Since I Was Accused of spreading misinformation amongst other things

@cynthiann (18619)
Jamaica
January 19, 2010 11:22am CST
I decided to copy and past the following article that was published On January 16th 2010, in one of our Daily Newspaper in Jamaica. Due to size I have cut out some of the article but left that which I consider to be important. "On July 16 and 23, 2007, we told the story of how Raymond Kirlew, of St Ann, helped to nurse his wife, Yvonne, back to health when she had cancer of the lymph nodes. "She has been going for tests routinely every three to four months to make sure the cancer (lymphoma) remains in check. Up to March 2009, Yvonne's test results were basically the same. But between December 2008 and March last year, Yvonne was feeling pain and having frequent nerve spasms in her limbs. From March 22 to 26, she underwent a series of tests. Continued medication and shock treatment for the nerves that were damaged by chemotherapy were suggested. They decided against the shock treatment. However, the pain and the spasms in the legs continued, accompanied by night sweats. More tests and examinations, including a brain/body CT scan, were done between June 23 and 28 in New York. Cancer movements were detected and a detailed positron emission tomography (PET) scan was recommended to be done as soon as possible. By now, Yvonne was feeling pain in her limbs, abdomen, groin and lymph nodes. July 28 toAugust 2 saw her undergoing the PET scan and blood tests. That examination was conclusive. Cancer was once again invading Yvonne's lymph nodes. And to find out how fast it was moving in order to determine when chemotherapy would have started, the doctor ordered another scan. Slow movement of the cancer cells was detected. A month's monitoring and administering of chemotherapy as needed were suggested. Cancer returns "Together, Yvonne and I started contemplating what arrangements to make regarding starting and continuing the chemotherapy treatment," Ray said. "When Yvonne started to have restless nights and cold sweat, I feared the worstand learnt that the dreaded cancer had returned. I was so devastated. We all know that when cancer returns it is harder to treat." Yet, things took a strange and positive twist when Yvonne's sister sent Ray an email. The message contained information claiming that the leaves, stems and bark of the soursop tree could cure cancer. "I had also started seeing several articles on this miracle fruit and set about reading and researching these claims,"Ray said. I got so convinced of its power, I advised Yvonne to try it. Moreover, since she has hypertension and nerve spasms, it should help as I read that it also lowers blood pressure, and repairs damaged nerves. I thought, 'This is too good to be true'," he recalled. Fact or fiction, Ray set about to cure his wife once again. "He convinced me to try it; I consented. He boiled leaves and bark from a tree in our yard. The taste was awful and I hardly slept due to all the pain I was in. I decided not to take any more, but after Ray suggested that the pain may have been a result of the soursop fighting the cancer, I continued to drink the mixture, sometimes diluting it with other juices to disguise the taste," Yvonne said. "After a while, it was easy to swallow without dilution. After taking the soursop tea about three times a day, the pain started to subside and she got less and less spasms over time. After a month, she felt no pain in the areas where they once were prevalent," Ray added. There was no room for complacency, however, and more check-ups took place from September 20 to 24 in order to decide when the chemotherapy would have started. Ray called the doctor for lab results.. And a baffled doctor told him the cancer movement had stopped. "Yvonne returned in November 2009 for a check-up. I visited both doctors (oncologist and general practitioner) with her, bringing some soursop leaves along to show them what Yvonne had been drinking. The GP was amazed that no chemotherapy was necessary. A blood test was ordered for Yvonne. The doctor called three days later to advise that Yvonne's blood was perfect ... So far (January), she is still without pain. She is due for a check-up in March," Ray told The Gleaner. "Having myself experienced the other amazing properties of this remarkable plant, I have become a believer in its inherent, God-given properties. I am hopeful that the cancer will eventually be defeated and, if and when it does return, that it can at least be halted, thereby extending life," Yvonne said. "When I got the news about the soursop treatment I was over the moon with joy. As of now, the cancer has been stopped in its track; both of us are very happy. Every day we pray that this dreaded disease does not return, but if it does, we just have to face it head-on. As a husband and a friend, I'm committed to help Yvonne defeat this monster, with God's help," Raymond declared." I do not know these people mentioned, but again declare that I knows four persons who've used the leaves and bark of this tree and as yet, the cancer has not returned. I did not claim it wa a miracle cure - just that it has helped people that I know. I do not give misinformation so perhaps it is time for me to take a break too like Thea and Somecowboy. Do you get mad at some responses?I never have before.
