Who knew that Obamacare would be run by the Post Master General?

United States
March 16, 2010 7:10pm CST
At an anti-health care rally today, one of the people interviewed said: "I don't want the same people that run the post office running my health care." I do find it funny that some people out there say that the government can't run anything good. But, say something bad about our GOVERNMENT RUN military, and see what happens to you. Can anyone here tell me who is out there saying that the Post Master General will run Obamacare? http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/16/health.care.protests/index.html?hpt=T2
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• United States
17 Mar 10
LOL. That one is funny. That person could have used better examples. Like look at Social Security. Or Medicaid, medicare, fannie mae, freddie mac....all government programs...all mismanaged...all just about run into the ground by our elected officials. As for our military. I think you can be critical of how the government runs the military or what they do with it..WITHOUT being critical of our actual soliders. I support our troops. But I don't agree with the Iraq war at all. I support our troops but I don't agree with "don't ask, don't tell".
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• United States
17 Mar 10
LIL, as you recall Social Security, medicare, and medicaid all ran surpluses when Clinton left office. I am sure we all remember the Social Security "Lock Box", Right??? I agree with you about the military, but not many other will. I remember in 2002 telling people about this war in Iraq, and I thought my first name was UNAMERICAN. We were told by right wing hate radio that you couldn't support our troops and NOT support the war in Iraq. I do find it funny how NOW you can support our troops, but not the orders they are being given. Funny how you change the party in power, and the hate mongering rules change.
• United States
17 Mar 10
IT should have been lock boxed. Then it would not have these problems now would it. As for the whole "unamerican" thing...that as BS. It was BS at the time. Bush used it to try and shut up anyone who spoke out against him after 9/11...not that it stopped many people. They can call me what ever they want (either side). I can and will always speak my mind. I don't care who is in office.
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• United States
17 Mar 10
I had to laugh when I hear Rove saying that they didn't go after those that attacked Bush's Iraq war BS more. I don't know how much more they could have done, they had all of their supports doing that for them.
@irisheyes (4375)
• United States
18 Mar 10
I don't think that the Post Office is poorly run at all. In fact, it's pretty well run. Doesn't take tax payer money and is self sufficient. It's cheaper and better than private sector competition. In spite of recent problems (caused in large part by the cost of health care premiums), the post office is an example of a government agency that works. I send over 1,000 packages per year. (I sell books)and I can vouch for the fact that the USPS is way better than UPS. Maybe, somebody should think about running healthcare the way the post office is run. Just look how much can be saved on executive salaries alone. The Postmaster General's salary & benefit package is approximately $850,000 per annum. It's a lot of money but nowhere near the 10.9 million made by the head of Fed Ex. How many healthcare exec's make millions per year? I am definitely now thinking that someone along the lines of the Post Master General should be running healthcare. It doesn't seem like a bad idea to me at all.
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• United States
19 Mar 10
What people don't understand is that NO ONE can run the post office and make a profit. The CEO of Fed EX was on CNBC the other day saying that it would destroy his company if they closed the post office. He said that they do something that no private corporation wants to do, or really could do efficiently.
@sierras236 (2740)
• United States
17 Mar 10
That's because that is the one thing the government is actually okay doing, since it is actually one of the first things put in the US Constitution. They have had over 200 years of practice. The military needs a lot of money to operate and the government has always been good at spending money. The government itself doesn't actually run the military. The President gives the orders as Commander in Chief. The orders go through the Military commanders of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and down the chain. The chain of command is very clear. Unlike so many of the other programs run by the government, including this health care plan. You want to know why people get so defensive about the military, it is because their sons and daughters are the ones who are defending the country. An insult against the military is basically an insult against their kids. These kids volunteered to serve and they deserve respect. However, and this is a big one, the health care for the military is bad. Just look at the care given to military veterans. It isn't good. Furthermore, the government also runs health care for the Indians on the reservation. That's even worse than the care for veterans. See that is the thing, we already know how the government runs health care. Did you know that Medicaid denies claims than private insurance does? The problem with the Post Office is there is so much Congressional oversight that the Post Master General can't do what is needed to become a competitive business.
• United States
17 Mar 10
So Sierras you are telling us that Barack Obama is going to run health care himself? Now that is funny!! " You want to know why people get so defensive about the military, it is because their sons and daughters are the ones who are defending the country. An insult against the military is basically an insult against their kids. These kids volunteered to serve and they deserve respect." Here is the problem with attacking any criticism, which happens often in the military. For decades we have been funding military projects that the military doesn't work or need. There is a very famous story about a Artillery piece that Donald Rumsfeldt didn't need, and didn't want. The head of the arm (a former Enron trader, and now employee of the defense contractor that made this piece) tried to go above his head and contacted the representatives from the states that his was being built. The Bush administration was shocked at the back lash that they received by cutting billions of dollars in a project that never should have happened in the first place. If Rumsfeldt wouldn't have attacked this project we would have a multi billion dollar paper weight. "However, and this is a big one, the health care for the military is bad. Just look at the care given to military veterans. It isn't good. Furthermore, the government also runs health care for the Indians on the reservation. That's even worse than the care for veterans. See that is the thing, we already know how the government runs health care. Did you know that Medicaid denies claims than private insurance does?" I can show you thousands of people that are happy with their MEDICARE, a government run health care program. And, if you don't believe me why don't you call your representative tomorrow and tell that person you want them to end medicare NOW!!!! When they get done laughing at you I am sure they will explain to you that old people vote. Did you know that doctors are now specializing in Medicare and Medicade patients because of the amount of money they make. It sounds like they need to deny more claims. "The problem with the Post Office is there is so much Congressional oversight that the Post Master General can't do what is needed to become a competitive business." So why do some of the conservatives want to put health care on his shoulders too?
