So someone can really be prosecuted over facebook...:)

Philippines
February 26, 2010 9:58pm CST
I saw the news while checking my yahoo mail awhile ago. It is about a student in Indonesia who found guilty of "insulting" his music mentor on Facebook. But it was not the only case of student being sentenced for jail-time involving Facebook in the said country. The news says, "The country is also considering proposals to block Internet sites that are deemed to violate "public decency" and privacy." Many people in Indonesia opposed the said plan of blocking FB and some even joined a group contesting the said internet restriction. You may check the news in here: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100226/ttc-indonesia-court-internet-facebook-0de2eff.html So, I just wonder about your opinion on the said matter. Is it right to send a student or any person to jail because of hurtful or insulting comments on his/her facebook wall? What is your view about it?
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• United States
27 Feb 10
There is going to come a day when internet laws will be possible, involving fines and possible jail time for breaking these 'laws'. But yet, as a people who know right from wrong, and can judge independently without being told to, we do know how to handle and promote ourselves online and avoid hurting anyone or taking offense to it. Problem is, too many people are not like that, and a majority of it seem to be those who are younger and those who are first time comers to the internet. For example, I met this young woman in her twenties, and she is a fan of Naruto. But she gets upset and angry if you tell her you don't care nor like the show. Worse yet, she insults the things you may like by calling it dumb. And though she has a mental condition, verified by a friend of mine who knows her in real life, her attitude can still be a bother to others. I've also heard about the girl on MySpace who was taken advantage of like that. It is a shame when young people like are mislead with lives cut so short.
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• Philippines
28 Feb 10
hi Firestorm0122, Yes, you are definitely right on that. Time will come that cyber crime will be well-monitored by proper authorities and implementation of possible jail time and other kind punishment or fine will soon be happened. yeah. I know...that's funny and weird. Strangers we meet on the net might be someone whose a total freak and creepy. I'm sad about the myspace incident as well. Hope things like that won't happen anymore. Thanks for your awesome input!
@spalladino (17927)
• United States
27 Feb 10
No, I don't believe that anyone should go to jail for writing something about someone on facebook but, in the U.S., you can be sued for damages if you do and it's a lie. It's against the law to publish something negative about another person or company that you claim to be factual when you know it's not. It's called libel, among other things.
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
hi spalladino, Very true. Like newspapers and articles, if these two create misleading and fictional information about an individual or an entity they can face legal obligation. "Libel" is one of the most common case I guess. I was just thinking... if a person is writing things he feel on FB ~ that is true about a certain person who for example mistreated or misjudged him~ do you think is it just okay? LOL. Isn't it crazy now to put your daily activity and feelings on social sites? hihi! Thanks for sharing.
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@cherrc (666)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
it depends if it is covered by their laws. in some countries, no laws have been implemented yet pertaining to the internet. since people nowadays tend to use internet as a means of communication and information, other countries were prompted to enact such law. personally, the carelessness of the student in posting such comment against his professor should not be a ground for sending him to prison. they must have at least dealt with the parents or imposed some disciplinary action like community service that doesn't involve imprisonment. or a public apology may do for causing damage to teh said professor. :)
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• Philippines
27 Feb 10
hi cherrc, exactly. But at the same time we still need to respect their law. Wonder why they suspend the 6 months imprisonment of the student maybe because they have realized that such penalty is unnecessary. Thanks for your smart input.
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@cherrc (666)
• Philippines
1 Mar 10
basically, libelous act can be read in the newspaper but because of progressiveness, it now includes other medium like the internet. it must be under deliberation as to whether or not to pursue with that type of punishment taking into consideration that such student is a minor. :)
@yresh12 (3222)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
That's a very sad thing. I think we have the privilege to express how we feel. There is certain limitation for us on what we say or do. It did insult that teacher but facebook is an online community you can say what you want. The student doesn't have to go to jail. That student just needs to understand that some things are worth not saying.
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• Philippines
27 Feb 10
hi yresh12, Yeah, it is sad that we can't just voice out anything we say because for a lot of reason. The court suspended the jail sentence of the student. I guess they still reviewing their decision which I think is the right thing to do for now.
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@yresh12 (3222)
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
That's nice to hear and I'm hoping that It would turn out to be a good one.
• Malaysia
27 Feb 10
Its not just facebook but over the internet. If it is about crime and violence and illegal activities, you are breaking the law. You should be prosecuted because its about security and crime. Teaching people make destructive material is dangerous and police can and should bring these people to court. Children are also using the internet and Facebook, they should be prevented from seeing these "immoral" activities. Not all activities are acceptable to some countries. Some find eating rats or worms disgusting but National Geographic showed some countries doing these. Its always " The moaral of the story is ....." , if you know what I mean.