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@katsmeow1213 (29047)
• United States
19 Jan 10
That's an incredible story. Sorry to hear you've had a hard time with some of the members. I have been there before too. I find some members to be far too judgemental and critical, and yes some posts and responses have upset me at times. There've been times Mylot has stressed me out so much that I drag that stress into my personal life. Times like that I do decide to take a break. For a long time I stopped posting my own discussions and only stuck to responding to discussions that my friends start that I recieve through e-mail, like this one. Then after some time goes by I decide to start a few again, but I do my best to keep the discussions generic. I notice I have more of a problem when I start personal discussions about my own life or decisions I'm faced with. I used to feel like this was a good place to come for advice, but now I feel like there's just too much judgement and critisism. It's best to just ignore the judgemental and critical members, and focus on the ones who'll only say kind things to you. And when a discussion starts going bad, like they sometimes do, just give it up. Stop reading the responses and ignore the whole thing.. that's what I do.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
19 Jan 10
After reading what you said I know why I care for your so much I was just reciting what I knew - did not say it was a miracle cure but one response so got to me. leaving for a while, sweetie pie - take care.
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• United States
20 Jan 10
You are right kats, some people just like to argue and make trouble for others. I too have been upset by others. I did not leave here. I had my say back. Then dropped it. Some people don't believe in much of anything, too skeptical. They should try being optimistic sometimes, they will learn more.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
20 Jan 10
Thanks for your great support - will not post for a while and anser just my friends' discussions. antique lady gave an answer and it appears to be have been deleted. He was just an arrogant Brit!
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@moondancer (7434)
• United States
20 Jan 10
I don't see why you would let the stupidness of another person make you leave the lot. If they don't believe it then they just don't want to. Some people are like that. You have told us about this before...when my daughter-in-law was told she had cancer. I told her about this. We don't have these trees here though. They are monitoring her and if she has a need for them I may ask you to send me some...I'd pay for everything and your time of course. This lets you know that I DO BELIEVE what you said. I mean it!!! Don't let the nonbelievers run you off. If they don't believe then let them. It's not right of them to down you or say that you are lying about it!!!! I know people have the right to write what they wish her. But being nasty about things to someone is totally uncalled for!!!!
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• United States
20 Jan 10
I'M SO SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR BABIES AND OF COURSE YOUR HUSBAND..i KNEW ABOUT HIM BEING IN THE OTHER PLANE ooops sorry for the caps. I feel the same way you do about some of the people hear and I feel the same way. I get my feelings hurt kind of easy and some people hear can really get me upset. I do not tell lies either. People that know me tell me I'm too truthfull..to the point of putting my foot in my mouth or making things hard for myself some times. I will even tell on myself if I have done some thing wrong or whatever. I don't think there is such a thing as being too truthfull. I just tell the truth no matter what. I'm so glad that you have calmed down. I'm sorry if I seemed to heavy in the mouth about you leaving. If you wanted to go, I don't blame you and I would stand behind your decision to do so. I still want a cutting off of one of those trees, lol. I've thought since you told me about it 6 to 8 months ago that I wish I had one for my daughter-in-law and a long time friend of mine that has cancer too. You take care and post when you are ready. I will look forward to the time when you do.
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@AmbiePam (49493)
• United States
19 Jan 10
I think this will encourage many people. It nevers hurts to be aware. And yes, I do get angry at some responses. And it is hard to hold my tongue when that happens. Sometimes I don't succeed.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
20 Jan 10
I didn't succeed either!
