Wow ObamaCare and Microchips

@celestos (814)
United States
November 28, 2009 6:18pm CST
So I read somewhere around page 1004 of the Obama heath care plan that people who are covered under said plan are also agreeing to the placement of a microchip in their bodies. A "raisin" that could replace cash, ID and even text your mobile phone when its time to take a pill for instance. It also will have your complete medical history available as well as your ssn and will be definitely accessible to the government. So my question is this. Are we ready to say no to this type of "Change" yet? Or are you ready for everything personal about you to be up for grabs by whomever has access. The thing that gets me is some are under the impression that their information would be safe in this manner. I mean weve never had a breach in security when it comes to protecting valuable information right? Especially information that our government had in their possession....So what is your take on this?
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@thezone (9451)
• Ireland
29 Nov 09
Hi celestos, RFID chips are still up for debate, they can have some very positive applications but also some very negative ones. I use to work for a company that was researching the applications of RFID chips and there is in my opinion a very sinister side to it all especially when they are talking about human implants. One a chip is inserted you can be tracked anywhere you are in the world and in my book I don't like it , I value my privacy. All I will say is "The NWO grows closer"
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@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Thank you for your reply. I value mine also. I read also somewhere that even employers could have access to certain things on these chips when it came to hiring employees (which could be rumor) Either way I wouldn't want my employer to know my personal health information lol
@thezone (9451)
• Ireland
29 Nov 09
Exactly. Once a person or employer or anyone for that matter has the ability to read the chip all your personal information is theirs for the taking. The technology is in place and anyone who has a bit of know how can read the chips. I can see the chips leading to so many problems for people.
@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
And we were worried about identity theft before lol
@charblaize (1030)
• United States
29 Nov 09
This doesn't surprise me, they say we are "free" but they are taking all our freedoms, privacy and life with them whereever we are, go,. I don't like this idea either.
@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I think its a dangerous ideal
• United States
29 Nov 09
i know, there are going to be many not happy with this, too much ordeal and what about our privacy rights?
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• United States
29 Nov 09
they can call it what they want,but it sounds like a tracking device to me. they can kiss my butt,i'll cut it out myself. that's just going too far.
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@celestos (814)
• United States
2 Dec 09
I agree with you.
@harmonee (1236)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I don't know if there is anything in Obama's plan about a chip or not, but it seems that if there was, it would be a bigger deal. I mean isn't that what we do to our dogs? I don't think we need to do it to ourselves. I understand why they may want to, but I agree with you about the security issue. If there is equipment that can get our credit card info without even touching our card, don't you think they could pretty easily invent something that could snag our ssn and medical history. I'm all for getting some sort of universal health plan as my wages are currently being garnished for non payment of medical bills that I just couldn't afford, but I wouldn't want to be "chipped" either.
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@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I have read in a few places that Verichip is also a company that is involved in the manufactoring of this chip. I am all for a good healthcare plan but anything that is going to jepordize my privacy or freedoms..no thank you. Thank you for your response.
@sid556 (31005)
• United States
29 Nov 09
That's a lot to digest and I'm still working on Turkey Day dinner. I'll have to read up more on this as this is the first I've heard of it. Sounds like some pretty scary stuff and there is no way I'd be willing to put any sort of microchip in my body! That's like something out of some sci-fi movie.
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• Australia
29 Nov 09
wtf? I am of those who mistrust of what the government wants to do and how you want to manipulate people. I would not put li.
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• United States
29 Nov 09
This is bs! Where are you getting this information? It makes no sense. Is this really what was in the bill? Was this made up? I really cannot trust anything that the conservative, right-wing, Republicans have to say because they are making it so that people who truly need health care right now, do not get squat. I do not know where you all are getting this information, but I do not trust it.
• United States
29 Nov 09
For the record, I am losing my health insurance in two days! Scare tactics are not working on me. I want my health care, or so help me, someone is going to pay! I don't care if they have to put a chip in me, better that than me dying, and for the record, I will die if I do not get the health care I need.
