduct of Ram towards his wife Sita after the battle, when he ordered her to give Agnipariksha to prove her chastity...it really shows us the way Indian male treat their women. And Rama is still very much reverred and looked up as the ideal man!
• United States
22 Sep 09
if you go way back in time, god was a female before he was male. it wasn't till men started to realize the role they played in the child making that the maleness of god was born. till then women kind of had a little "majick" about them, they could bring new life into the world. I think the next step for any male would after realizing that he played a role in the child making would be to want to know who his children were, have a role in their lives, ect. he couldn't do that really, unless the women were willing to allow a little control over their lives. he couldn't be certain of his parental rights unless he was certain that there was one women out there just for him. thus came in all the barbaric moves against women. or maybe they weren't all that barbaric. It was kind of like an even trade, maybe.....more like the first institution of slavery but, well....still an even trade....the man worked to sustain the family, the women allowed herself to be put on a second tier, was protected from the other men for the most part, and was free to care for those children. she was dependent on him for the security and the necessities of life, he was dependent on her to keep herself pure for him, for sake of having a lineage.
• United States
19 Sep 09
Men have been trying to control women since the beginning of timeRIGHT???? The world is getting better. There was a time in the USA when women couldn't own property. We have come a long way. If we could just get pay equal, of course,business can think up any reason not to pay so much. Now that the economy is bad, they have the upper hand.
25 Sep 09
Honestly religion was old world's socio-political organization too. By the time guided religion in the form of Sacred Books(substitute any name here) took shape the "family system" where the the male brings home the bacon, and the female holds fort where food is made for the "provider" and the kids that tag along, hence their protection and upkeep had already come to stay. Religion only put a stamp of Divine Approval on this pre-established set up. It was only as civilization moved up to gretaer finesse that religious literature came to address the truly elevating loftier questions about God and purpose of life had become the concerns rather than addressing the power struggles in society or family.