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By Gabs
@gabs8513 (48686)
United Kingdom
November 30, 2009 6:13am CST
It seems that this week is not going to be a good one, I really hope it is not going to be like this all week
A few of you will remember that Gissi and I go and visit a Lady here in the Village who has Alzheimer, she adores Gissi and loved our Visits
Well this Morning I bumped into her Carer who has informed me that on Friday Night she was sectioned, this has upset me very much, as I did not think she was that bad
But apparently, she has been going out at Night to the Pubs here in the Village and when the Landlords of the Pubs would refuse to serve her she would attack them, I have not heard anything like this in the Village but this is what the Carer was told, so on Friday Night the Police, 2 Doctors and a Nurse went round to section her, she put up a Fight but was sedated in the end,
I am very sad over this as she had never turned on me, never been nasty to me, so why to others
I will miss visiting her and seeing her happy Face when she sees Gissi and when he fusses over her
She was always so happy when we went round to see her
We will certainly miss her and I do hope she will be ok I really do as I know this is something she was scared of
Why does this happen to People? I know she was not a relative to me but she was a Lady that needed comfort and to be accepted, to be treated normal, not like a Fool and I really like her
I am hoping that she will settle in and be ok I really do
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
30 Nov 09
Sorry Gabs, ‘sectioned’ means what? Will she be kept under surveillance for the rest of her life and lose her independence? I can understand how you feel as my mom too seems to be suffering from Alzheimer’s and a lot of people laugh at her behind her back.
I think the lady became violent maybe coz they were making fun of her…you known, I’ve seen this in my mom…she forgets things and when I point it out to her that she forgets, she gets angry and starts shouting…a kind of self-denial that only we who know her, understand. Something similar must have happened to this lady…she must have forgotten to pay or maybe they knew she keeps forgetting and were teasing her over something…people can be real cruel Gabs, as you know.
Anyways, what was the carer doing? I mean, I don’t think it was safe in any case for her to go out alone anytime. We don’t really like mom going out (another bone of contention in the family right now) as we are scared she might forget what she went out for or may be her own address if she got lost!
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
The Carer was only to see her twice a Day
In the Morning to make sure she had taken her Tablets and at Night to cook her Meal, she was not there as a Full Time Carer as the Lady's Daughter lived next door but never bothered
Sectioned means she is now in a Care Hospital for the rest of her Life so we will not be seeing her again
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
1 Dec 09
Just as I thought Gabs....very sad indeed. You know, we all will age in time (as will the lady's great daughter
)and this thought sometimes scares me and I feel the best would be to get myself admitted to a Home before I lose my senses and become a burden on my son
)and this thought sometimes scares me and I feel the best would be to get myself admitted to a Home before I lose my senses and become a burden on my son1 person likes this
@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
30 Nov 09
Gaby, you and Gissi are going to miss her, but she is better off now, and in a little time she will not know the difference. She will still live in her own little world of memories, but she will be safe.
Gaby, ask yourself what COULD have happened had she not been taken into care.
You know there are a number of possibilities - and none of them are good. What would you rather have for this lady? Surely she is better where she is. Yes, it is sad. Alz has that effect. Hopefully, in time, there will be advances in that treatment, but for now, she is at least safe.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
Oh Cloud I know that but it is just so sad
And she was always so happy to see Gissi, yes me to, but Gissi was her Centre and she loved him so much and he always made her Smile or laugh with his little ways
But I guess she will be safe now where she is and live in her little World with no danger, this World includes her Husband and Mum as she always talked about them and of course she believed her Mum to still be alive, which was strange as she was well aware her Husband had passed away but not her Mum it was strange
But yes she is safe now and hopefully will not be hurt any more
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise. It could be very dangerous for to go wandering out alone at night and perhaps forget how to get back home or something worse. I join you in hoping she will adjust to her new surroundings and get good care.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Gabs, now could this be the "rumor" of the son in law? If you live in a village area it must be very small and tight knit, if no one has said anything, it makes me wonder. I hope she will be okay, I assume by sectioned it means she is strapped to the bed for her own safety and the safety of others? Well how could such a sharp turn happen? I assume it's common, but either way you've seen her and know how she acts, she was afraid of being sectioned, and I would think she'd try her best... she went from just being confused to being violent? Something smells fishy here. I don't like it one bit.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
It means she is now in a Home and yes it is true as it has come from her Carer who got a Phone call from her Boss who had a call from the Hospital
It took 2 Policemen 2 Doctors and a Nurse to remove her from her Home, which is apparently the Procedure, so no she has gone into a Home now, also the Daughter left instructions no one is to visit her not even the Carer who looked after her for 3 years, the Carer was in tears and she was very attached to E
The Landlord of the Pub called the Police who then called Doctors and that
Maybe she was that bad as she was known to go out at Nights, but why did her Daughter not stop her I know I would have
I think she will be safe now and no more torments for her I will miss her but I am hoping that she is safe and being looked after now
The SIL got his way in the end
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
1 Dec 09
Gabs, is there any hope that a lift for no visitors will be issued? Surely she'll be lonely there by herself. Will the daughter even go to visit her? It seems not, and yes the Son In Law won in the end, which is not right. I just hope he feels a little remorse if nothing else. Well I will be sitting with my hubby's great grandmother soon. She is doing very well for her age.