@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Nov 09
So go read the bill, on or around the page she mentioned and see what it says. Why is it you assume anyone oposing this must be a "right wing republican"? I'm not a right wing republican, or a republican at all for that matter.
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• United States
29 Nov 09
I just cannot believe this, and I think that people are misreading this bill. I don't even believe that this is in this bill. I know that the Republicans are trying to scare people into not signing and they are trying to scare people into thinking that this bill is worse than what it really is.
• Malaysia
29 Nov 09
When we talk about new development absolutely there will be many pros and cons, things which both parties will come up with practical reasons in those areas. By nature, chips implantation kind of identity in human body thing which already many times had been shown in movies. Now, it come to the reality world and at the same time many already used it in clubbing world. In my opinion as technology is concern, in your highlighted issue about data retrieval and data accessible, I remember one thing that can be forwarded as relevant to your questions - the one person who invented the supersonic jet fighter fully equipped with anti-radar detector and the same person also invented radar detector to shoot down that supersonic jet fighter. So, I think better we as Americans be the first to lead in this kind of "health" technology and others as followers. if we are the one who don't want to take it, other countries will lead us. As I said, nothing to worry about it, the one who invented the technology in future they also be the one who teach us how to terminate it. A geek create good software for users to use and the same geek produce powerful computer viruses, why? the answer is profitable business matter takes first.
@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Would it not be great for everyone to have this chip implanted and in a moment of insanity whomever has access to the functioning of these chips decides to pull the plug? Since we are in the world of Tron now...what if when the "Chip Master" pushes the big red button and our impanted chips release a deadly poison into our blood streams killing us all. So much for being the first to grab out ankles... Do we really want to trust the government? I mean they have a track record of dropping the ball more times then most people have had hot showers. No one will be chipping me as I am not a bulldog.
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• Malaysia
30 Nov 09
hahaha!...what made you so scared!!! once bill approved you and me cannot runaway from it because both of us are American. I'll fly back home just for that!!! hahaha! I want that thing to be implanted into my body, many advantages for me to have it! I love that 'silly' thing because it'll make money a lot for me...hahaha! ain't you?
@celestos (814)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Not sure what your trying to say..but no one will be implanting anything into me..American or otherwise.
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@uath13 (8207)
• United States
29 Nov 09
That sounds like some of the scare tactic B.S. Obamas critics have been spreading around. That's not going to happen.
@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
What are your reasons for it not happening?
@uath13 (8207)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Well for one thing adding it would ensure that there'd be no way it would ever pass all ( or frankly ANY of ) the conservatives in office. That alone would be enough to destroy Obamacare. He'd have to be a COMPLETE idiot to put it in. His opponents however know that saying something like this ( whether true or not ) would cause more panic & distrust of his ideas. So of course they'd say it was in there & hope the population is foolish enough to panic & not read.
@celestos (814)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Okay I understand what you mean now. Thank you for your reply.
@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Nov 09
I downloaded a copy of the bill and am looking through it again. It doesn't apear on or around page 1004 in the PDF version. Could you give me an idea of the text surrounding this part to make my search a little easier? If it's in there and I missed it, I want to know about it, but before I sound alarms anywhere else, I want to verify it. If true, it is pretty sinister and orwellian. I will also say this much, people will be hurt or killed trying to put one of those things in me.
@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Nov 09
I think I know where this comes from now. If I understand correctly, it is refering to a registry for implanable medical devices and such, like pacemakers etc. This is the closest I could come to an implant chip in the bill
@spalladino (17925)
• United States
29 Nov 09
While I do believe that we need to do something about the healthcare situation in this country, I'm not letting anyone put a chip in me. This is not a new idea. The microchip technology has been around for many years and I've always known that the plan was to eventually force people to have a chip in order to be able to work or do business of any kind. I'll live in the woods before I agree to it.
@celestos (814)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I agree!