This is why I won't call myself a Republican
By Taskr36
@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
January 25, 2010 5:36pm CST
I'm pretty sure everyone here knows I typically vote republican and I oppose the vast majority of democrats in congress, especially their totalitarian behavior since obtaining a supermajority. That said, I do not support or endorse the republican party blindly. I support them when they oppose unconstitutional actions by democrats and oppose them when they support crap like the patriot act.
So what's the point of this? Now the RNC, under the direction of Michael Steele, is trying to trick voters into filling out a bogus census form so they will have their information on file. I have no problem with them just trying to get information, and sending out forms to do so, but sending a letter intended to decieve people into believing it is a census form is CRIMINAL.
Keep in mind that it is ILLEGAL to ignore and refuse to fill out a census form so they're doing this knowing that people will think they are required by law to fill it out and return it.
Note, this doesn't mean I hate every Republican and the vast majority have absolutely nothing to do with this. I do think Michael Steele, and everyone else at the RNC who knew about this and let it happen should be fired and possibly charged criminally for it.
I'm still trying to find a scanned copy of this census so if anyone can find one, please post it here.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100125/ap_on_el_ge/us_gop_census
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/82320127.html
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9 responses
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I am proud of your Taskr, pointing out something that the party that you support (more often than not), is doing something you don't approve of. I think that this is about the more ignorant thing I have ever seen, but coming for Michael Steele it is expected. I just hope that other in his party call him out on this.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Well Steele's been nothing, but a disappointment. I think just about the only thing he did right was when he said Rush Limbaugh was just an entertainer. Of course that became moot when he apologized and took it back like a coward.
What I support is the Republican platform. It's a platform that many have abandoned. I also support what the Republicans in congress are doing by refusing to support crap bills that they have had zero input on as they were written and negotiated behind closed doors to keep both the republicans, and the American people ignorant of what's happening in congress.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
28 Jan 10
The problem with congress is that people can only vote out their own reps and senators. I'll tell you right now that the vast majority of people can't even name their own senators or Reps. Congress is where most of the damage is done to our government and yet people let them skate by year after year. Congress gets a low approval rating, but most people actually like their own congressman and senators when asked. It's pathetic.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Taskr, the problem with those republicans that are voting NO for these "crap bills", is that they voted yes for the same "crap bills" when Bush proposed them. Until you get rid of the useless tools that left your platform in pieces during the Bush years, your party will never have any credibility.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Ok, here's my problem with what they are doing, "The letter makes a plea for money (...)" But, I can see why you're upset. If I were a Republican I would be upset that the "party" is just starting to make a comeback of sorts.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I couldn't care less if they ask for money so long as they are frank and open about it. Now I would NEVER send money to a political party, as I'm not so ignorant as to support every single member of any party, but I understand some people do support everyone with the appropriate letter next to their name. My issue here is that they are masquerading as the US Census in an effort to get people to not only read their crap, but give them personal information and money. Even without the money aspect, I'm disgusted by their methods of just gathering information.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Ah, but Taskr you missed my point and I should have been more specific about why the money part bothers me... The letter that was sent out seems to look as if it is "officially" from Congress (I'm going by the article as I have not actually seen the document for myself) and I don't think there is one American that would believe that Congress should ask for money with the exception of taxes.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Wow. When I first started reading this I thought it was just a rumor. But the responce from the RNC really pises me off. I am a registered Republican but that is so that I can vote in the Primary. I refuse to join the party until they get their heads out of their ases. This is low down, deceptive and frankly stupid. The Republican party could really shine right now and they are wasting their time with this crap? Most people you can just openly ask their opinion.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Same here. I'm only registered as a republican for the primaries. I agree that the GOP is missing a HUGE opportunity right now. I said in another thread that they could be writing good legislation with no earmarks to show they care about the American people. Instead, they're just focused on stopping the bad legislation by the Dems. Basically they're only doing half their job and that's not going to win them much support.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Well this is a really stupid thing for the republicans to do.
Of course, the RNC is the same bunch that offered us McCain instead of a real conservative.
The individuals behind this should be fired and prosecuted, and since Steele is the head, he should be the first to go.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Jan 10
I usualy ignore census forms anyway. I will answer the constitutionaly required questions if asked by a door knocker though.
Steele and who ever else is behind this should be charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is disgracefull, but the exact type of behaviorI have come to expect from these people. Maybe if I get a copy of it I'll turn it over to my sheriff's department as attempted fraud.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I know what you mean. I am a conservative....but I am definately NOT a republican. Why? Because of BS behavior like this. SOmeone should call them out on this.
I think it is a stupid idea anyway...most republicans don't like the idea of the census asking anymore than name and ages of anyone living in a home. That is ALL the government can legally ask you. YOu don't have to answer ALL the questions on a census as long as you tell them how many poele live in your house, name and age.
It is in the constitution.
So they can ask for all that info all they want....it does not mean they are going to get it.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Did anyone ever manage to get a hold of one? I really want to see it.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
26 Jan 10
This is very disturbing, taskr, and it does appear to be an intentional attempt to mislead people. I don't personally know of anyone who has received this "census" but I'd sure like to get my hands on one. I don't support unethical criminal activity either and this should not be swept under the rug with bs excuses.
@OpinionatedLady (5966)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I like you do not like either party. I do find more issues that I am more comfortable with on the republican side but in truth these are far and few. We as a nation need to stand up and kick both of these parties out of office. We need to insist that the media cover events that include politicians running for office that are not from either party. We need to take our nation back from these corrupt politicians.
@FRANCISCOANDLEE (750)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I myself am an Independent I was a Democrat for many years and finally seen enough, that they turned my stomach. I have gotten to were I don't want anything to do with any party. I will continue to vote for what I believe to be the lesser of the evils, because I'll be **** if I let them try to take that right away from me. What Michael Steele is pulling is unconstitutional and the public needs to be made aware. So thank you for discussing this subject. I know many were not aware. The people need to stand up together against all of these idiots that get into office and try to change things to their own personal agenda. Who knows exactly what that agenda may be but we know it's not in the peoples favor.