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@AmbiePam (49493)
• United States
20 Jan 10
Good! lol
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@sid556 (31005)
• United States
20 Jan 10
hi cynthian, I saw the other post regarding this and I did not take it that you were sending false info. I saw the response that got to you. You also got accused of referring to the island as soursop rather than the plant. It read really clear to me that you were referring to the plant rather than the island. You were not spreading false information at all. You stated your personal experience and then did some research. I also read a couple of responses that said this particular tea can cause symptoms of parkinson's disease. I think that one is diagnosed with terminal cancer that if they find anything at all that will prolong their life and ease pain then it would be worth trying. I don't think you should leave because one person was rude to you. If you need a break then you should take it but please don't leave.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
20 Jan 10
Yes, I do need a break and thank you for your lovely response.I just offered it up for what it was worth and did not make any claims at all. Personally, I have a little tree and will make a drink from he leaves as a preventative measure when the tree gets bigger. I will ask m=about Parkinson's But this is so rare o he Island. There may be cases of it from drinking soursop but I have not heard of any.I just do not know. But perhaps,some people would prefer to have Parkinson's than have cancer? I do have doctors as friends so will ask. Many blessings for your kindness
@anniefannie (1743)
• United States
20 Jan 10
yes i have didn't say anything but some people are so rude and they think they are being smart.
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
20 Jan 10
I did hear that you were offended dear friend. He was just so condescending and arrogant. From my own country too. A real arrogant Brit!
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@jillhill (37383)
• United States
19 Jan 10
Just once.....I started a discussion and somebody put up that I shouldn't have wasted my time on something as stupid as my discussion....I did get upset....and I got even......
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
20 Jan 10
That would have upset me too. I will just chill for a while and answer some discussions and not post. Blessings and thanks
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@ANTIQUELADY (36488)
• United States
19 Jan 10
GOOD FOR U, CYNTHI. Let's see if i get my response deleted again which i did not understand. I think it's wonderful that u passed this info on & i hope it will help alot of people. I have gotten mad at a few responses i have gotten, There is an a$$ in every crowd it seems.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
19 Jan 10
I just didn't apprciate being told that I did not know what I was saying. In many countries there are herbs and plants that help people. I never said it was a CURE - I WAS JUST TELLING OF MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND I WAS NOT DISHONEST. THANKS jO.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 10
Yeah once in while I get mad.... If you need a break, take a break. I know how to get hold of you. bwa haha...
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@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
19 Jan 10
cynthiann, I am sorry for what you have gone through and let me assure you that you are alone here. People are such that they can be insensitive and dense. There will one side that will be treating us like some kind of Beverley Hillbillies and when we are conventional we will become some conspirators. Yet, I must tell you that the former will be the same lot that will be the ones shouting conspiracy when we are conventional. Let me rant a bit here, I just cannot understand why they cannot understand that this is a discussion and as such discuss openly. Most of all be decent about it. Finger pointing and name calling is the last thing we need and I am just utterly disappointed with them most of the time. I just wonder if they remember what good behavior means. Anyway, don't let them bother you and just to let you know that I have read your earlier post on this. I am still looking up and around to see if it could really help especially when I have a few friends who are stricken with cancer now. I hope that there is a new curve here and who knows we might just have another breakthrough in the cures to cancer, which I may add a much friendlier and natural alternative. Take care and have a nice day.
• United States
20 Jan 10
Hey cynthiann, will you send me a cutting off of this tree? I'd love to have one here for people I know that have cancer. I'm willing to try to..or I should say they are. I do believe that herbs and things help people...many things that the medical community scoff about do help people. Some doctors do believe, most don't.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
20 Jan 10
Moodancer I would love to send you the tree but it would not be allowed by your Agricultural Authority out there. It is a tropical tree and if you ever needed it then I would collect and dry the leaves and bark and somehow I would get it to you. Maybe it could be imported as tea. I don't know - but I do know that I would get it to you if it is humanely possible. I would have to find out more info.Might grow in heated conditions (in a large pot) inside of house as long as it gets light.