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• Philippines
28 Feb 10
hi kl_blueknight, Yeah you got it right. Internet crime is happening in every corner of the world. It can be happening now, right in this very moment. It is so sad seeing young ones got involved in the situation and some would dare to take their lives. I wish the government can do something about but at the same time I hope that all is fair about it and the implementation of whatever kind of restriction that any country must do should also be fair and judge. Thanks for your wonderful views!
@Cutie18f (9564)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
There should be due process. The account owner can always cancel his or her account if it leads to that and it is going to be very hard to establish proof. However, if the other party has already copied the info as proof,and there is reason to file a lawsuit, then so be it, provided that the other person is given fair trial and not just locked up in jail without undergoing due process.
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• Philippines
27 Feb 10
hi cutie! right! fair trial should always impose appropriate punishment.
@ybong007 (6659)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
It's really funny. But i guess, there are enough evidence you can find if you post it somewhere in your Facebook accounts. But i think getting jailed because of an insult is too much. But then again saying something against somebody with malice should not be tolerated.
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@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
27 Feb 10
daintykane. Say what you like, but every country will just have their own laws and how they do things. I think I have seen and heard enough about freedom of speech and if I might add here that social networking site is in the first place not for us to rant or ramble or grumble or most of all, speak irresponsibly especially flouting the law and then challenging it. Tsk! Tsk! I just cannot understand what is it with these undergrads who is regarded as the nation's future - honestly, what is this undergrad doing, insulting a celebrity instead of getting himself graduated. He may think he is justified there, but think again - is it his job, in the first place? Isn't it the job for the tabloids to write about celebrities misdemeanors? So, his music mentor is a corrupted scoundrel, isn't it a better good to report him to the country's anti-corruption bureau then write insinuating insults in his Facebook account? Say what you like or don't like - but look before you leap! It is a fact that Asian culture is conservative and the legal system is a reflection of it. Harsh as it may seem but this is a case whereby the "if other countries can do it, why can't mine" rule does not apply. As an intellect, he should be fully aware of the consequences and perhaps practice his antics within his own confines. On the hindsight, let me say this - place yourself in that music mentor's shoes and that the remarks on your protege's facebook account is nothing but a smearing campaign. Then, please ask yourself how will you feel? Wouldn't you appreciate the fact that the law is on your side here?
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
"say what I like?" LOL. what do you mean by that? what have I done? Then, please ask yourself how will you feel? Wouldn't you appreciate the fact that the law is on your side here?" LOL. (wait mah phone rings...holla?) Okay. Anyways, I'm not questioning the fact that the said country are crazy to put their citizen to jail. If you have run to some of my responses I'm actually on midst of analyzing the matter and gathering data on what others think of the situation. Got even shocked about severe cases of cyber war. I'm just overwhelmed by the fact that 6 months of jail time is necessary on such incident. I can sense your stand over the matter and I applaud you for that. I even want some of your ideas. Or may be you just have a strong point about the matter that is why you sounded like you are mad or something. Or it was just me who haven't had my dinner? (I better grab some donuts on the fridge) LOL. Thanks for your intelligent views.
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• Philippines
27 Feb 10
LOL.
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@neildc (17229)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
28 Feb 10
it could be a libel suit because internet is considered medium of publication. so whenever insulting words could be used as evidence. but i am not for the restriction of the site or any site. the only thing we can do to avoid such prosecution is to secure our profile or account.
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
hi neildc, Yup. We all should secure our profile I guess. I don't know with some but I still prefer to have my FB and friendster to be on private mode. LOL.
@rosegardens (3044)
• United States
27 Feb 10
If parents were busy being parents, I don't believe any country would have to make laws against facebook or myspace or mylot or whatever. What the child did was rude and brash and gives me the opinion the child was raised without manners. This particular story seems so trivial, and it appears the teacher is acting a bit childish by bringing up charges against the boy. Then, to bring charges up against someone for writing something negative seems a bit odd to me, unless of course it is threatening in nature and could put someone's safety in danger.
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
I think the same way. And the fact the mom let it happened and even joined her child to ruined that poor teen's emotion ~ it was just so mean and very sad to think that things like that really happened in real life. Yeah, as far as I know we should always have the freedom to write anything we wanna say but it must not be threatening in nature as you say and can't be libelous. Thanks for your smart views about the matter.
• India
27 Feb 10
To express my view about any thing is my right. There should not be any such law which violate this right.
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
yeah! freedom of speech it is and it should always be that way. But you know that there are some you do crazy-weird things on the net and some kids can actually see it or even try doing it. Libelous statement bombarding other people on social sites is something that government should study. It is just crazy to pick-up someone and send them to jail. Haha! I think all internet user wants to have fair and just law when it comes to issues like this. Thanks for the input.