Are Health Workers NPA or Not?

Philippines
February 15, 2010 9:58am CST
Hello there, Recently the Armed forces of the Philippines had arrested forty three health workers because they were accused of being part or member themselves of the New People's Army which is located in morong, RIzal. When they went there, they have confiscated fire arms and Propaganda posters pertaining to a political party. update news is that they are being abused. they're blind folded while soldiers touch their private parts and being a peeping tom while the workers took bath. The parents and relatives are extremely upset. even if they're members of the NPA they shouldn't be abused , they have rights too.
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• Philippines
16 Feb 10
Oh , so that is the story. I heard it over the news, that one of the girls were raped there. As for me, they have rights too. It is unfair that the AFP done it to them if this is not an allegation. So there is more women than a man in included in the health workers?is there a proof if they are really abused there? I hate when I read this kind of news, they are just giving showing us that we should not trust authorities.
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
Hello Grecy, Were not sure if this is Allegation is true or not but at least we know that we were informed of their arrest. well, they were worst news in the military like killing and abusing political activist. some are prisoners and some are killed and buried some where.
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• Philippines
17 Feb 10
Yes there are so many case of missing people and many of them are activist. They don't care if that is a woman or man, if that person is against the government , he or she will truly be killed. Is that the freedom speech and expression that we know. That is only unfair justice and nothing else.
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• Philippines
17 Feb 10
That's their idea of good governance No wonder there are so many activists here
@Danzylop (1120)
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
hello LetranKnight :=] This is an issue of another human rights violation. But an issue that needs to be proven with reliable supporting evidences. It is very easy to accuse but often very difficult to prove. The families, I suppose, are also members of the "Kilusan" (Movement). My opinion is that they are just spreading this rumors so as to withdraw attention from the public through media and make the people mad. I hate to see rallies, demonstration and protesters. Again, in speaking of human rights, an individual has his right to peaceably assembly or organize himself into a a group not contrary to the law. and the "Kilusan" can never be qualified as a peaceful group. If they were arrested then, they should have known it prior to their entrance to the movement. Let me review also, as we are interpreting the Human rights violations the AFP may have overlapped, did the New Peoples Army respected the lives of their co-members who were massacred(im sure someone has watched a TV documentary about this)? Did they even respected the rights of the businessmen who were victims of their extortion and if they didn't get what they want they will burn your properties? With all of this, do they embody their name THE NEW "PEOPLES" ARMY? If MILF is in Mindanao then NPA is in Luzon and Visayas. Both good contributors of Economic devastation that keep the government from improving human lives. Note: Everything that I entered above are purely based on my ideas and opinions. Hence, I will welcome yours. Thanks.
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
Hello danzy, Well, i guess you got a POINT there. when i created this discussion, i was merely looking at the one side of the situation, whereas they got arrested and then accused of being NPA-related group and then abused. i never got the chance to broaden the perspective in checking the other torturing side of the NPA. of course, the only thing i can remember that is not related is they kill they're own members, as i have heard it from the news. The New People's Army is a Rebel Faction, which i believed had more exprience in torturing the people or even killing and burying their own men if suspected traitors. the Kilusan group will always be vigilant in many ways. thanks a lot for your contributions and making me see the other side. but of course, it's still an issue of HUman Rights violations and the AFP should follow that since they're part of the Government and NPA isn't. expect the rebels to be brutal.
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• Philippines
17 Feb 10
Amen to this Danzy! Those rebels are so full of themselves that they tend to overlook their mistakes and blame others for the very same thing
@rsa101 (13336)
• Philippines
24 Feb 10
I think some are really from the rebels that joined in that medical mission. But I do not think that all of them belong to the movement or might just be sympathizers. I really think that they should be more transparent when dealing with them. The media took noticed already so military should be careful on how they handle their detainees.
• Philippines
24 Feb 10
Hello Rsa, that's the problem, if the military can't determine which is which then the innocent get's into trouble as well, which is not good at all. there should at least have their own agent there and monitor the situation, rather than threatening the entire group which is barbaric.
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@rsa101 (13336)
• Philippines
24 Feb 10
Well the reason behind maybe is because they captured a positive NPA there then most of them are suspect to be members as well. The thing is they captured and confiscated arms there which is a sign that there were indeed positive for having rebels in the group.