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@mentalward (14691)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Aw, Gabs! I'm so sorry to hear this! Unfortunately, it happens to most Alzheimer patients. As their brains are shrinking, they lose specific abilities at different times. There is a section of the brain that controls our "brakes", what we use to understand when something is inappropriate. When that part goes, there is nothing to hold back a person from acting in any number of bizarre behaviors. Call it our "conscience" if you want.
I am sorry that this had to happen to your friend, especially now, right before the holidays. Hopefully, with the proper medication, she'll be able to settle into her new surroundings.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
Hi Mentalward, it is just so sad but I understand what you are saying, something inside me just keeps hurting and hoping that she will not miss Gissi to much and think that we have deserted her
Her Carer told me that she always talks about Gissi, she just started to remember his Name to but was still confused that he was a boy and would call him a she lol
But that didn't matter she always brightened up when she saw him and he made her laugh so I hope desperately she does not think we have deserted her specially little Gissi
But yes she will be safer now and I hope well looked after
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
30 Nov 09
It certainly is very sad, gabs, but Alzheimer is a desease that can change peoples character completely. Unfortunately!
My husband's mother has Alzheimer, she has always been a very tolerant and friendly lady. Alzheimer has turned her into someone else.
When the desease got to an advanced stage she became nasty sometimes and even attacked her son with a pair of scissors once.
Ten minutes later she forgot about it and asked him if he wanted a cup of coffee.
She is over 84 and doesn't recognize anyone by now.
I hope that science will soon find a way to cure this terrible desease.
Best wishes to your friend.
XXX Dana
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
2 Dec 09
Yes, I think that it's possible that Gissi somehow sensed s.th. Gabs.
As you know animals have a kind of intuition that us humans don't possess. Sometimes I wish I was an animal, lol.
Ps. I'm not keeping up with all of your discussions, not too well lately and my stepfather is still in really bad shape. I'm really trying to be positive...
Love and hugs to you
XXX Dana
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
Hi Dana it is so good to see you again I really miss you
I just hope that she will be safe and looked after now
This is the first time I have ever dealt with someone with this Illness but she was always so happy to see little Gissi she adored him and he always made her smile
There was one thing tat always used to get me thinking but I think I have just got my answer, when ever we used to go and see her he would fuss her and make her laugh and that, but then he would come up and sit on my lap and stay there till we would leave, now Gissi is not one for always being on my lap and when he does it is just a few Minutes, now if a Person with this Illness can just turn like that, I wonder if Gissi somehow sensed something and that is why he stayed on my lap and The Lady always used to say to him, it is ok I will not hurt your Mummy and Gissi just used to lie on my lap and look at her, I told her that it is not that he just liked to sit on my Lap which was not entirely true but I did not want her to think that it was because of her, could it be that Gissi sensed something Dana
Big Hugs to you always and so glad that I have seen you again xxx
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
1 Dec 09
Oh dear, the poor lady. I've never heard of a patient with Alzheimers be violent although my grandmother became very sneaky and went to the letter box for her cheques and hid them from my aunt. She wouldn't cash them either which made things rather difficult as my aunt was her carer. She would become quite truculent apparently when my aunt tried to be firm with her but that was her nature even before the Alzheimers set in.
Try and be glad that you brought some happiness to her sad life Gabs. What does "sectioned" mean?
@gemini_rose (16264)
•
4 Dec 09
That is really sad to hear, it is such an awful illness and awful to see people suffering from it. I know when I used to work in a nursing home that they can become violent, I was attacked many a time during my years there. Bless her it is really sad and you probably gave her a lot of comfort visiting her, not many people would bother these days.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
8 Dec 09
I am just hoping that she is ok I have not heard anything at all, but did not expect to
She was always lovely to me, People called me mad for going to see her, well I did not care she needed someone and she loved Gissi so much she always called him the little dog with the pointed Ears lol but the last few times we saw her she actually remembered his name
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
9 Dec 09
well this is very sad but if she'd gotten to the point where she was abusive to servers at the pub because they wouldnt serve her she really must have been out of it. because if she was afraid of being taken and still drew this attention she obviously didnt know what she was doing. i just hope she ends up somewhere she can be happy and people understand shes not herself and know how to take care and be kind with her because of her condition. as she is not herself any more.
