the shallowest waters make the most noise?

@jb78000 (15173)
January 30, 2010 7:35am CST
do you think this is true - that the louder somebody yells something the less they actually have to say?
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• India
31 Jan 10
You can actually see it in nature itself, the shallowest streams gurgling by, making a lot of noise while the deepest rivers just silently flow by! I think its very true with human nature too…people who are burbling all the time or just making small talk have nothing profound to offer really. They listen less so they retain less within themselves, only frivolous issues and petty gossiping. Silence may not necessarily mean an introvert person. Also, I’ve seen people who are mostly at fault on a particular issue, make the most noises to hide their guilt, a totally different perspective, but just thought of adding
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@jb78000 (15173)
31 Jan 10
i agree - and i have seen your last point in action. when people become unsure or think their argument is weak they often compensate by getting louder. noise always beats quality - at least in their minds. it might also be to do with the fact that they are getting angry out of frustration.
• India
1 Feb 10
Yes exactly, they know they are at fault and then they just create a ruckus in the hope that the core issue will get diverted in all that din and they might just escape.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Jan 10
Often true, but not always. Sometimes people who feel ignored and/or disenfranchised start to act this way too, though they may have started off quiet and reasonable.
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@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
i think you are right that it can come from frustration too. it is self defeating however.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Jan 10
Not always. Some people have learned that being loud gets them the attention they want. It doesn't work in some situations though.
@ZephyrSun (7385)
• United States
30 Jan 10
I fully believe that, look at all the loud mouths of the world. One certainly doesn't have to yell to get their point across or make others listen a soft voice actually makes people listen harder.
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@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
on me at least it tends to have the opposite effect to what is intended - somebody turns up their personal volume i tune out.
@ZephyrSun (7385)
• United States
30 Jan 10
Well then lamby you'd better get a hearing aide LOL
@owlwings (39259)
• Cambridge, England
30 Jan 10
Mm-hmm
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@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
smartowls
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@Torunn (2810)
• Norway
30 Jan 10
From an acoustical point of view that would depend on whether you were above or under water, and on what kind of sea floor the water had. A hydrophone under water would have much more effect in deeper water with hard sediments than in shallow waters with soft ground near a beach. ;-) We have this one annoying politician though, when everyone else tries to argue, she's just pissed off. Usually very loudly pissed off, and most of the time for no reason at all, but then she gets to yell.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
you know a suspicious amount about how sound carries underwater. hmmm. anyway is this an important politician or just a very noisy one?
@Torunn (2810)
• Norway
30 Jan 10
Knowing what sound waves behave under water is very important. Either because you've studied acoustics, or because you're a whale, dolphin or cod. I won't tell which one though. Did you know that sub-marines have problems in the cods mating season? Noisy, noisy fish, they mess of the hydrophones. She think she's a very important politicans, and sadly, many people agree. It's one of those annoying parties that targets whatever group they think most people dislike. When I was a child, it was single mothers (no idea why), now it's all those horrible foreigners.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
that's a common target the world over - easy to blame and people can easily be stirred up against them furriners. now you say you are a dolphin or cod? really? i thought you were a seal
@Sandra1952 (6052)
• Spain
30 Jan 10
Hllo, Judith. I think you have something there. The people I respect the most are those who sit and listen to what everyone else has to say. Then they'll slip in a quiet comment that sums everything else up really neatly. If what you have to say matters, it doesn't matter about the volume. Having said that, I think if you're talking politics or religion, volume is seen as a badge of honour. I rest my case.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
so in politics and religion the aim is really to out shout the opposition rather than present compelling arguments? never noticed but now you point it out...
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• Spain
30 Jan 10
I'm just trying to work out whether you're being ironic or sarcastic here. It's probably a mixture of the two, isn't it? Great topic anyway.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
i have no idea. as you must know by now i rarely have a clue what i am burbling on about
@Hatley (164652)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Jan 10
hi blue bunny oh yes I think so just go into any bar the loudest yeller is the guy five quarters drunk who is yelling that the guy sitting next to him stinks, when the yeller is giving off so much fumes, the bartender is getting dizzy. or the poor waitress who gets yelled at my coffees cold, now the yeller here has been on her cell phone for an hour and never touched her coffee til now, but the poor waitress gets yelled at for letting the coffee get cold. go figure. now to post this and actually have it load. lol lol.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
this is why you should never go out with a good selection of socks for the mouths of incoherent yellers.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
without not with
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
30 Jan 10
Use duct tape Hatley -at the yeller and then take away her coffee.
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
30 Jan 10
When my boss yells at me he repeats himself constantly. I am yawning here because i could not yawn at him- if you get what I mean. That is what I would like to do - look bored and yawn but then he would give me the boot. That's not nice is it? :Looks around nervously
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
he doesn't sound like a very good manager. just a very loud one.
• Australia
30 Jan 10
Cynthiann, no doubt you would agree with G K Chesterton, who said "A yawn is a silent shout"
@Galena (9123)
31 Jan 10
true. they also say that still waters run deep.
@jb78000 (15173)
31 Jan 10
that was the saying i thought i was adapting. now i'm beginning to think it has been done before
@PeacefulWmn9 (10424)
• United States
30 Jan 10
Absolutely true. Sometimes, the yelling is so extreme that we cannot hear the words, as most of us automatically "tune out" whatever sounds like noise or we walk away from it. Most people that have the most to say, say it using the fewest words. That is wisdom.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
it is like thinking your awful music will sound better if you turn the volume up full. this is not true.
• Australia
30 Jan 10
"Where there is shouting, there is no true knowledge” - so said Leonardo da Vinci.
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
another good quote
@trruk1 (1031)
• United States
30 Jan 10
The validity of someone's opinion has no relation to how forcefully they express it. A lot of people are absolutely certain their version of what has happened and why is the "real truth" and therefore they are entitled to over-ride (or shout down) any dissenting view. That is why people who watch Fox News on a regular basis do not pay attention to any other source. There is also a remarkable element of fear and insecurity in those who are wrong at the top of their voice. Oh, well. I do not shout. If somebody raises the volume during a discussion, I just wait. Sooner or later, they run out of energy or patience and then it is my turn. For a lot of people, their minds operate in some kind of steel grip, where a difference of opinion is frightening. As some smart aleck once said, "The problem is not all the stuff the guy doesn't know. The problem is all the stuff he knows that isn't so."
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
make enough noise and you can't hear yourself think. in fact you won't think. this is useful if you are scared of thinking.
@pupupd (1521)
• India
30 Jan 10
I mostly shout when I have to say a lot of things and make myself winner of the argument. As when I start shouting no one has their say, everyone give up and accept what I have to say. May be some people shout more in order to hide their inability to say anything in lower tone to make it convincing, some shout in order to drag attention. A Shout has many reasons, some are well known and some are unnecessary too, That is someone who shouts when hey are drunk lol
@jb78000 (15173)
30 Jan 10
volume beats coherency any day of the week