You Can Believe In God But Not The Big Bang Theory

@gewcew23 (8011)
United States
March 6, 2010 12:54pm CST
I just wanted to start this post out by saying I use to be one of those that believe that there was a God but not the Big Bang impossible. Now I am not a scientist by any stretch of the imagination so if I mess up some of the Big Bang Theory then excuse me. If a theist was to ask a science base person how the world came to exist, the science based person would answer by saying that billions of years ago an explosion happen(I know that it is more scientific than that but work with me) and that started the ball rolling. The theist would counter by asking where did the material come from that produced the explosion that started everything. The science based person would be honest enough to say that no one has figured that part out yet. The theist instantly springs on this by claiming that God created everything, so case closed. Hopefully the science based person would respond by asking where did this God come from. The theist would respond God is timeless, God did not need to be created. This is where I want to jump in the argument against scientific explanation is that there is no proof of a beginning, yet the answer to the where did God come from is God always existed. Think about that the universe needed to be created but God did not. God always existed but the material to create the universe could not.
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@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Mar 10
This is something Eintsein struggled with for a very long time, some say it eventually drove him mad. He could not reconcile a dynamic universe with his belief in a static god. I for one don't see the confict between the two. Why could not an all powerfull diety use the forces of nature to create? Could not atoms ahve been his building blocks and the forces of the univrse as his mechanism for putting it together? Could evolution not be his creation process? Could not the "big bang have been his bringing the universe in to existence?
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@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I have no problem with a God induced big bang, my problem is with the existence of God.
@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Mar 10
My only issue with "god" is not his (or her) existence....it is the nature of his (or her) existence. Who or what is "god"? Could god simply be the four known forces of the universe? Is there some intelligence to it? Is there design? This reminds me of a lot of the discusions i have on the "supernatural". Supernatural is what we call something we don't yet have a perfectly boring, earthly explanation for.
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@urbandekay (18312)
6 Mar 10
"Why could not an all powerfull diety use the forces of nature to create? Could not atoms ahve been his building blocks and the forces of the univrse as his mechanism for putting it together? Could evolution not be his creation process? Could not the "big bang have been his bringing the universe in to existence?" This is very much how I see it all the best urban
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• India
7 Mar 10
Can you tell me please where we can see the god,I am not kidding you just asking
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@clipsal (160)
• Malaysia
7 Mar 10
if we know where is God, then it absolutely is not God. God must be something very different from anything in this world. if we can point out accurately where is God, then what is the different between God and the rest of the world? that is why, if we can tell where is God, then it absolutely is not God.
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@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
7 Mar 10
I do not know where we can see the god, and I never asked about being able to see the god.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I've thought about this a lot over the years. It boggles my mind to try to imagine nothingness and also to try to figure out how God came into existence. My poor brain can't grasp the concept. Have you ever thought that the universe came first and God was created out of energy coming together and eventually achieved sentience? Then He decided to create a different kind of life--probably lots of different kinds of life scattered all over the universe. That's one of my theories. Then again, we may all be part of someone's dream or nothing but a molecule circulating in someone's body.
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• United States
6 Mar 10
Why do you insist on seeing God and the Universe as separate things?
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
7 Mar 10
I don't. That's just one of the scenarios that my mind can envision. It's also the easiest to work with when one is thinking of the creation of the universe.
@dark_joev (3043)
• United States
7 Mar 10
I have droped out of a lot of this research stuff in the last few years but the scientific community with the backing of Hawkins and several other physicist have come up with that they call "The Mother of all theories" AKA M-Theory which explains how the great expansion ("Big Bang") has come about. There is also a theory that is gaining some support called "Intelligent Design Theory" which is a scientist version of the creation story. The biggest problem with the creation theory is that only one source has it and that is religion ie books that are based on some historical truth so that Bible doesn't count as evidence of god due to who wrote it. M-theory in a nut shell. there are 11 dimensions to our world. Okay so there is more than 4D which is what has normally been accepted as the amount of dimensions in our universe the reason for there being 11 is to explain why/how gravity is the weakest of the forces in the Universe. How matter was created. In the 11 dimension there are cell like structures that hit against each other and what happened is for what ever reason two hit and the wall of energy that kept them separate broke causing the two "cells" to become one That caused matter to be created and our universe to be born the first atoms where created as gas and soon gravity started to cause said gas to form into stars and then planets and several billions years later you get earth and humans and life. This is proven/supported by the fact that galaxies are all moving away from as center point which is what scientist use to disprove creation. Oh and no certain things in science is random but not every thing. So the planting as corn seed in the dirt and it becoming a apple seed wouldn't happen due to biology so before you go about putting that sort of argument up please make sure it works with what science is actually saying. That is at least my understanding of it.
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@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
7 Mar 10
Wow that is some awesome stuff to think about. Thanks for posting this.
@urbandekay (18312)
6 Mar 10
Well, not quite as straight forward as you suppose. I think you should read Hawkins on Black hole radiation. all the best urban
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@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
6 Mar 10
Well as I said I am not a scientist, I am trying my best though. Though I will read the book.
@umit_umit (1986)
• India
7 Mar 10
yeah,its some what true also,its great mystery,some bang need to be,for the creation,its like this can, be the way of Power to create, through Big Bang,well then mind thinks beyond,all the imaginations,who created GOD,may be this is the answer?its never ending quest?the power of mind which holds all the answer?what do you say?how we can read our mind mystery?
• India
7 Mar 10
Well i think the existence of god can be proved by the Bing Bang theory. What we have in our hindu scriptures is a SHIV PURANA... It say that in the begening there was just ENERGY (not god but just energy).. This energy was so strong and condensed (The ball of the big bang) that it started taking a physical form. Well this is the point where our mythology starts.. They say that SHIVA was created and then he with his accompalice Parvati (personification of energy) create the whole universe. Its just that these thing s didnt explain the bg bang but the creation of universe and it was so close the explanation of the big bang....
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@p3ks626 (6550)
• Philippines
7 Mar 10
I am a Christian and I personally dont believe every explanation that science have about everything. I majored in Biology when I was in college and we discussed about these theory. It actually makes sense, if you are going to relate it to the creation of the world in the bible. God said that there was matter unorganized and He created the world and the universe out of this matter. The Big bang theory explains that some anions and cations combined to form elements. These elements are Carbon, Oxygen, and Hydrogen, and other kinds of elements. If we look deeper into a structure of an organism or a nonliving organism, we will always find C, O and H. This is just an analysis I made and its actually not proven by science or God but if you come to think about it, it could be that the matter unorganized are these elements that God wants to create into something more detailed and good. Science cant explain everything but God can. I just think that in some aspects they go hand in hand in trying to explain something, and answering questions people ask.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
7 Mar 10
I love science. I am a very curious person. I am also a person of faith. The more I learn about physics...the more my faith increases. There are some thought provoking responses here...but in the end gewcew...your faith or lack of it, is what you will have to contend with.
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