@Ladyslipper (1330)
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
I agree with you when you said that even if these people are really NPA members they still have rights and they need to be respected. I don't know why when a non- government group go to a remote area to help people they are mistaken to be NPA members. I was a Community Development student and part of our work as Development Workers is to go to remote places to help people build an organization that will help them alleviate their living. I used to be a volunteer for almost two years before I finally decided to get a normal job where I get paid. So I entered Corporate World and eventually became a Supervisor. Going back to my story about being mistaken to be an NPA member, our group (there were 6 of us and all were girls), were also once mistaken to be part of the NPA. It was during the time we were having an immersion in a farming and fishing community. The people testified that we were just students sent to the community by our school and NGO for a livelihood program. It was scary. Most scared of all was our pure Japanese groupmate who did not understand what was happening. Our school stopped sending student volunteers to that community as soldiers sometimes abuse students because they are mistaken as NPA. Before the situation gets worse our College finally decided not to have any immersion anymore in that town. NPAs thrive in that area and also soldiers.
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
Lady Slipper, Wow, that is a lot more scary, not only you were all GIRLS but also you have japanese Volunteers too, imagine what would have happened if the People didn't testify and got you all arrested. Probably there should be coordination with the military or any government agency for that matter the next time a school sends some community workers. can you site an abuse done to one of your students in your school? this story is interesting.
• Philippines
21 Feb 10
There were two students from our College who were taken by the military for interrogation. They were assigned in Quezon for community immersion. Then, there were two other stuents who are missing until now. The military are saying that those students are missing because they eventually joined NPA but community people are saying that they were taken by Military men. I am not sure which of the story is true. However, I met those two students so I know them. They are both girls. But then I don't really know them well. All I know is that they have the same course as mine and that's the reason I know them. They were my classmates in one of my classes. There is a coordination with the government agency whenever our school sends out students. That's actually one of the problems our school is facing as government officials sometimes politicize our community projects and programs by making it appear as if they are part of it. The problem that we face here is that we don't know who in the community are NPAs, NPA supporters and just regular civilians. They sometimes say that we are NPA supporters as they see us interacting with people tagged as NPA supporters or in the watchlist since they are belived to be NPAs. Whenever we are in the community we get to meet a lot of people and it's not part of our protocol to ask these people if they are NPA or NPA supporters.
• Philippines
15 Feb 10
I really don't know whether they are real health workers or not. But regardless of that, you are right when you say that they have their rights too. And it really is not right when some of them are abused or tortured. I mean, they could just take them in custody and ask some questions. But to abuse them? that is just not right. Specially for those women. Two thumbs down for the army. Did they think that this will not get to the media? I mean, there were 43 of them! Of course somebody would report it.. Tsk.tsk.tsk.
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
Hello Ingkingderders, the idea of these women eing harrassed reminds me a lot of the martial law of marcos. where a lot of women activist were groped,raped simultanously by soldiers as part of the abuse. i don't know, they should have been monitoring, and securing the arrested people and not abusing them. i believe that some of the soldiers who are responsible raping activist are also there in that facility.
• Philippines
17 Feb 10
I have an uncle who is a part of the military. I would like to believe that they are really clean, but I know that they are not, and even my uncle knows that. I just wish that they won't abuse their power and just serve the nation like they promised when they entered the military.
@johndur (3049)
• Pasig, Philippines
15 Feb 10
well we have to know first if these things are true.because sometimes relatives of the captured makes stories to protect their relatives and to get sympathy from the media.regarding the abuse from the authorities they should also be investigated if the report is true.then somebody should be penalized if proven true.i think military should make sure first if the one's they captured are really rebels or not.if they are health workers then how can they be members of rebel group?its for us to watch and see how things are going to end.
@iceydon (342)
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
NPA or not those health workers have made themselves available for the service of the people. Their medical missions alleviated peoples sufferings that the government cannot directly address. The AFP should have put in their battle SOP the conduct of any humanitarian services reachable by those grassroots in the community which are very prone to any recruitment of the NPA. The abusive nature of the military is the reason why there are still young minds who propagate the ideas of CPP-NPA. They are just capable of arresting those women and abusing them. Lets say they have strong evidences linking those health workers to NPA or they really are members military's mandate is not to abuse. They have to respect human rights as protector of the people and country.
• Philippines
16 Feb 10
Hello Iceydon, That is so true, i remember sis jaiho here mentioned that they were having a medical mission in a province which was actually permitted but some how they were being blocked by government officials saying they shouldn't do medical missions. thanks to the protest of the people, they were able to continue. i believe the AFP should have more seminars regarding human rights and proper detaining a suspected rebel. unless there is a video, or photos that can prove it. otherwise, it's all speculation.