@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Hi Gaby,
I'm sorry for the loss you and Gissi will feel. By sectioned do you mean isolated from people? Her disease unfortunately progresses to the point that she is experiencing right now. From what I understand, they really don't know they are behaving like this. It just hurts the people like you and gissi and everyone else who loves her. Maybe there is someone else who needs you and gissi now.
Take care sweetie.
Hugs
Leenie
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
3 Dec 09
Hi Leenie, no I can't visit her Daughter has forbidden Visitors so there is no chance of that
I am hoping that I might bump into her Carer again soon and find out how she is doing that is if the Carer knows
It is still hard to see her house in Darkness all the time but I really hope she is being looked after well now
Hugs to you
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
Hi Leenie
It means she has now been put in a Home and will never be able to come out again
I guess she will be safe now in her own little world and no one can torment her any more
I am just worried that she will miss Gissi and think he has deserted her
She even remembered his Name and the Carer told me she always talked about him, he was the little cute dog with the pointed ears and his Mum was the lovely young Lady with blond Hair lol then it went to Gissi and his Mum, the young lovely Woman with the blond Hair
This told me a lot it told me how much she had taken to Gissi as she remembered his Name lol
I just hope she is safe now and will be ok
Hugs to you Leenie
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@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Gaby,
Can you call the home and see if she can have visitors? Tell them that you are close friends. If not then ask if you can send her a picture of you and Gissi. Then when and if she has a coherent moment she will know who you are. Try not to be so sad. Gissi will wonder what is wrong. Big Hugs!!
Leenie
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@froggieslover (3069)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Hello gabs, I am sorry to hear that your friend is going through this, I will never understand alzheimers but I know it takes a real toll on the person that it attacks.I have heard of people lashing out at others when they have alzheimers before and I am guessing she must of found some sort of comfort with you and Gissi that she didn't need to lash out at you. I too hope that she will be able to settle in where she is now and that they can really help her so she isn't so scared.
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@froggieslover (3069)
• United States
4 Dec 09
She will be, you have to believe in that Gabs....are you still able to visit her?
@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
1 Dec 09
Sorry to heard about your friend. Can you go and visit her at the home? Maybe she will still remember you and Gissi and be glad to see you. It is sad when this happen to old people.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
1 Dec 09
boy this certainly is a bad week for you, so many things happening, well they say things happen in threes so that should be the end of it for you now.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
30 Nov 09
That is really sad indeed but it's unfortunate how this disease affects different people. It does cause for some to become violent when they're not normally that way. It's because they don't know the person they're attacking and out of fear they attack to defend themselves. They don't realize that the person is related to them or a friend who wouldn't cause any harm to them but their minds are so eaten up by this horrible disease. She needs help and to be somewhere where she can get the help that she desperately needs. She's going to be ok. Keep telling yourself that and hopefully, that'll help settle your nerves of the idea.
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@tamarafireheart (15384)
•
30 Nov 09
Hi Gabs,
Thyat is so sad, but somehow I've have a strong feeling about all this, all is not what it seems, there is some very suss, first her son-in-law was stealing things from her home making out that she is losing her marble completley and now this? I don't belive that she attacked anyone and I tink it was all planned to have her put away by her son-in-law, can't anyone see that?, I feel so sorry for her, bless her, at least she will be looked after better now. Love and hugs.
Tamara
xxxx
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Nov 09
Well I believe that to but will never voice my Thoughts to anyone I have no proof so of course it is just my Suspicion and I believe now that the Daughter was behind it to all that about not letting them book her Mum in a few weeks ago was a Front or she would have taken better care of her Mum, even just sitting with her a couple of hours at Night
Well I just hope that she is safe now xxxx
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
1 Dec 09
Hi gabs~ I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I remember
you speaking about her many times and telling us how she loved
when you and Gissi came to visit! That is really very sad for
her. But, maybe it is for the best that she is now in a safe
place. She obviously had some sort of problems and probably
did need medication and to be watched so that she wouldn't
hurt herself or anyone else. I know that you are going to miss
her and you certainly were very kind going to visit her with
Gissi to check on her and cheer her up. I'm sure she really
enjoyed it and it was so lovely of you to do it.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
30 Nov 09
This may not be a bad thing, wasn't someone stealing from her, won't she be protected now? Me I'd rather have a heart attack and just go then to loose more and more of myself when nothing can be done. Blessing to you for all the attention
you gave to her, YOU AND GISSI MADE HER HAPPY
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
3 Dec 09
Well I hope she will be at least they will make sure now as well that she eats properly
She has a Paddington Bear that she loves very much I hope that it has been taken in to her and the 2 Fluffy Dogs that she has to as she would always sit and talk to all 3 so I really hope they have taken them to her
Thank you Pat