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• Singapore
20 Jan 10
cynthiann, I am still finding a lot of interesting information all over and I just cannot find yours anything discrediting, especially when you have personal experiences. Let me tell you that the other side have always been proven to be the actual Hillbillies than anything else. Try declaring the Thai Hot & Spicy Tom Yam Soup as a preventive advocate for cancer and I am sure you will see the same chain mail conspiracy or some strange looking treatment responses. Normally, I would be happy if they are truly engaging and making it a good discussion but let me say that it is just disappointing most of the time. I just do not have the answers for them. I am glad that you've shared this and brave the elements here. On the hindsight, (this is for moondancer as well) it is also a known fact that the fruit and/or the juice (pure) is beneficial to cancer prevention too. But, not proven for cures yet. Once again, thanks for the encouragement, your sharing and would encourage you to keep posting.
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@dorannmwin (36698)
• United States
21 Jan 10
Oh Cynthiann, I hate that the previous discussion that you had written has caused you so much heartache. If people would have taken the time to read the entire discussion in the true context of it, I don't think that they would have been able to in good conscious claim that you were spreading misinformation. I've never heard of sour sop but I also live in a part of the world where you never hear a lot about alternative medicine. This doesn't mean that I don't believe in it. All of that said, I hope that you don't decide to take a break because I always love your crazy antics and I would truly miss them.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
22 Jan 10
Thank you so much. I will return but just to answer a few posts - just will be away for a while.
@Hatley (164640)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Feb 13
just w ant to say I am glad I did not ;post any mean responses as thats just no my style anyway and i see I did not., hang in there now in 2013
• United States
30 Jan 13
Funny, when I checked snopes it said still being looked into... *UNDETERMINED* So, if they said it was crap before looks like something may be changing their minds... Love how some people see things on the internet (MAN MADE- MAN RUN) and claim it to be true but can hear stories of TRUTH and claim it chance or un true.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
30 Jan 13
I don't know how you found this post after so mnay years but thank hyou for responding. I still hold the info to be true and now these are being made into pills and are available on the internet for sale. I planted my own graviola (soursop) tree and will soon be able to take the leaves and a piece of the bark to make the tea. I take the guinea hen weed and make a drink from it regularly. I lost my sister to undiagnosed cancer last October. It is an awful way to die.
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@jkcokley (267)
• United States
30 Jan 10
Again, I think anything that may help a person with cancer is with a try regardless if it has been tested by science. Cures do not come by doing the same thing over and over again. cures come by trial and error. If this stuff is working for anyone out there - it is worth sharing.
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
2 Feb 10
I think so too!
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@bunnybon7 (36897)
• Holiday, Florida
26 Jan 10
I have been known to get mad at some that could have just not responded to my discussions if they were going to put me down for something. But, it seems this is some wonderful news and if they dont want to believe it then they should just leave it alone. some people think they should try and force you to think exactly like they do and they just need to get a grip. dont let it bother you friend. as a cancer survivor that worries it could come back, i am glad to hear of any hopeful help.
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@paula27661 (15899)
• Australia
22 Jan 10
I saw your previous discussion and I did not have time to respond because I am very behind with my notifications but I can appreciate the information you were attempting to share. You were not promising a miracle cure or even trying to talk people into using sour sop; you were just interested in others’ opinions and experiences. Having said that I can understand that there may be some people that either have not had a good experience with the same or some other ‘miracle’ would be cure so they may have gotten touchy. I haven’t read all your responses so I don’t know how other MyLotters responded to you and if that included rudeness there is no excuse for it. I hope you don’t take too long of a break because I would miss your discussions and I am sorry that you were hurt by this incident, don't let it get to you too much...
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
22 Jan 10
Thank you for your support - will just take a short break. Blessings
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• India
5 Feb 13
Thanks for sharing. lol it is certainly mis information, there are herbs, leaves, root, seed that can cure cancer in the initial stages, many from here are cured too, there are herbal doctors who by examining your pulse can tell about the disease one suffers..
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
5 Feb 13
This is actually a very old post but thank you for responding. I have planted =my own soursop (graviola tree) and it is doing well. I also have guinea hen weed that I make into a tea andf take several times a week. I lost my sister to cancer last October - it is a terrible disease
@Hatley (164640)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Feb 13
oh cynthann good for you this still stands and hopefully they will not delete it as it could halp so many people and maybe someday be a cure for cancer.It caught my eye adhd for some reasons they did not stop you in your tracks. I dont know if anyone else has resonded lately but its very interesting to me.