• United States
17 Mar 10
I said Medicaid not Medicare. But I am certain you will find lots of people who aren't happy with what is going to happen to Medicare either considering one of the most popular programs is slated to be slashed. Which is why those politicians who vote for it or are considering voting for it are in trouble in upcoming elections. Really, one of the fixes to the Medicare is actually quite simple, get rid of the federal mandate. That's it. If people are retiring and have private insurance through their work, why not let them keep it, instead of making Medicare the primary medical provider? Make it optional. The whole reason health care is placed on the President's shoulders is because he put it there. He wasn't involved in writing the bill but he made over 50 speeches on it and is now wasting taxpayer money traveling to all those cities to campaign for "endangered" Senators. Hard to argue with the President himself who is willing to take on the full responsibility for health care.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
17 Mar 10
thegreatdebater A good response, but you forgot to mention that Government ruin Health (Plans now in effect) have a much higher fraud rate than private insurance. The other problem I see with Government running the health care is that congress will keep their fingers in program. We almost had a law passed that said every school child would receive 18 hours of course work in Lyme's disease, because one of our State Senators contracted the disease. To quote a retired State Senator when asked how a law was in acted replied "It is a headline today and a law tomorrow and for the next 20 years we keep trying to fix it." Another legislator responded to a similar question at another meeting "Something that worked for my wife's hairdresser's cousin's son is then made into a law for everyone"
• United States
17 Mar 10
I'm not sure who is saying the Post Master General has anything to do with healthcare. But I would like to know why politicians do not listen to the people who voted them in. The public has overwhelmingly said "NO" to what they are trying to ram through the system. But they continue to think they know what's best for us whether we want it or not.
• United States
17 Mar 10
If you read the link at the bottom you would see that this was a comment made by a person at one of these rallies. Politicians do listen to the people that put them in office, the problem is that isn't you and me. The people that put them in office are the people that donate large amounts of money to their campaigns. And, now the supreme court has said that even more people can buy a representative, so the voters have moved from number 2 on the list to a distant 3. By the way, the public is not "overwhelmingly" saying NO to this plan. If you actually look at the polls and look at the questions being ask you will see why so many of these "polls" are coming back with the numbers so high. There was a poll asking people if they like the stimulus plan, and the vast majority say NO. But, when you picked up projects that stimulus money was used on, and ask them if they thought that was money well spent the vast majority said YES. It is all about the way that you put the question.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
17 Mar 10
I don't think the Post Master will be running the Health Care program. Rather it is a comparison. The Post Office has hundred of Post Offices in communities that serve only a few people and the service could be combined with a neighboring community and still provide the same service. Where I live we have three separate Postal Zones with in a 20 mile circle. One serves a community of about 100 people and is 5 miles south of a larger PO while the other is 10 miles north and serves about 150 people. They survive the cuts because the Congressman is Chair of a powerful committee. With the exception of the Military almost everything the federal government gets involved with turns to failure. The Federal Government started funding education in the 1960's and under President Carter we got the Dept. of Education and test scores, graduation rates and literacy rates have gone down. You have the Dept of Agriculture that is using an 1930 plan to subsidize dairy farmers. Federal Marketing Orders (the amount the government pays dairy farmers for their milk is based on the distance from Eau Claire, Wisconsin. The farther away for Eau Claire the more money you get) pay California farmers more than Midwestern farmers. Do we want people with thinking like this running our Health Care. people who are more concerned with pleasing Congress than helping the consumer?
• United States
17 Mar 10
Bob, you are 1000% correct that isn't a Postal issue, that is a Congressman issue. For all of the republicans out there yelling about spending, call your representatives and tell them to stop sticking their hands out!!!! It makes we laugh to hear of people from Alaska complaining about spending. Their state received over $2 for every dollar they sent to Washington. The rest of us should be made at the representatives from Alaska instead of the government. If they didn't ask for the money, we wouldn't have given it to them. I agree that there is a lot of waste in our government, and it needs to be looked at (by someone besides the people in the system) and cleaned up. I do find it funny that you bring up the Dept. of Ag. seeing how Ron Paul was upset about a loan that the dept gave to Saddam Hussien in the late 80's (before we gave him permission to invade Kuwait, and then attacked because he did) per Bush Sr. that had nothing at all to do with the dept. So you can see that some of these departments are used as slush funds for other purposes. Bob, the problem right now is we have people who are more worried about pleasing a CEO, and making numbers work, then helping AMERICANS. I don't want these people running my health care either. So now what do we do?